Re: [myhdl-list] Commercial support / training classes

[Christopher L. <loz...@fr...>]

Looks great.

This is particularly useful for beginners, .... It is particularly 
useful if you want to move your design between Verilog and VHDL.

redundant, how about especially convenient the second time.

On 4/4/11 7:59 PM, Christopher Felton wrote:
> I uploaded a new version 3 poster,
> http://www.myhdl.org/doku.php/users:cfelton:fpgacamp:fpga_camp.  I added
> credit to Jan Decaluwe for information / media used from the
> www.myhdl.org site.  I also used Thomas Traber's plots from the projects
> space.
>
> Thomas would you like credit mention on the poster as well?  The rest of
> the plots were mine.
>
> .chris
>
> On 4/4/11 4:30 AM, Jan Decaluwe wrote:
>> On 04/02/2011 09:01 PM, Christopher Lozinski wrote:
>>>> As for training, the biggest issue is probably that
>>>> there is no ready-to-use  material yet.
>>> I totally agree.  Chris Felton has a hardware project that generates a
>>> sound that we could
>>> use as the basis for the project.   I think a number of us could try to
>>> duplicate it, edit up the training
>>> materials in some shared environment, like Google Docs, and before you
>>> know it we would have a
>>> training class.
>>>
>>>> And before that,
>>>> the first issue is probably to determine what public we
>>>> would be targetting and what kind of prelimary knowledge
>>>> we should/can assume.
>>> I think we should target the mass market of python developers who want
>>> to tinker with FPGA's.
>>> People like me.  For us, meaning experienced python developers, it is
>>> obvious this is the way to go.  Trying to sell a hardware engineer on
>>> dynamic binding is going against the flow.
>> Ok, agreed.
>>
>>> Chris Felton recommends that we do a distributed class.  We would like
>>> you Jan to do a general presentation on the software and theory, and
>>> then dive into hands on application. I think we should be done in a
>>> day.  I think the Silicon Valley standard is do it on a weekend.
>>> Better yet, you might want to do a video presentation one Saturday,
>>> people can read the web site during the week, and then come back the
>>> following Saturday for a class room class, where the "experts" look over
>>> your shoulder to help you.
>>>
>>> Next question can we use the content from the website for the flyers?
>>> Since the back side of the flyer will sell the class, this is commercial
>>> use, and needs your approval.
>> I notice that the content licensing on the website is confusing -
>> my idea was  to use the GNU free documentation license but the
>> create commons license is still there, apprarenlty I forgot to
>> remove it from the wiki template.
>>
>> I have not yet studied the details of these licenses.
>>
>> Note that the wiki content is contributed by several people.
>> We probably should discuss the license we should use, so that
>> everyone knows what he/she gives way. I think I would be in favour of
>> license that requires honouring copyright notices (refering to the
>> myhdl.org contributors) and that lets one use the content
>> for any type of use. For the texts that I have written, you
>> can use it along those lines.
>>
>>> And would you be willing to introduce the class?  How many hours of
>>> presentation would you like to do?
>> If someone drives the development of a class in a shared
>> environment, I'm prepared to review and offer suggestions.
>> After the material is ready, we can see for what part
>> my involvement could be useful, and I certainly would
>> be willing to contribute.
>>
>> My availability until April 24 is very limited though (milestone)
>> and it will be on best effort basis.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>
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