Re: [myhdl-list] Conference Plans: Perspective, Flyer, Sign, Classroom classes, Python Classes, Success Stories, Hardware Demo

[Kevin S. <sta...@gm...>]

Awesome, thanks. 



On Apr 3, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Christopher Felton <chr...@gm...> wrote:

> Gtkwave analog plot of fixed-point value.
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> On Apr 3, 2011 1:29 PM, "Kevin Stanton" <sta...@gm...> wrote:
> > That poster looks great!
> > 
> > I'm curious what waveform viewer is being shown in the middle in black and white? Is it gtkwave? I wasn't aware that it would allow plotting of an analog waveform (or is it an analog plot of a fixedpoint signal?)
> > 
> > 
> > On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Christopher Felton <chr...@gm...> wrote:
> > 
> >> I was probably the last person in the world that should have attempt to generate a poster, but I did. If you think it is usable feel free to use it.
> >> 
> >> If anyone has suggestions I can try and incorporate them or send the source. We could create a wiki page for camp prep :)
> >> 
> >> Chris Felton
> >> 
> >> On 4/1/11 11:07 AM, Christopher Lozinski wrote:
> >>> I have been reading the myhdl.org website. It is superbly done.
> >>> Very carefully written. Looks great. It is not even his native
> >>> language, but I could not tell. It makes me expect the software will be
> >>> as carefully done. It looks like a labor of love.
> >>> 
> >>> My perspective on this is that it is an obvious way to rapidly
> >>> design and thoroughly test new hardware designs. But somehow the rest of
> >>> the world does not see it this way. It needs some marketing push.
> >>> 
> >>> I think the most important thing for the trade show is the flyer.
> >>> Let everyone get a page of material to take home, they can read it
> >>> later, download the software, and read the website. There is great
> >>> content on
> >>> http://myhdl.org/doku.php/start
> >>> 
> >>> and
> >>> http://myhdl.org/doku.php/why
> >>> 
> >>> The next most important thing is a sign. I think it is easy to print up
> >>> a big black and white sign across multiple sheets of paper
> >>> 
> >>> MyHDL = Python -> FPGA
> >>> 
> >>> Then I can scotch tape them together, and put them up on the wall.
> >>> 
> >>> But it is always good to make money off things. It means it is
> >>> alive. What do people need to get started. Well the best thing would
> >>> be a class. Go to the show, get a flyer, go home read it look at the
> >>> web site, go sign up for a class. I read that some of these design
> >>> tools cost $100,000 for 1 seat for a year. Amazing. Surely they could
> >>> spring $1,000 for a class. Does anyone want to teach a class in this
> >>> stuff. We could say 5 student minimum.
> >>> 
> >>> As for python classes, I am glad to see there is now a data
> >>> structure class. That is a step in the right direction. There was
> >>> recently a discussion on floating point classes. The hardware engineers
> >>> said it is too inefficient, just define the range for your application.
> >>> The software engineers like myself, say just give us the floating point
> >>> classes. I do not know the ranges. Some of the FPGA devices have
> >>> floating point multipliers. How do I talk to them? By writing my own
> >>> class. Ridiculous. Give me the class please.
> >>> 
> >>> A rich class library is a sign of a mature python library. They
> >>> talk about ip cores in this industry. Yes I would like python designs
> >>> for ethernet interface, usb interface, etc. And certainly for floating
> >>> point, and for a whole bunch of other stuff.
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you for the offer of the hardware demo. I have not sent
> >>> Christopher Felton my mailing address. I think that demo targets the
> >>> wrong market. It uses a FPGA to generate some sounds. I think it
> >>> targets the hobbyist market. The money is in the major corporations.
> >>> What they want to do is minimize their risk. They want to see large
> >>> complex designs that have been produced with this tool suite. They want
> >>> us to argue that python allows for complex test suites, further reducing
> >>> their risks.
> >>> 
> >>> So does anyone have some complex designs, preferably that went to
> >>> silicon that we can show and simulate? Is anyone interested in offering
> >>> a MyHDL class?
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> <myhdl_fpgacamp.pdf>
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