Re: [myhdl-list] Conference Plans: Perspective, Flyer, Sign, Classroom classes, Python Classes, Success Stories, Hardware Demo

[Christopher F. <chr...@gm...>]

Gtkwave analog plot of fixed-point value.

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On Apr 3, 2011 1:29 PM, "Kevin Stanton" <sta...@gm...> wrote:
> That poster looks great!
>
> I'm curious what waveform viewer is being shown in the middle in black and
white? Is it gtkwave? I wasn't aware that it would allow plotting of an
analog waveform (or is it an analog plot of a fixedpoint signal?)
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Christopher Felton <chr...@gm...>
wrote:
>
>> I was probably the last person in the world that should have attempt to
generate a poster, but I did. If you think it is usable feel free to use it.
>>
>> If anyone has suggestions I can try and incorporate them or send the
source. We could create a wiki page for camp prep :)
>>
>> Chris Felton
>>
>> On 4/1/11 11:07 AM, Christopher Lozinski wrote:
>>> I have been reading the myhdl.org website. It is superbly done.
>>> Very carefully written. Looks great. It is not even his native
>>> language, but I could not tell. It makes me expect the software will be
>>> as carefully done. It looks like a labor of love.
>>>
>>> My perspective on this is that it is an obvious way to rapidly
>>> design and thoroughly test new hardware designs. But somehow the rest of
>>> the world does not see it this way. It needs some marketing push.
>>>
>>> I think the most important thing for the trade show is the flyer.
>>> Let everyone get a page of material to take home, they can read it
>>> later, download the software, and read the website. There is great
>>> content on
>>> http://myhdl.org/doku.php/start
>>>
>>> and
>>> http://myhdl.org/doku.php/why
>>>
>>> The next most important thing is a sign. I think it is easy to print up
>>> a big black and white sign across multiple sheets of paper
>>>
>>> MyHDL = Python -> FPGA
>>>
>>> Then I can scotch tape them together, and put them up on the wall.
>>>
>>> But it is always good to make money off things. It means it is
>>> alive. What do people need to get started. Well the best thing would
>>> be a class. Go to the show, get a flyer, go home read it look at the
>>> web site, go sign up for a class. I read that some of these design
>>> tools cost $100,000 for 1 seat for a year. Amazing. Surely they could
>>> spring $1,000 for a class. Does anyone want to teach a class in this
>>> stuff. We could say 5 student minimum.
>>>
>>> As for python classes, I am glad to see there is now a data
>>> structure class. That is a step in the right direction. There was
>>> recently a discussion on floating point classes. The hardware engineers
>>> said it is too inefficient, just define the range for your application.
>>> The software engineers like myself, say just give us the floating point
>>> classes. I do not know the ranges. Some of the FPGA devices have
>>> floating point multipliers. How do I talk to them? By writing my own
>>> class. Ridiculous. Give me the class please.
>>>
>>> A rich class library is a sign of a mature python library. They
>>> talk about ip cores in this industry. Yes I would like python designs
>>> for ethernet interface, usb interface, etc. And certainly for floating
>>> point, and for a whole bunch of other stuff.
>>>
>>> Thank you for the offer of the hardware demo. I have not sent
>>> Christopher Felton my mailing address. I think that demo targets the
>>> wrong market. It uses a FPGA to generate some sounds. I think it
>>> targets the hobbyist market. The money is in the major corporations.
>>> What they want to do is minimize their risk. They want to see large
>>> complex designs that have been produced with this tool suite. They want
>>> us to argue that python allows for complex test suites, further reducing
>>> their risks.
>>>
>>> So does anyone have some complex designs, preferably that went to
>>> silicon that we can show and simulate? Is anyone interested in offering
>>> a MyHDL class?
>>>
>>
>> <myhdl_fpgacamp.pdf>
>>
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