Re: [myhdl-list] Conference Plans: Perspective, Flyer, Sign, Classroom classes, Python Classes, Success Stories, Hardware Demo

[Kevin S. <sta...@gm...>]

That poster looks great!

I'm curious what waveform viewer is being shown in the middle in black and white? Is it gtkwave? I wasn't aware that it would allow plotting of an analog waveform (or is it an analog plot of a fixedpoint signal?)


On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Christopher Felton <chr...@gm...> wrote:

> I was probably the last person in the world that should have attempt to generate a poster, but I did.  If you think it is usable feel free to use it.
> 
> If anyone has suggestions I can try and incorporate them or send the source.  We could create a wiki page for camp prep :)
> 
> Chris Felton
> 
> On 4/1/11 11:07 AM, Christopher Lozinski wrote:
>>       I have been reading the myhdl.org website.  It is superbly done.
>> Very carefully written.  Looks great.  It is not even his native
>> language, but I could not tell.  It makes me expect the software will be
>> as carefully done.   It looks like a labor of love.
>> 
>>      My perspective on this is that it is an obvious way to rapidly
>> design and thoroughly test new hardware designs. But somehow the rest of
>> the world does not see it this way.  It needs some marketing push.
>> 
>>      I think the most important thing for the trade show is the flyer.
>> Let everyone get a page of material to take home, they can read it
>> later, download the software, and read the website.  There is great
>> content on
>> http://myhdl.org/doku.php/start
>> 
>> and
>> http://myhdl.org/doku.php/why
>> 
>> The next most important thing is a sign.  I think it is easy to print up
>> a big black and white sign across multiple sheets of paper
>> 
>> MyHDL = Python ->  FPGA
>> 
>> Then I can scotch tape them together, and put them up on the wall.
>> 
>>     But it is always good to make money off things.  It means it is
>> alive.  What do people need to get started.  Well the best thing would
>> be a class.  Go to the show, get a flyer, go home read it look at the
>> web site, go sign up for a class.  I read that some of these design
>> tools cost $100,000 for 1 seat for a year.  Amazing.  Surely they could
>> spring $1,000 for a class.  Does anyone want to teach a class in this
>> stuff.  We could say 5 student minimum.
>> 
>>    As for python classes, I am glad to see there is now a data
>> structure class.  That is a step in the right direction. There was
>> recently a discussion on floating point classes.  The hardware engineers
>> said it is too inefficient, just define the range for your application.
>> The software engineers like myself, say just give us the floating point
>> classes.  I do not know the ranges.   Some of the FPGA devices have
>> floating point multipliers.   How do I talk to them?  By writing my own
>> class.  Ridiculous.  Give me the class please.
>> 
>>    A rich class library is a sign of a mature python library.  They
>> talk about ip cores in this industry.  Yes I would like python designs
>> for ethernet interface, usb interface, etc.  And certainly for floating
>> point, and for a whole bunch of other stuff.
>> 
>>    Thank you for the offer of the hardware demo.  I have not sent
>> Christopher Felton my mailing address.  I think that demo targets the
>> wrong market.  It uses a FPGA to generate some sounds.  I think it
>> targets the hobbyist market.  The money is in the major corporations.
>> What they want to do is minimize their risk.  They want to see large
>> complex designs that have been produced with this tool suite.  They want
>> us to argue that python allows for complex test suites, further reducing
>> their risks.
>> 
>>    So does anyone have some complex designs, preferably that went to
>> silicon that we can show and simulate?  Is anyone interested in offering
>> a MyHDL class?
>> 
> 
> <myhdl_fpgacamp.pdf>
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