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From: <ben...@id...> - 2004-05-22 12:23:40
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From: Cam <ca...@me...> - 2004-02-05 11:49:21
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Hi, some info that is probably related to the MX-7. Lorn Potter of trolltech is recruiting developers to work in return for hardware. I haven't contacted him myself (yet) but I think this is probably the same device as the MX-7 I think people with a special interest in GPS/maps might be wanted, but it's just a guess. Cheers, -Cam -- ca...@me... <-- |
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From: Cam <ca...@me...> - 2004-01-31 09:37:20
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Hi all, the PDA that wouldn't die. I hear that there will be a couple of MX-7 models for sale online from softfield soon. Expect more news in a week's time. -Cam |
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From: Eric B. <ebr...@ea...> - 2003-11-23 17:31:05
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Cam wrote: > Hi All > >> I'll be sure to post here when I have some good news... > > > I just heard from Softield that they have decided to produce what was > going to be the MX7 exclusively for a single brand name customer. > Early next year we might find out who is going to release that new > small form factor PDA, whether it will still run linux, and exactly > what features it has (probably more features or it won't stand a > chance in the current market). Yesterday I noticed the Royal LineaLX entry on LinuxDevices.com: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9214394349.html It looks suspiciously like the MX-7... Eric |
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From: <mik...@pi...> - 2003-11-23 17:20:24
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Too bad, I was looking forward to buying a couple, I was kind of suspecting that that the Mx7 might be having some problems getting into production. At least Softfield is still supporting the Vr-3. I can't understand why it seems to be so difficult to get a Linux based PDA off of the ground, the OS license is free and you have to write the organizer software anyway. If you could get some excellent organizer software and the ability to sync well with Windows, Mac, and Linux. I would think that the underlying OS would be irrelevant to the general public. It seems that Sharp's Zarius is the only Linux based handheld that has the critical mass to compete for shelf space at the retail level and while I think the Zarius is a fine handheld computer, it's more than most people need (or want to pay for) as a PDA. Mike Cook -----Original Message----- From: Cam <ca...@me...> Sent: Nov 23, 2003 5:40 AM To: Cam <ca...@me...> Cc: Alvin Smith <em...@al...>, mx7...@li... Subject: [Mx7community-general] MX7 news... Hi All > I'll be sure to post here when I have some good news... I just heard from Softield that they have decided to produce what was going to be the MX7 exclusively for a single brand name customer. Early next year we might find out who is going to release that new small form factor PDA, whether it will still run linux, and exactly what features it has (probably more features or it won't stand a chance in the current market). It's a shame but I get the impression that Softfield did not have the resources to fund a large (ie. efficient) production run and all the support and development required. In the meantime has anyone got any suggestions for a small, low cost linux PDA? I think some Pocket PC machines can be converted but I don't really know which ones are good value etc. There are some Palm based machines (like the Sony Clie TJ25 or 35 for example, very cheap) which are close to the MX7 spec - but it might be hard to get linux to run on them... Regards, -Cam ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Mx7community-general mailing list Mx7...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mx7community-general |
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From: Cam <ca...@me...> - 2003-11-23 10:40:38
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Hi All > I'll be sure to post here when I have some good news... I just heard from Softield that they have decided to produce what was going to be the MX7 exclusively for a single brand name customer. Early next year we might find out who is going to release that new small form factor PDA, whether it will still run linux, and exactly what features it has (probably more features or it won't stand a chance in the current market). It's a shame but I get the impression that Softfield did not have the resources to fund a large (ie. efficient) production run and all the support and development required. In the meantime has anyone got any suggestions for a small, low cost linux PDA? I think some Pocket PC machines can be converted but I don't really know which ones are good value etc. There are some Palm based machines (like the Sony Clie TJ25 or 35 for example, very cheap) which are close to the MX7 spec - but it might be hard to get linux to run on them... Regards, -Cam |
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From: Cam <ca...@me...> - 2003-11-11 22:45:03
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Alvin > So, does anyone have this machine? Comments? Not yet, the last info I heard was that there were some problems being fixed before going to mass production... Given the state of the early Agenda Computing VR3s I think I'd rather wait for as long as it takes to get the unit 'consumer ready' :) I'll be sure to post here when I have some good news... -Cam |
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From: Alvin S. <em...@al...> - 2003-11-11 21:13:34
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On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 23:14, Don Walker wrote: > I just discovered that Softfield has put up an online ordering page > at... > http://www.softfield.com/order_online.html > > Later, > DonW... So, does anyone have this machine? Comments? -- alvinasmithjr |
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From: Don W. <do...@au...> - 2003-10-16 03:14:59
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I just discovered that Softfield has put up an online ordering page at... http://www.softfield.com/order_online.html Later, DonW... |
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From: Don W. <do...@au...> - 2003-10-04 04:47:19
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All, Latest word I have from Softfield is that the MX-7 is in for CE and FCC testing and approval. There is some difficulty getting some "raw materials" parts? and that initial shipments, which were scheduled to have begun, are delayed about 3 weeks. Later, DonW... |
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From: Cam <ca...@me...> - 2003-09-19 20:38:34
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Hi all, I surfed a little from the motorola link that is given on the softfield page and found some interesting stuff. There is a linux bsp (board support package) which might well be source code for the kernel - maybe not the whole kernel but the important bits specific to the CPU, memory and integrated peripherals (SD/MMC driver maybe?). It's a huge download. You have to sign up to Motorola to download the BSP but the final download is under the GPL. The CPU itself has some interesting features like hardware support to accelerate some multimedia functions, and to implement bluetooth. No idea if they are supported by default. The multimedia stuff might help to decode video and play mp3/ogg. There are also references to REDBOOT which is a boot loader/monitor written by RedHat, also under GPL (no signup required). Finally there are some flashing tools which appear to be for windows :( (talk of COM ports and an exe file). I don't imagine it would be too hard to make a linux version... maybe a little risky testing it :) -Cam |
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From: Cam <ca...@me...> - 2003-09-19 19:32:42
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Hi >> I still have a lot of questions: >> - What's the external size? Same as VR3? I have pestered Michael on the matter and he says the size is: > MX7 size 17 x 113 x 77 mm Which makes it exactly like the vr3 except in depth. At it's thickest, the vr3 is a 20mm, at the thin end it's 15mm. So the MX7 is as small as a vr3 but a little thinner.... I think that's awesome. Michael also said: We also supply MX7 sync cable and MX7 Developer download cable as standard packing. So the standard comes with serial and USB cables, which is good (the Zaurus cables cost about $40 I think). But no word on how to use the PS/2 capabilities... I hear they will start shipping sometime early in October. -Cam -- ca...@me... <-- |
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From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2003-09-14 22:40:23
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On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 11:28:50PM +0100, Cam wrote: > Note from Cam: this message was delayed and it was my fault. It was sent > to the admin address not the list address > mx7...@li.... I didn't check my email > carefully enough because my son was in hospital (he's OK now). My > apologies to Softfield, Michael and the list subscribers, this info now > seems out of date, but had I forwarded it promptly it wouldn't. The MX7 runs Qtopia, correct? If so, it should be pretty trivial to get most current software for the Zaurus and other Qtopia systems to run on the MX7 too, right? (I'm thinking of my games, which use SDL on top of Qtopia >:^) ) -bill! -- bi...@ne... Got kids? Get Tux Paint! http://newbreedsoftware.com/bill/ http://newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/ |
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From: Cam <ca...@me...> - 2003-09-14 22:28:57
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Note from Cam: this message was delayed and it was my fault. It was sent to the admin address not the list address mx7...@li.... I didn't check my email carefully enough because my son was in hospital (he's OK now). My apologies to Softfield, Michael and the list subscribers, this info now seems out of date, but had I forwarded it promptly it wouldn't. -Cam ----- Original Message ----- From: mx...@so... To: mx7...@li... Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: MX7 release time and new website Dear All, Please visit MX7 website www.softfield.com We will accept order by the end of September, 2003 sa...@so... MX7 delivery start from early October, 2003 For MX7 PDA support mx...@so... New software to our MX7 are welcome New relate site are welcome Thanks for your support, Softfield Technology Inc. Michael |
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From: Mike C. <mik...@pi...> - 2003-09-11 00:45:40
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Cool, I'll be waiting in line ;-) Mike C At 11:45 AM 9/10/03 -0500, you wrote: >Word from Softfield is that "at the end of this month will accept >order". > >Later, >DonW... > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >Welcome to geek heaven. >http://thinkgeek.com/sf >_______________________________________________ >Mx7community-general mailing list >Mx7...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mx7community-general |
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From: Don W. <do...@au...> - 2003-09-10 16:46:38
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Word from Softfield is that "at the end of this month will accept order". Later, DonW... |
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From: Don W. <do...@au...> - 2003-09-07 16:13:40
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The new website looks much better. DonW... > -----Original Message----- > From: mx7...@li... > [mailto:mx7...@li...]On Behalf Of > Aschwin Marsman > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 11:40 AM > To: mx7community-general > Cc: sa...@so... > Subject: [Mx7community-general] Info available on www.softfield.com > > > Hi, > > The website www.softfield.com is updated and contains info on > the MX7. > > Price: US$ 299.00 > > Shipping/Handling > :: Canada & USA US$16.00 (Register Post) > :: EU US$25.00 (Register Post) > > I still have a lot of questions: > - What's the external size? Same as VR3? > - How solid is the case? > - How about the LCD lines, that's how my VR3D got unusable. > - What's the battery life? Batteries recharable without > the need to take them out of the MX7? > - Is it possible to replace the kernel? Using which tools? > - Is there an X server available that can run on the MX7? > - Which toolchain is needed, is it freely available? > - ... > > Have a nice weekend, > > Aschwin Marsman > > -- > as...@ma... http://www.marsman.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Mx7community-general mailing list > Mx7...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mx7community-general |
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From: Eric B. <ebr...@ea...> - 2003-09-06 19:30:58
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Aschwin Marsman wrote: >I still have a lot of questions: >- What's the external size? Same as VR3? > That was implied in an earlier msg on the Agenda list, but it would be nice to see actual measurements. One of the principle reasons I prefer my VR3 over my Zaurus is the size and shape. The smoothed corners of the VR3 just fit so much more nicely in my pocket. >- How solid is the case? >- How about the LCD lines, that's how my VR3D got unusable. > Agree! Durability is a major problem with the VR3. I'm on my second one now due to the LCD lines. The first one lasted about 1.5 years before I gave up on it, but it really should do better than that. >- What's the battery life? Batteries recharable without > the need to take them out of the MX7? > This is a crucial point. On these DRAM-based systems, losing the batteries mean losing everything in memory (as opposed to the VR3 which keeps everything in Flash, so rebooting doesn't lose saved data). It's another reason I don't rely on my Zaurus. >- Is it possible to replace the kernel? Using which tools? > I assume so, primarily due to similarities with the Zaurus. This is a Flash-based system, so there must be a way to re-write the Flash. The process hasn't been documented yet though. On the Zaurus, you can either load the new system into a CF card and reboot, or download over the USB. >- Is there an X server available that can run on the MX7? > Way too early to tell. Even the Opie project for the Zaurus still uses Qt instead of replacing it with X. >- Which toolchain is needed, is it freely available? > For non-commercial development the Qtopia development tool are freely available. http://www.trolltech.com/download/qtopia/index.html?cr=1 The ARM version of gcc is of course free. Here's some info on setting it up: http://www.splitbrain.org/index.php?x=.%2FZaurus%2FDevelopment%2FCrosscompiler Eric |
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From: Aschwin M. <as...@ma...> - 2003-09-06 16:40:40
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Hi, The website www.softfield.com is updated and contains info on the MX7. Price: US$ 299.00 Shipping/Handling :: Canada & USA US$16.00 (Register Post) :: EU US$25.00 (Register Post) I still have a lot of questions: - What's the external size? Same as VR3? - How solid is the case? - How about the LCD lines, that's how my VR3D got unusable. - What's the battery life? Batteries recharable without the need to take them out of the MX7? - Is it possible to replace the kernel? Using which tools? - Is there an X server available that can run on the MX7? - Which toolchain is needed, is it freely available? - ... Have a nice weekend, Aschwin Marsman -- as...@ma... http://www.marsman.org |
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From: Cam <ca...@me...> - 2003-09-04 22:07:19
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Cam wrote: > I will put a wiki site up to act as a placeholder for any questions. We > can link to relevant other sites (softfield and trolltech) as necessary. Done: http://mx7community.sf.net Please report any problems to me, -Cam |
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From: Cam <ca...@me...> - 2003-09-04 14:37:53
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Hi all, Not long to wait now, only a couple of days until the softfield site is updated with info and a FAQ (source: Michael, "Sept 6"). I will put a wiki site up to act as a placeholder for any questions. We can link to relevant other sites (softfield and trolltech) as necessary. -Cam -- ca...@me... <-- |
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From: Don W. <do...@au...> - 2003-09-04 04:28:30
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Yes. It's available for free for non-commercial development. See... http://www.trolltech.com/products/licensing.html Later, DonW... > -----Original Message----- > From: mx7...@li... > [mailto:mx7...@li...]On Behalf Of > Aschwin Marsman > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:10 PM > To: ma7community-general > Subject: [Mx7community-general] Qtopia > > > From the Trolltech website: > > Developers interested in creating commercial applications for Qtopia > devices may purchase an SDK for $195 (USD) from RegNow. > > http://www.trolltech.com/products/qtopia/pricing.html > > Does this mean that for non commercial development an SDK is available > for free? Or not at all? > > Have fun, > > Aschwin Marsman > > -- > as...@ma... http://www.marsman.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Mx7community-general mailing list > Mx7...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mx7community-general |
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From: Aschwin M. <as...@ma...> - 2003-09-04 04:10:50
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From the Trolltech website: Developers interested in creating commercial applications for Qtopia devices may purchase an SDK for $195 (USD) from RegNow. http://www.trolltech.com/products/qtopia/pricing.html Does this mean that for non commercial development an SDK is available for free? Or not at all? Have fun, Aschwin Marsman -- as...@ma... http://www.marsman.org |
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From: Aschwin M. <as...@ma...> - 2003-09-04 03:35:11
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> > > Does anybody know, is there a web page for the mx7, on is it going to go > > > on the softfield web page and nobody has gotten around to setting it up? > > > > I was half tempted to put a barebones wiki site on mx7community.sf.net, > > putting up the three pictures that have been released so far, and the > > spec, but it seems a bit premature until we know what sort of web site > > softfield have in mind. Why not put the available information online? Why wait for softfield? > > It might be worth putting up some questions that we have, such as what > > will the boot loader be like, how will we update flash, and so on. I totally agree, is softfield already subscribed to this list? > > What do you people think? > I would really like to get some more information about the OS and available > development tools, etc. I still haven't seen the pictures since I'm on the > Vr3 digest and have been too lazy to dig them out and decode them. I hope > Softfield puts some information up soon. I think we need information about how the MX7 is from a developer perspective. Is it possible to replace the kernel? Using which tools? Is there an X server available that can run on the MX7? Which toolchain is needed, is it freely available? ... > > -Cam > > Mike C Have fun, Aschwin Marsman -- as...@ma... http://www.marsman.org |
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From: Mike C. <mik...@pi...> - 2003-09-03 22:27:46
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I would really like to get some more information about the OS and available development tools, etc. I still haven't seen the pictures since I'm on the Vr3 digest and have been too lazy to dig them out and decode them. I hope Softfield puts some information up soon. Mike C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cam" <ca...@me...> To: "Brian Beattie" <be...@be...> Cc: <mx7...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [Mx7community-general] Mx7 info > Brian > > > Does anybody know, is there a web page for the mx7, on is it going to go > > on the softfield web page and nobody has gotten around to setting it up? > > I was half tempted to put a barebones wiki site on mx7community.sf.net, > putting up the three pictures that have been released so far, and the > spec, but it seems a bit premature until we know what sort of web site > softfield have in mind. > > It might be worth putting up some questions that we have, such as what > will the boot loader be like, how will we update flash, and so on. > > What do you people think? > > -Cam > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Mx7community-general mailing list > Mx7...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mx7community-general > |
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