From: <muq...@li...> - 2000-08-02 03:39:56
|
This is very useful feedback. (I'm going to be vacationing in Saas-Fee Switzerland much of the last half of this month, and am expecting to get back into actively working on Muq again at that point, courtesy of my antique laptop. :) After seven and a half years slaving over a hot terminal, it hard for me to see Muq as newcomers do, and to deduce what would be most useful. I was not aware that the beginner MUF tutorial had broken examples, but your deduction about order of creation is correct. :) I've been trying to dream up a simple way of making the reference manual and tutorial examples part of the regression suite, so that they get tested regularly. At the moment, maintainance of them is purely manual, and as a result bitrot does tend to get to them. :( We definitely need for someone other than me to develop and maintain something like one or more "muqlib"s -- maintaining the C server and docs is quite enough to keep me spread thin, without trying to take on major softcode projects as well. "oldmud", as the name implies, is intended primarily as a springboard to get other people started on such projects. Unfortunately, as a springboard it seems to fall considerably short: About half a dozen people have taken a shot at such a project, with so far no shippable results. Life is Good! :) -- Cynbe > My personal votes are for: > > This > > * Just generally working on the documentation and laying off > > coding for awhile. > > then this, > > * In-db access to a Gtk client to enable the above sorts of > > stuff. > > then this, > > * Heavy documentation on how to build a fairly conventional > > text world-server on Muq, just because that's what most Muq > > folks to date seem most interested in doing, but foiled by > > the high first step on the current Muq learning curve. > > Mostly because the first two will help in people wanting to do the third. > Though over the past couple of days, I think I've gotten a decent enough > feel that I can mostly rely on the muf reference guide. > > But stuff like the examples for objects in the beginner muf guide appears > wrong now. So that was somewhat frustrating trying that out early on. I'm > guessing MUF for hackers was written much more recently as the examples in > there work. > > > I haven't tried the muc shell to much but if there's stuff you want to > iron out with that compiler, I'd put that as a high priority too as that'd > be likely to help bring in lpc types. > > > My personal goal is to develop a muck-like "muqlib", to borrow the lpmud > term, and then expand and branch from there. I've looked around oldmud > and I'm getting an idea of how to approach it. > > > _______________________________________________ > Muq-coder mailing list > Muq...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/muq-coder |