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From: Adam P. <ad...@ip...> - 2014-08-27 09:47:18
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Dear Valia, > Let me also add here a few more facts to the ones presented in your > message: in a personal communication (over a phone call) that I had with > the PARSEME PO, Dr. Stübner, in the last week of July (if I recall > correctly, it must've been on July 29), he said that the procedure for the > relocation of the meeting was already at that point in time well under > way, in the sense, as he mentioned, that people were busy finding meeting > rooms and hotels. I can't be held responsible for the views of the COST Office. As to PARSEME chairs, we left the options open until the very end of the voting – no commitmens were made before that day. > During the last 3-4 weeks there have been messages to me from MC members > in which people have been expressing confusion on what the justification > basis of the vote for the relocation is. I can fully understand that – I've been confused myself. > As you may understand, the additional pieces of the story mentioned here > do raise questions on the reasons of the decided and implemented now > relocation. Valia, as you probably very well know, PARSEME chairs originally asked Shuly Wintner to organise a meeting in Haifa and then, when he agreed, the PARSEME MC voted for this location (there were two bids, Haifa got more votes than the other one). So I am really not sure what you are implying – please be explicit. Again, I don't know what the reasoning in the COST Office was, but within PARSEME itself the procedure has been fully transparent and – until well into the voting period – many of us (certainly including the chairs of the Action) hoped we would be able to maintain the original meeting location. I can very well understand that you bitterly regret that the meeting was relocated. But this is really not a reason to blindly start blaming everybody around for this move. Best regards, Adam P. P.S. My apologies again to this list for the length of this thread. This is my last post on this topic. > On Wed, August 27, 2014 00:23, Adam Przepiorkowski wrote: >> Dear Valia, >> >> Let me jump in as the vice chair of PARSEME COST Action (the OP, Agata >> Savary, is the chair). >> >>> since you're using the list for the advertisement of the specific event, >>> please, be so kind and inform the participants of this mailing list >>> about >>> the reasons for the last minute relocation of the meeting from Haifa to >>> Frankfurt. >> >> Thanks for bringing the issue of relocating the event to the attention >> of the members of this list. This is an important case of science >> meetings politics – and such an encounter is never a good thing, as I >> remember from my student years in the communist Poland. >> >> The meeting was indeed planned at first to take place in Haifa and the >> great majority of PARSEME members (certainly including the PARSEME >> chairs) were very much looking forward to it. Unfortunately, when the >> Gaza conflict escalated, the COST Office issued on 24 July 2014 a >> recommendation to relocate the meeting, with a rather strong wording, >> including phrases “the COST Association strongly recommends to relocate >> the meeting” and, especially: >> >> “In the case that the Management Committee despite this >> recommendation insists to run the meeting in Israel in September or in >> any nearby future, in which the situation in Israel has not >> significantly relaxed, the COST Association disclaims any liability >> whatsoever towards the meeting participants for damages, financial or >> other, which are associated with this meeting. This includes any >> damages, financial or other, in the case of the cancellation of the >> meeting, if needed, at a later stage. Furthermore, please be informed >> that in the case the Action continues to implement the meeting in Israel >> the COST Association will ask the Action to provide from every single >> participant a signed letter stating, that the participant will not try >> to make the COST Association liable for any damage, financial or other, >> associated with the meeting.” >> >> We, the chairs of PARSEME, had no other option but to ask the Management >> Committee (MC) members to vote on the relocation. We hoped that the >> escalation of the conflict would end in a few days (as it used to in the >> past) and we gave a pretty long voting time, until 20 August, hoping >> that we would maintain the original location. (I can say that openly >> now, as it won't influence the results of the voting any longer.) >> Unfortunately, the escalation didn't subside within days and – again, >> given the strong wording of the “recommendation” – many members of the >> PARSEME MC simply felt they had no choice but to vote for the relocation >> of the meeting. In fact, many votes for relocating the meeting where >> accompanied by comments expressing the regret that the meeting had to be >> moved to a different location. >> >> I was very much looking forward to the meeting in Haifa and I feel that >> this development is very unfortunate – and I know many people (including >> you, Valia, I assume) share this sentiment. Nevertheless, seeing that >> the results of the vote are bound to be to relocate the meeting, I got >> in touch with Prof. Manfred Sailer of the University of Frankfurt am >> Main (Institut für England- und Amerikastudien), who's also the leader >> of one of the PARSEME working groups, and asked whether it would be >> possible to organise the meeting on the original dates (8–9 September >> 2014) in Frankfurt, which is rather easy to get to from many locations >> in Europe. Prof. Sailer generously agreed to give it a try and, with >> the help of a number of people at Frankfurt (Manfred Sailer, Frank >> Richter, Gert Webelhuth), the relocation has been successful. The >> original programme of the meeting is more-or-less preserved, and we >> already received a large number of confirmations of the intent to >> participate (including from the organisers of the Haifa meeting). I >> hope, Valia, that you – any many other members of this list – will also >> make it to Frankfurt. >> >> All best, >> >> Adam P. >> >> >> P.S. Apologies for the length of this e-mail, but I realised that the >> relocation of the meeting has caused some concern, so I thought it would >> make sense to explain the situation in some detail. >> >> >> >>> On Tue, August 26, 2014 21:49, Agata Savary wrote: >>>> CALL FOR PARTICIPATION >>>> >>>> PARSEME COST Action IC1207 meeting >>>> 8–9 September 2014 >>>> Frankfurt am Main, Germany (relocated from Haifa, Israel) >>>> >>>> http://typo.uni-konstanz.de/parseme/index.php/event/meetings/95-frankfurt-workshop-on-mwes-8-9-september-2014-frankfurt-germany-relocated-from-haifa >>>> >>>> PARSEME COST Action IC1207 (www.parseme.eu) is dedicated to parsing and >>>> multi-word expressions. >>>> It gathers multidisciplinary experts from 30 countries. It is >>>> structured >>>> in four Working Groups: >>>> WG1: Lexicon/Grammar Interface >>>> WG2: Parsing Techniques for MWEs >>>> WG3: Statistical, Hybrid and Multilingual Processing of MWEs >>>> WG4: Annotating MWEs in Treebanks >>>> >>>> The third general meeting of PARSEME, initially planned at the >>>> University >>>> of Haifa (Israel), will take place on 8–9 September 2014 at the >>>> University >>>> of Frankfurt am Main (Germany). The meeting will start on Monday >>>> 8.09.2014 >>>> morning with plenary >>>> sessions, and will continue on Monday p.m. and Tuesday 9.09.2014 with >>>> poster sessions and partly parallel Working Group (WG) sessions. >>>> >>>> The preliminary program, including the list of accepted posters, is >>>> available at: >>>> http://typo.uni-konstanz.de/parseme/index.php/event/meetings/95-frankfurt-workshop-on-mwes-8-9-september-2014-frankfurt-germany-relocated-from-haifa >>>> >>>> PARSEME members (who have received formal invitations) will be >>>> reimbursed >>>> for their travel and stay. >>>> Participation for other external persons is free. If you are >>>> interested, >>>> please, contact the local organizers before 3 September. >>>> >>>> Local organizers: >>>> Manfred Sailer and Gert Webelhuth - Goethe Universität Frankfurt am >>>> Main >>>> >>>> Local organizer for the initial venue: >>>> Shuly Wintner - University of Haifa >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Slashdot TV. >>>> Video for Nerds. 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