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#165 Move off of Sourceforge
Sourceforge has recently started to bundle malware with downloads.
See this site: http://helb.github.io/goodbye-sourceforge/
I suggest that Msys2 find a new home. GitHub is the obvious choice. (And there are other choices if GitHub is not good enough for some reason.)
Currently I don't know where we can move as we need large file storage and big traffic.
I'm guessing that "large file storage" applies to serving binaries? And the big traffic is to those binaries?
I used to serve binary downloads of my open-source project PythonTurtle (much smaller than Msys2) on Sourceforge, and I moved them to Bintray a couple of weeks ago. Seems to be working fine.
I see on this blog post that GitHub does seem to provide binary downloads: https://github.com/blog/1547-release-your-software
What do you think?
We have lot of files currently and upload new files avery day. Also some packages very big - about 500Mb. To upload packages we need at least
ftporsshnot web interface.I understand. I think that the problem is solvable, but it's up to you and I understand that the transfer costs might not be worth it. Thanks for listening!
Another thing to consider is using both GitHub and Sourceforge, keeping the
downloads on Sourceforge but using GitHub's issue track instead of
Sourceforge's. See those annoying lines below my message? They wouldn't
appear on GitHub.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Ram Rachum coolrr@users.sf.net wrote:
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#165We already use github as issue tracker for packages.
Great! So using Sourceforge's issue manager only for Msys2 core?
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Alexx83 lexx83@users.sf.net wrote:
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#165For MSYS2 core you can also create issues on github on msys2-packages.
Awesome, thank you!
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Alexx83 lexx83@users.sf.net wrote:
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#165Homebrew moved to Bintray for large file storage several months ago, they have an API you can use to programmatically upload packages. In addition to sourceforge being sleazy, it's horribly unreliable, going down multiple times a week - totally unsuitable to be relied upon if msys2 packages are going to be used in a production setting.
If you want to try GitHub downloads, you may try my script. I'm using PowerShell to upload ConEmu binaries to GitHub for a long time.
https://github.com/Maximus5/Scripts/tree/master/PowerShell/GitHub-Release-Upload
BTW, how do you upload binaries to sourceforge? I get a weird bug with scp hang a few months ago...
https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/10647/
I'm use rsync+ssh like:
Just wanted to say that on top of hoping to see this project move to github, that I did encounter some unavailable servers while trying things out yesterday. You'd probably benefit from a lot of positive attention by being there too. My gut is telling me that msys2 seems like the best option for FOSS tools on Windows ATM.
If Google is shutting down code, Microsoft is ditching codeplex...Moving to github is a no-brainer here! :)
It's not a no-brainer. github doesn't support binary packages with the arbitrary filenames and comprehensive upload methods that we require.
I'm confident that if homebrew can pull it off, so can you.
Homebrew doesn't use github for binary packages, they use bintray.
We use github as the source for our packages the same way that homebrew do (please read this whole thread as this has all been said here already).
Hey, no need to get so defensive man, I'm just trying to show some positive support.
Is there something about bintray that wouldn't work?
I'm not. Please read entire threads before posting and adding to the confusion.
Bintray might work, I'm hopeful. Thanks for the support.
I find Sourceforge as an issue tracker much less user-friendly than GitHub.
Given that the issues for packages already live on GitHub, please can we move the canonical location for MSYS2 base installer/archive/... to GitHub too? The packages themselves can remain on SourceForge for now - let's not overcomplicate the issue tracker move :-)
ie please can:
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As a potential follow-on, the project home (ie description/landing page) could be changed from https://sourceforge.net/projects/msys2/ to somewhere on GitHub, meaning that SourceForge is then only used for file hosting.
Many thanks!
Last edit: Ed 2016-08-29
The move has been on for some time now and is currently happening more intensively (I'm trying to filter and move the issues). I will investigate if we can use BinTray (there's already some account: https://bintray.com/alexpux/msys2) as an alternative mirror.