Re: [Mratc-developers] [my status]
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From: <aqu...@ya...> - 2004-08-22 13:42:00
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--- Michael Ross <ht...@us...> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aquila Deus" <aqu...@ya...> > > > > If obstacles are in the way, we guide the flights around > them, > > > but otherwise let the flights choose their own path. We are > in > > > charge of short-term (within the next minute or so) > navigation; > > > the flights are in charge of long-term navigation. > > > > But if so, the flights may not need the ATC. They should be > able to detect > > short-term problems, just like fighters. > > Maybe. That is an excellent way to distribute processing. > However, could a flight ever be between a rock and a hard place > and by itself find no safe route through, while an ATC, seeing > the big picture and following a ruleset, could find a safe route > (by moving other planes out of the way, for example)? > > The industry is experimenting with free flight ATC, where each > flight is in charge of its own collision avoidance. They are > having a hard time implementing something that reliably does the > job. > > Think of this. What if flight A and flight B were approching > point X, both flights due to arrive at point X at the same time? > Which flight should cede right of way to the other? I suppose a > ruleset could be implemented like the flight on the right yields > to the flight on the left. But with this ruleset comes a > problem. If the flight on the right is supposed to make a > course adjustment, but cannot, because it is up against > restricted airspace, the flight on the left should make a course > adjustment. But how can the flight on the left know the flight > on the right cannot make an adjustment? Centralized ATC could > solve this problem. > > What if five flights were approaching from five different > directions and due to arrive at point X at the same time? How > do they get out of that jam? Separating different headings into > different altitudes might help with this problem. > > Flights cannot be flying around in total randomness. There > needs to be some kind of order established for them. For > example, currently, they have highways in the sky that flights > follow. I propose different headings should fly at different > altitudes. Can you imagine the darting back and forth a flight > would have to do to avoid flights approaching from every > direction? Darting back and forth is not something commercial > airliners were designed to do. Passengers probably would not > care too much for it, either. > > If different headings are separated into different altitudes, > what happens when a flight wants to change its heading/altitude? > Will its radar be able to tell if the course is clear at the new > altitude and heading? > > > I have never heard two close fighters hit each other. > > There are not usually thousands of fighters in the sky at the > same time. They usually go on sorties, or predefined flights, > or missions. As the sorties are laid out, I'm sure they take > into consideration conflct or integration with other sorties. > > Pilots cannot reliably perform collision avoidance with their > eyes because the rate of closure at mach 0.85 is too high. > Also, bad weather or darkness makes this difficult. > > Currently, air traffic controllers are performing collision > avoidance with their eyes. They look at their radar screen and > tell flights to adjust their course if they are headed for a > collision. A human being has a certain limit to the number of > flights he or she can safely process at one time. Computers can > process information faster and more accurately than humans. Ummmm... If that's all, things would be very simple :) But why don't they just replace useless human beings with computers? What's the problem they face?? ===== me = d2004xx = d2003xx = d2002xx ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com |