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From: Paul <pa...@tu...> - 2010-05-25 10:31:10
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On Monday 29 March 2010, Paul wrote: > In the meantime, I'll leave Zathras running the nightly autobuilds > until I get a hardware failure or receive instruction to shut him > down. After a brownout over the weekend, Zathras has suffered a primary hard disk failure - It may be sometime before a replacement can be sourced. Regards, Paul. |
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From: Enrico W. <we...@me...> - 2010-05-02 23:33:20
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hi folks, just in case anybody's interested: i've written an little paper about the oss-qm project, which aims to provide fixed/cleaned sourcetrees to lots of packages+versions and so offload a lot of QM/patching work from individual distros to some common place: http://www.metux.de/download/oss-qm-project-2010050101.pdf cu -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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From: Enrico W. <we...@me...> - 2010-05-02 23:16:00
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* Paul <pa...@tu...> schrieb: > In th meantime, I'll leave Zathras running the nightly autobuilds until > I get a hardware failure or receive instruction to shut him down. It is good that Zathras does not mind ... ;-) cu -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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From: Michiel S. <mo...@aq...> - 2010-03-30 09:25:19
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:51:51 +0100 Brendan Sleight <me...@ba...> wrote: > I understand why the IBM-Java livecd was not included. :) > The page mentions what went wrong. It does not mention what went well. And quite a lot went well, imho. We were one of the first with a decent livecd, let alone a nice toolkit to easily build one yourself. > Highlights:- > * Morphix encouraged users to re-brand a livecd for single purpose > use. Quick and easy. > * Helping to spread GNU/Linux and Debian > * Morphix in print. Featured in books, "Knoppix Hacks: 100 > Industrial-Strength Tips and Tools" and Magazine interviews. > * Morphix was at one point in time _the_ way to use and install > debian-sid. It was no co-incidence that Ubuntu in it's early days used > Morphix. Indeed, it helped me bootstrapping a lot of Debian installs in its time. Had a lot of fun with aquamorph and all the other flavours too. > * Morphest! Still glad I was able to host it :) > I honestly think without Morphix, Ubuntu releases would have been > different and debian-live would not be here. That could very well be true. > Morphix ISO releases maybe in a coma, but the tools, the autobuilds > and #morphix lives on. I'm still thinking about releasing an updated aquamorph. Like, this year. Somewhere :) Cheers and thanks for all the fish! Maybe we'll resurrect it one time. - Michiel -- Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety - Benjamin Franklin |
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From: Vimal J. <vim...@gm...> - 2010-03-30 01:07:59
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On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 19:51 +0100, Brendan Sleight wrote: > I honestly think without Morphix, Ubuntu releases would have been > different and debian-live would not be here. > > Morphix ISO releases maybe in a coma, but the tools, the autobuilds > and #morphix lives on. Really true. Many used morphix for building special purpose liveCDs and still using. We used it to create EduMorphix which was the first distribution used by IT@School project in Kerala, India (a project to implement IT Education in schools) Now they use a debian based distribution, but that time, Morphix project helped us create a distribution with all the necessary educational packages in a short time and it was one of the key achievements that accelerated the migration of Kerala schools to Free Software. thanks for all those who are behind the Morphix project. regards, ~vimal -- Libarate your documents, Celebrate document freedom day 2010 Use OpenOffice : http://openoffice.org http://documentfreedom.org |
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From: Brendan S. <me...@ba...> - 2010-03-29 23:20:11
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On 29 March 2010 13:01, Paul wrote: > In th meantime, I'll leave Zathras running the nightly autobuilds until > I get a hardware failure or receive instruction to shut him down. The autobuilds still boot :) http://autotesting.livecd.org/autotesting/morphix/basemod-2.6.26-latest/2010-03-29/autotesting.ogv Regards, Brendan |
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From: Brendan S. <me...@ba...> - 2010-03-29 19:21:53
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On 29 March 2010 11:05, Alex de Landgraaf <al...@de...> wrote: > Take a look, let me know if anything is missing. I understand why the IBM-Java livecd was not included. The page mentions what went wrong. It does not mention what went well. Highlights:- * Morphix encouraged users to re-brand a livecd for single purpose use. Quick and easy. * Helping to spread GNU/Linux and Debian * Morphix in print. Featured in books, "Knoppix Hacks: 100 Industrial-Strength Tips and Tools" and Magazine interviews. * Morphix was at one point in time _the_ way to use and install debian-sid. It was no co-incidence that Ubuntu in it's early days used Morphix. * Morphest! I honestly think without Morphix, Ubuntu releases would have been different and debian-live would not be here. Morphix ISO releases maybe in a coma, but the tools, the autobuilds and #morphix lives on. Regards, Brendan |
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From: Brendan S. <me...@ba...> - 2010-03-29 19:09:34
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On 29 March 2010 13:01, Paul wrote: > P.S. The Morphix utilities are still useful for building quick'n'dirty > LiveCDs - Everything else I've tried is somewhat tedious and convoluted > in comparision. How about:- $ apt-get install live-helper $ lh_config && lh_build See:- http://live.debian.net/manual/html/ Not quite as easy as xml file of Morphix, but live-magic looks quite good. Not quite as good as Morphing-Morphix, but not bad. http://packages.debian.org/sid/live-magic They Debian-live images boot well:- http://autotesting.livecd.org/autotesting/debian-live/60alpha1/amd64/iso-hybrid/boot-as-usb/standard/2010-03-24/ Regards, Brendan |
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From: Alex de L. <al...@de...> - 2010-03-29 13:40:02
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Paul wrote: > I think I'd have steered users towards Knoppix rather than Ubuntu. The > former being the original inspiration for Debian based Live CDs. The > latter often includes unstable (read buggy) packages which is to be > expected when using snapshots of Debian's testing branch. I've updated the site to point to Knoppix, it's the least we can do. We'll leave the Ubuntu-flaming for #morphix :) > In th meantime, I'll leave Zathras running the nightly autobuilds until > I get a hardware failure or receive instruction to shut him down. Great, as long as there is interest (and you don't mind) Zathras can continue to provide builds. > P.S. The Morphix utilities are still useful for building quick'n'dirty > LiveCDs - Everything else I've tried is somewhat tedious and convoluted > in comparision. Agreed, and I don't mind fixing the occasional bug in the morphix tools as I still do a build every now and then myself. Nothing has changed in that regard compared to the previous years. It's just that I don't have the time (and haven't for a while) to provide a regular polished distro for end-users and the old website wasn't clear on that (besides the iso's from '06/'07). Thanks, Alex -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuwrZsACgkQQeuQA5TF/UurdACgj7oOeZ3uK/ffR9c8xAhdUHH9 CJ4AnA4P3uBk318xe0xqHl8OlGj80l3r =Nltf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Paul <pa...@tu...> - 2010-03-29 12:33:27
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On Monday 29 March 2010, Alex de Landgraaf wrote: > Today I've replaced the website with a "Morphix is currently in a > coma" webpage. I know we've known this was the case for some time, > but I decided we also have to inform random people stumbling upon > morphix.org. > > Take a look, let me know if anything is missing. I think I'd have steered users towards Knoppix rather than Ubuntu. The former being the original inspiration for Debian based Live CDs. The latter often includes unstable (read buggy) packages which is to be expected when using snapshots of Debian's testing branch. In th meantime, I'll leave Zathras running the nightly autobuilds until I get a hardware failure or receive instruction to shut him down. Regards, Paul. P.S. The Morphix utilities are still useful for building quick'n'dirty LiveCDs - Everything else I've tried is somewhat tedious and convoluted in comparision. |
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From: Alex de L. <al...@de...> - 2010-03-29 10:20:42
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Today I've replaced the website with a "Morphix is currently in a coma" webpage. I know we've known this was the case for some time, but I decided we also have to inform random people stumbling upon morphix.org. Take a look, let me know if anything is missing. cheers, Alex PS. Finally gotten rid of Joomla too! \o/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuwe1AACgkQQeuQA5TF/UsZBgCfUia7HEoV+71dzGW587ocjxNU quIAnjzJCEJcdAewfkhIOWho0QnRqpTr =jiRQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Alex de L. <al...@de...> - 2010-02-05 23:57:43
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Darren Benham wrote: > There doesn't seem to have been any activity in the last two years. Is this project still alive? Not really, to be honest. More of a coma though. We have a few daily autobuilds, but besides that our interests have moved on beyond live cds. You are welcome to try out the project, but if you simply want your own live cd you should try Debian Live and Ubuntu out first. cheers, Alex -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktsrXQACgkQQeuQA5TF/UveqACcD0OLi5Bc8ZuYONd8zkCaaPjV r+gAn3m2Q/p5oDRpGz1ZIF7ob+rBwStE =xFUC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Darren B. <fat...@ya...> - 2010-02-05 22:37:06
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There doesn't seem to have been any activity in the last two years. Is this project still alive?
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From: Paul <pa...@tu...> - 2009-01-26 17:47:55
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On Monday 26 January 2009, Brendan Sleight wrote: > > Yes - I had a brief flirt with debian-live - Like many projects, it lacks > > documentation. > http://live.debian.net/manual/ I stand corrected - What I should have said was documentation distributed with the packages glossed over many of the details.. The online manual fills in many of the gaps. > http://live.debian.net/manual/html/meta.html#authors > .... * Brendan Sleight Now where have we seen that name before ? ;-) Regards, Paul. |
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From: Brendan S. <me...@ba...> - 2009-01-26 14:03:51
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On 26/01/2009, Paul wrote: > Yes - I had a brief flirt with debian-live - Like many projects, it lacks > documentation. http://live.debian.net/manual/ http://live.debian.net/manual/html/meta.html#authors .... * Brendan Sleight http://git.debian.org/?p=debian-live/live-manual.git;a=shortlog BMS |
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From: Paul <pa...@tu...> - 2009-01-26 13:04:27
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On Monday 26 January 2009, Alex de Landgraaf wrote: > > There may well be other issues needing to be resolved - The inclusion > > of assorted SATA/PATA drivers needs to be looked at. Should the h/w > > specific drivers go in the miniroot, or can we get away with just > > libata ? > > Technically we'd only need the CD/DVD drivers in the miniroot. If you > have a SATA DVD drive, I have had problems trying to boot from a SATA connected CDROM drive without the h/w specific driver loaded. As the old IDE code becomes deprecated and replaced with PATA code, I suspect a similar issue will arise. > > On the "random notes" front, I had a poke around isolinux (messing > > with d-i), and wondered if it might be worthwhile running the > > base.mod as a compressed archive booted with isolinux - If udebs > > were used (ala d-i) it may well be possible to generate a base > > ISO in under 10Megs. > > It used to be the case that we'd have to do quite a bit of voodoo in the > base module in order to get the main module configured and purring > along. This required quite a few dependencies, and a base that was too > big to push into RAM. So what do we actually do from within a base module ? Hardware detection, loading of a few assorted drivers, setting up the filesystem with unionfs/aufs and of course, the kernel it's self. The biggest chunk of this is the kernel, so some compromise would have to be made if it were to whittled down to a minimum - Then there is libc6 and the (relatively) bloated support libraries. There are ways and means of stripping these down, but as I look in to it further, it gets messy... > Between xorg autodetection, hal and udev there isn't a lot left nowadays > for hwsetup to do (aside generous amounts of RAM in even the cheapest > laptops). Stripping the base and putting it into the initrd is then the > logical step, what we would be left with would be comparable to > d-i/debian-live/casper (we could also simply use the debian-live scripts > and bolt on support for morphix main/mini modules, which would have my > preference). Yes - I had a brief flirt with debian-live - Like many projects, it lacks documentation. Building a base module with mmaker and adding casper/debian-live to the package list works quite well, but it needs a little bit of post-build scripting to get a finished CD. I'm not sure the tools that come with d-l (live-magic) have the flexability that mmaker has in producing a base/main module - That said, mmaker could benefit from a few small enhancements[1]. Regards, Paul. [1] Have added a nostrip option to a base.mod build, another feature that would be helpful is the ability to run pre/post commands when installing a package.. e.g. <package> kernel-image-2.6.32-dohicky <pre> mv /etc/kernel-img.conf /tmp</pre> <pre> echo do_symlink > /etc/kernel-img.conf</pre> <post> mv -f /tmp/kernel-img.conf /etc/</post> </package> > > Such a step would be quite a break from the past, but it's been a long > time coming. Hell, any excuse to drop cloop along the way is fine by me. > There are a few technical open questions (location of lkm's, mainmod > init scripts etc) but it should bring about a much simpler morphix that > requires a lot less babysitting. > > The main question is if such a switch is worthwhile compared to > switching to debian-live outright. > > cheers, > > Alex > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- This SF.net email is sponsored by: > SourcForge Community > SourceForge wants to tell your story. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword > _______________________________________________ > Morphix-devel mailing list > Mor...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/morphix-devel |
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From: Alex de L. <al...@de...> - 2009-01-26 01:18:57
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Back from the hills! Paul wrote: > A few (minor) changes have been made to the miniroot scripts, so we > will need some new udebs built - In testing, I notice linuxrc calls > on awk which duly fails... Need a busybox.udeb with awk built in. Ahh, so this was the real problem with copy-to-ram. Should have looked into it more closely, I'll get an updated busybox (with source) in the repository for tomorrow's build. > There may well be other issues needing to be resolved - The inclusion > of assorted SATA/PATA drivers needs to be looked at. Should the h/w > specific drivers go in the miniroot, or can we get away with just > libata ? Technically we'd only need the CD/DVD drivers in the miniroot. If you have a SATA DVD drive, I've packaged the changes you made to mkminiroot last week. If you update on Zathras you can try them out. > On the "random notes" front, I had a poke around isolinux (messing > with d-i), and wondered if it might be worthwhile running the > base.mod as a compressed archive booted with isolinux - If udebs > were used (ala d-i) it may well be possible to generate a base > ISO in under 10Megs. It used to be the case that we'd have to do quite a bit of voodoo in the base module in order to get the main module configured and purring along. This required quite a few dependencies, and a base that was too big to push into RAM. Between xorg autodetection, hal and udev there isn't a lot left nowadays for hwsetup to do (aside generous amounts of RAM in even the cheapest laptops). Stripping the base and putting it into the initrd is then the logical step, what we would be left with would be comparable to d-i/debian-live/casper (we could also simply use the debian-live scripts and bolt on support for morphix main/mini modules, which would have my preference). Such a step would be quite a break from the past, but it's been a long time coming. Hell, any excuse to drop cloop along the way is fine by me. There are a few technical open questions (location of lkm's, mainmod init scripts etc) but it should bring about a much simpler morphix that requires a lot less babysitting. The main question is if such a switch is worthwhile compared to switching to debian-live outright. cheers, Alex -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJfQGXQeuQA5TF/UsRArMEAJ46bTSihLkgsWXURHxBzVDqIEbLFQCeMaSC lzz22kbM1zi0i2g/e0Pvqns= =9RlX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Paul <pa...@tu...> - 2009-01-18 03:49:13
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On Friday 16 January 2009, Paul wrote: > Need a busybox.udeb with awk built in. /me adds to Alex's todo list... Grepping the linuxrc script, I also see `tr`, `tail`, and `sed` used but not available via busybox.. On the "random notes" front, I had a poke around isolinux (messing with d-i), and wondered if it might be worthwhile running the base.mod as a compressed archive booted with isolinux - If udebs were used (ala d-i) it may well be possible to generate a base ISO in under 10Megs. Regards, Paul. |
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From: Paul <pa...@tu...> - 2009-01-17 01:15:52
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(One for Alex when he returns from the hills) A few (minor) changes have been made to the miniroot scripts, so we will need some new udebs built - In testing, I notice linuxrc calls on awk which duly fails... Need a busybox.udeb with awk built in. There may well be other issues needing to be resolved - The inclusion of assorted SATA/PATA drivers needs to be looked at. Should the h/w specific drivers go in the miniroot, or can we get away with just libata ? Regards, Paul. |
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From: Paul <pa...@tu...> - 2009-01-17 00:17:28
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On Friday 16 January 2009, Paul wrote: > A few (minor) changes have been made to the miniroot scripts, so we will > need some new udebs built - In testing, I notice linuxrc calls on awk which > duly fails... Need a busybox.udeb with awk built in. On the subject of busybox, I noticed the original source tarball is missing from the Morphix repository - However, it is listed in the Sources, so I guess it may have been there at one time. Not a major issue as it is also available from: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2005/09/01/debian/pool/main/b/busybox/busybox_1.01.orig.tar.gz Regards, Paul. |
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From: Michiel S. <mo...@aq...> - 2008-09-08 20:56:14
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I put the latest (as of the 5th of September) KDE main module and base module together, tested it in an emulator, thought it worked quite fine and uploaded it here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/morphix/autobuilds/iso/ It's the morphix-kde-20080905.iso file of course, with the checksum in the corresponding morphix-kde-20080905.iso.md5sum This was done after a request in #morphix, but I intend to do the same for the Gnome and Lightgui versions (including some light testing) and will even try to get aquamorph into shape again (for really real(tm) this time. No, really!). That way we at least have some recent/pretty decent .iso's to refer new users to. Linkage from the morphix.org site will be updated accordingly. Cheers and happy Morphing, Michiel (aquatix) -- aquariusoft.org software | web log aquariusoft.org/~mbscholt morphix.org morphix | pgp aquariusoft.org/files/key.asc Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety - Benjamin Franklin |
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From: Brendan S. <bms...@ba...> - 2008-08-20 22:41:37
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Hi All, (Sorry if this is double post wrong to address) I put together a little python script, live-xmaker. [1][2][3]. Live-xmaker is a command line front-end to live-helper, inspired by morphix-mmaker[4][5] (written by Alex de Landgraaf). This allows all the configurations for a liveCD build to be specified in one XML file. For example:- live-xmaker --xml /usr/share/live-xmaker/templates/lightgui_all.xml --output ./lightgui.iso 1: http://autotesting.livecd.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=live-xmaker.git;a=summary 2: git clone git://autotesting.livecd.org/git/live-xmaker.git 3: http://autotesting.livecd.org/debs/live-xmaker_0.1-1_i386.deb 4: http://www.morphix.org 5: http://www.morphix.org/doc/how_tos/all_man_pages/html/ar01s07.html Example templates show what options are currently from a complex example [6] to more simple examples[7][8]. 6: http://autotesting.livecd.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=live-xmaker.git;a=blob_plain;f=templates/lightgui_all.xml 7: http://autotesting.livecd.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=live-xmaker.git;a=blob_plain;f=templates/lightgui.xml 8: http://autotesting.livecd.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=live-xmaker.git;a=blob_plain;f=templates/very-simple-xfce.xml I plan to update live-xmaker with all the possible options available via live-helper. Feedback is very welcome. I have also cc'ed the morphix-developers mailing list as it may pique the interest of follow morphers. Enjoy, Brendan M. Sleight |
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From: Brendan S. <bm...@ba...> - 2008-08-20 22:40:09
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Hi All, I put together a little python script, live-xmaker. [1][2][3]. Live-xmaker is a command line front-end to live-helper, inspired by morphix-mmaker[4][5] (written by Alex de Landgraaf). This allows all the configurations for a liveCD build to be specified in one XML file. For example:- live-xmaker --xml /usr/share/live-xmaker/templates/lightgui_all.xml --output ./lightgui.iso 1: http://autotesting.livecd.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=live-xmaker.git;a=summary 2: git clone git://autotesting.livecd.org/git/live-xmaker.git 3: http://autotesting.livecd.org/debs/live-xmaker_0.1-1_i386.deb 4: http://www.morphix.org 5: http://www.morphix.org/doc/how_tos/all_man_pages/html/ar01s07.html Example templates show what options are currently from a complex example [6] to more simple examples[7][8]. 6: http://autotesting.livecd.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=live-xmaker.git;a=blob_plain;f=templates/lightgui_all.xml 7: http://autotesting.livecd.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=live-xmaker.git;a=blob_plain;f=templates/lightgui.xml 8: http://autotesting.livecd.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=live-xmaker.git;a=blob_plain;f=templates/very-simple-xfce.xml I plan to update live-xmaker with all the possible options available via live-helper. Feedback is very welcome. I have also cc'ed the morphix-developers mailing list as it may pique the interest of follow morphers. Enjoy, Brendan M. Sleight |
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From: Michiel S. <mo...@aq...> - 2008-07-18 07:31:03
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Re-sent as I accidentially sent it with another address which is being moderated. On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:25:51 +0100 "Brendan Sleight" <me...@ba...> wrote: > I forgot to mount extra memory for qmeu. AutoTesting is now back. > Rejoice, Rejoice, Rejoice. And as always: Brendan rocks :) Cheers! -- aquariusoft.org software | web log aquariusoft.org/~mbscholt morphix.org morphix | pgp aquariusoft.org/files/key.asc Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety - Benjamin Franklin |
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From: Brendan S. <me...@ba...> - 2008-07-11 17:25:55
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I forgot to mount extra memory for qmeu. AutoTesting is now back. Rejoice, Rejoice, Rejoice. http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/morphix/autobuilds/video/?C=M;O=D http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/morphix/autobuilds/video/morphix-kde-2008-07-11_0026.mod_basemod-2.6.17-2008-07-11_0015.iso.ogg.jpg http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/morphix/autobuilds/video/morphix-kde-2008-07-11_0026.mod_basemod-2.6.23-2008-07-11_0018.iso.ogg.jpg |
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