Re: [Mlipod-devel] Changing distribution for other languages
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From: Pierre [ Todae.fr | Toutfr.c. ] <rg1...@gm...> - 2008-01-17 16:37:40
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VC++6 for what exactly ? Because actually I keep translating the resource file with Dreamweaver or notepad. CVS clients... I've tried some times to use it but I really never succeeded to use it... so if I can avoid it I will, else you will have to help me to use it :D 2008/1/16, Achim Bursian <ab...@si...>: > > Cool. > Do you have VC++6 and a CVS client (like TortoiseCVS or WinCVS) available > on your PC That's not necessary, but it would make things much easier. > > Pierre [ Todae.fr | Toutfr.com ] wrote: > > I already know a little how to use NSIS. And if I have a problem for a > specific thing (a customized page or something else, I know someone who k= now > well NSIS, he will be able to help me in case of). > Juste give me what pages I have to include (licence, selection of which > language to install etc). > Then the steps after : > - connect to ... > - update ... > etc > > 2008/1/16, Achim Bursian <ab...@si...>: > > > > Great, thanks Pierre! > > The first step for you is to download and install NSIS. You can do that > > right now: > > http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Download > > > > Cheers, > > Achim > > > > Pierre [ Todae.fr | Toutfr.com ] wrote: > > > > I think I can do that... > > So, prepare your release, give me each step to release the translation > > pack and that will be ok. > > > > Pierre > > > > 2008/1/16, Achim Bursian < ab...@si...>: > > > > > > Don't know yet :-) That depends on how we set this up for the > > > different languages. > > > At the moment, see http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/wiki/Developer%27s_c= orner#To_do_for_a_new_release > > > > > > > > > It'll be mainly creating a new installer with NSIS whenever a new > > > language comes in, uploading it to SourceForge (via a web interface), > > > editing some kind of text file that describes the included languages,= and > > > some other file that will be read by the updater mechanism. These fil= es will > > > have to be uploaded to SourceForge via sftp. That's probably it... > > > > > > Pierre [ Todae.fr | Toutfr.com ] wrote: > > > > > > What would be exactly the stuff to do ? Put the translation files on = a > > > ftp and... something else ? Update a page ? Anything else ? > > > > > > 2008/1/16, Achim Bursian < ab...@si...>: > > > > > > > > Sounds reasonable to me. > > > > The only problem is: That puts all the burdon on my shoulders. > > > > Uploading stuff to SourceForge is an enerving process, the site is = often > > > > down or quite slow, and you have to type a lot of stuff. > > > > So it would be necessary to automate this process a bit. > > > > > > > > The other problem are notifications: Non-English users woulkd get a > > > > notification in Winamp that a new ml_ipod version is ready for down= load, > > > > simply to see that it is not available in their language yet. So it= would be > > > > necessary to have separate version information for all languages on= the > > > > update URL - another task for me :( > > > > > > > > Would anybody like to step in here and do the release work? I'd lik= e > > > > to concentrate on the programming stuff. > > > > There is not very much needed to do it, just the time, and a sftp > > > > client (like WinScp, ore filezilla) > > > > > > > > -Achim > > > > > > > > rdi...@ya... wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all: > > > > > > > > I'm new here, I'm doing the first Spanish translation. > > > > > > > > The problem is, it always takes a (too) long time to create > > > > a new release, mainly because of all the translations. > > > > I see two choices here: > > > > > > > > I can understand Achim's point of view, as I recently had the same= problem, only the other way round: I was trying to finish the translation = for the last released version (3.02), only to realise that the English reso= urce file had already moved on. I would have preferred to release a > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.02 with the Spanish translation before moving up to the next rele= ase. > > > > > > > > Last time I looked, Winamp came with a new Spanish translation, and= the standard iPod plug-in this time worked fine. I would try to keep thing= s a easy as possible, and I feel that separate downloads would simply drive= more people away. Many of the Spanish users I know do not want to go throu= gh a first installation in English before installing the Spanish language a= dd-on, a single download is always better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about respinning older releases as new translations come along? > > > > > > > > In the end, the user has to decide whether he wants the latest vers= ion in English, or the last translated version in Spanish/whatever. That's = easy enough to grasp if the Web site has download links like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ml_ipod 3.02 (English only at the moment) > > > > ml_ipod 2.00 (English, Spanish, French, German, ...) > > > > > > > > Say the French translator is faster, and the German and Spanish one= s still lag behind. The next iteration could then be (for example): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ml_ipod 3.1 (English only at the moment) > > > > ml_ipod 3.03 (English and French only at the moment) > > > > ml_ipod 2.00 (English, Spanish, French, German, ...) > > > > > > > > It's a bit more development work (we need to respin old releases ev= ery now and then), but I would be easier for the end-users to see at a glan= ce what the status is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ruben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Ihr erstes Fernweh? 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