From: Daniel S. <das...@mi...> - 2017-01-18 12:51:17
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Yes, we should not follow Traktor to model N Type of hardware mixers. We may let us inspire from the solutions out there and build a well suited set of Mixxx EQs, that covers the most important use cases for Mixxx. Providing a generic EQ builder sounds cool but it is ambiguous, since we are facing a lot of degrees of freedom. In case of Biquad EQ types, such a generic EQ will always be a chain of Filters. So your request is basically the same what Be has suggested with chaining other effects. We could add a n-Pole parameter to our isolator EQs, but I am In doubt if we actually need to be that flexible. It will finally increase the number of possible EQs even more. >From my experiences from my past work on the current solution, most users just do not care about the EQ details. It is also interesting, that we had not a single complain about a missing conventional EQ option even though it is the most common one on Hardware. It seams that most users are pretty happy with an isolator type. This matches also what I can read in forums discussing EQs. However, I still think we have some gaps in our EQ Zoo: * A XONE:92 like EQ * A conventional Biquad EQ (PR is pending) * A 12 dB/Oct isolator ?? Where the IMHO the XONE:92 is not famous because its 4 Band. It is famous, because it combines an 2 Band ISO with a 2 Band EQ, the best of two worlds. Interestingly this device is an icon, because the successors with 4-Bands do not offer full kill. Maybe the required hardware circuit was just too expensive or complicated. A sweeping Bell EQ like the play differently could be also fun. An other use case for sweeping EQs is to ring out Microphones. 2017-01-18 9:32 GMT+01:00 Ferran Pujol Camins <fer...@gm...>: > I'm afraid we will end up with lots of EQs: generic EQs that only differ > on slope or number of bands + eqs that mimic a specific hardware mixer. > Thats confusing. > > AFAIK there's two kinds of EQ we are talking about: > > 1-EQs based on a crossover > 2-EQs that are a combination of filters low/hi pass, bell...) > > It's hard to fit both kinds under the same general structure. But maybe we > can think of providing a general type of EQ for each. > > 1) A crossover EQ parametrizable by number of bands and slope. > 2) A parametric EQ where filters of different kind can be added > > "xone 92 eq", "Model 1 eq" would then become presets of 2) > > What do you think? 2) is ambitious, but I think 1) is realistic and we > would already reduce the number of available EQs. > > On 17 Jan 2017 3:41 a.m., "Be" <be...@gm...> wrote: > >> In addition to emulating the Xone:92, it would be fun to have an EQ >> emulating the PLAYdifferently Model 1, which also uses 4 knobs: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/1581721 >> >> On 01/16/2017 06:47 AM, Ferran Pujol Camins wrote: >> > Following discussion in https://github.com/mixxxdj/mixxx/pull/1007 >> > >> > Reusing the Qick effect knob for the fourth EQ band, Is IMO very >> handy >> > because it works for the Controller and for the GUI. The GUI still >> > matches 1:1 to the controller. >> > >> > We have also discussed to use the gain knob as fourth EQ band. If we >> > consider that, we need to decouple the GUI/Controller form the >> > Internal CO values from the engine and allow to set a mapping form >> > the EQ preferences. >> > >> > I prefer this over scripting solution, since it will be "midi >> > leanable" and it do not requires to touch all mappings, except >> > changing the names to the new mappable knobs. >> > >> > But you loose either the gain knob or the Quick Effect knob. I want both >> > of them :) >> > >> > IMHO shrinking the knobs so they fit in the same space when n=4 is >> > possible. Again, Traktor does it. >> > >> > Suppose that the 4 knobs can satisfactorily be fit in each skin. >> > Wouldn't you prefer this over loosing gain or Quick Effect knob? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------ >> > Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors >> > Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. >> > With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. >> > Training and support from Colfax. >> > Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> > http://mixxx.org >> > >> > >> > Mixxx-devel mailing list >> > Mix...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> http://mixxx.org >> >> >> Mixxx-devel mailing list >> Mix...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today > http://mixxx.org > > > Mixxx-devel mailing list > Mix...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel > |