[mh] New MH release - was RE: using web setup causes mh to fail to startup -

[Neil W. <ne...@nw...>]

Hi All,

Just to ask the questions again, why are we worrying about a new major MH
release with a new version number and release date?
If it is to try and entice more people in to using this great program, then
we need to cater for the fact that a large percentage of these people are
not programmers and they need basic things like the MH web interface to set
up their system.

I think this is a very important area of MH and is where a lot of people
would first start out i.e. trying to add in new hardware items.
To have failures at this very early part of their MH experience would be a
major turn OFF and a dropping of the application.

I was a programmer by trade, primarily Pascal, but I have stuck my fingers
into C, Basic, Perl etc.
So when I also tried MH's web interface to add my xPL or xAP items and
failed, I was able to get around this in code.

My friend that I'm trying to get into MH, is a Airframe engineer with a
degree in Mechanical engineering (no dummy).
Yet he would be unable to program in these items as I have.

So Marc, I feel these very things are what we need to concentrate on.
Not the below -
>>1) edit the file by hand instead of using the web editor 
>>(what most of us do)
Who knows what the parameters are supposed to be ????? In the items file?

P.S. My friend also has a Cbus system covering his whole house and I would
love to get MH looking after it. But honestly the Cbus Pac controller code
appears to be much easier for the layman than trying to automate things in
MH's Perl.

Regards, 

Neil Wrightson. 

 

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Marc MERLIN [mailto:ma...@me...] 
>>Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011 2:18 PM
>>To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program
>>Subject: Re: [mh] using web setup causes mh to fail to startup
>>
>>On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 10:12:39PM -0600, illum wrote:
>>> After using the web setup to add a device and remove some of the 
>>> premade test devices, mh became unstartable.
>>> 
>>> 07/02/11 07:35:51 PM Evaluating user code
>>> 07/02/11 07:35:51 PM Oops1: Bareword found where operator 
>>expected at 
>>> (eval 105) line 64, near "$2nd_bedroom_lamp"
>>> 07/02/11 07:35:51 PM Oops1:     (Missing operator before
>>> nd_bedroom_lamp?)
>>> 07/02/11 07:35:51 PM Oops1: String found where operator expected at 
>>> (eval 105) line 64, near "$, '16.94.93'"
>>> 
>>> and so on. Why does mh apparently have problems parsing what the 
>>> config scripts written and created through the web setup? 
>>Am I doing 
>>> something wrong when I added the single insteon device?
>>
>>You may not be, it is just htat I don't think many of us use 
>>the web setup and it may very well be somewhat buggy.
>>
>>So your options are:
>>1) edit the file by hand instead of using the web editor 
>>(what most of us do)
>>2) find someone who still maintains the code you used and who would be
>>   willing to fix it (what you tried, but I'm not sure anyone is).
>>3) you dig in the mh code and fix it yourself :)
>>
>>misterhouse gives you a lot, but also takes some in return 
>>from time to fime
>>:)
>>
>>Marc
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