From: Peter H <pet...@ho...> - 2006-06-29 04:05:55
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Hi, I am a real novice when it comes to MinGW and MSYS, so apologies if this is not the appropriate group. This query is related to the correct installation process to use when I want to use MSYS with MinGW. The first question is which category should I use from the Downloads page. I assumed the "Current" category represents the latest stable version and the "Proposed category is for newer possibly unstable releases. Is that the case? This would be consistent with most other package releases. Secondly, how should the two packages be installed? The Instal notes on the Downloads page state that if I plan to use MSYS then install it first then install MinGW into the <msys-prefix>/mingw directory. In the "Installing MinGW" How To, however, there is a warning stating "For versions prior to MSYS 1.0.11; do not install MinGW into the same path as MSYS..." Unfortunately, the "Current" category of files only has MSYS 1.0.10. MSYS 1.0.11 is only listed in the snapshot category, which again I assume to be potentially unstable. If I use 1.0.10 which instruction takes preference, and if I use 1.0.11, am I asking for trouble in it possibly being unstable? Along the same lines, there are posts now talking about MinGW-5.0.2 (and 3), but again they are only in the Proposed category, so are the recommended stable versions 3.1.0-1 from the Current category or 5.0.3? Sorry about the length of this, but as I said, I'm new to it... and confused. _________________________________________________________________ Find lost friends & family online! Search for free. http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=389&referral=HM_tagline&URL=http://ninemsn.schoolfriends.com.au |
From: Michael G. <mg...@te...> - 2006-06-29 05:49:55
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Hi Peter ! You may want to check out the MinGWiki (to be found under http://www.mingw.org/MinGWiki/index.php) and there in particular http://www.mingw.org/MinGWiki/index.php/GettingStarted Apart from that: *I* do use the candidate releases in a production environment for a long time now. IMO they are stable and in fact do fix one or the other problem that's present in the "current" release. I also use MSYS 1.0.11 for ages. HTH, best, Michael =2D-=20 Vote against SPAM - see http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ Michael Gerdau email: mg...@te... GPG-keys available on request or at public keyserver |
From: Peter H <pet...@ho...> - 2006-06-29 07:51:30
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Michael, Thank you for those helpful comments. I will use the candidate release also. Still not sure about the order. I had gobe through those docs along with all the others. The second doc you mention (GettingStarted) also references another one (RealDumbQuickstart at http://www.mingw.org/MinGWiki/index.php/RealDumbQuickstart) that seems to contradict it, but I suspect that GettingStarted is more accurate. Thanks again for the help. Peter >From: Michael Gerdau <mg...@te...> >Reply-To: mg...@te...,MinGW Users List ><min...@li...> >To: MinGW Users List <min...@li...> >Subject: Re: [Mingw-users] Installation query >Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:50:07 +0200 > >Hi Peter ! > >You may want to check out the MinGWiki (to be found under >http://www.mingw.org/MinGWiki/index.php) and there in particular >http://www.mingw.org/MinGWiki/index.php/GettingStarted > >Apart from that: >*I* do use the candidate releases in a production environment for >a long time now. IMO they are stable and in fact do fix one or the >other problem that's present in the "current" release. > >I also use MSYS 1.0.11 for ages. > >HTH, best, >Michael >-- > Vote against SPAM - see http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ > Michael Gerdau email: mg...@te... > GPG-keys available on request or at public keyserver ><< attach4 >> >Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job >easier >Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >_______________________________________________ >MinGW-users mailing list >Min...@li... > >You may change your MinGW Account Options or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mingw-users _________________________________________________________________ New year, new job there's more than 100,00 jobs at SEEK http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=752315885&_r=Jan05_tagline&_m=EXT |
From: Michael G. <mg...@te...> - 2006-06-29 08:17:15
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> Still not sure about the order. I had gobe through those docs along with= =20 > all the others. The second doc you mention (GettingStarted) also referen= ces=20 > another one (RealDumbQuickstart at=20 > http://www.mingw.org/MinGWiki/index.php/RealDumbQuickstart) that seems to= =20 > contradict it, but I suspect that GettingStarted is more accurate. Just had a look at RealDumbQuickstart. I think (and that's just guessing) the rationale behind installing msys prior to mingw is that a stock windows system simply has no tar or gzip which is required to install the later, at least when using the manual approach. I personally *always* install mingw prior to msys and I always install manually but then I'm never working (seriously) on a windows system that has no tar, gzip and a couple of other IMO required **ix tools. I seem to recall from the msys installation that it asks for the path to the mingw installation to set up an initial environment but that is old and possibly outdated info. Best, Michael =2D-=20 Vote against SPAM - see http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ Michael Gerdau email: mg...@te... GPG-keys available on request or at public keyserver |
From: Keith M. <kei...@to...> - 2006-06-29 08:45:06
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Peter H wrote: > Still not sure about the order [install MinGW or MSYS first]... Peter, You can install in either order; it doesn't really matter. I've always understood that it is easier to install MinGW first; it doesn't *need* to be installed in /msys/mingw, and in fact, the default is C:/MinGW; (I have mine in D:/MinGW). When you install MSYS, the installer will ask where you installed MinGW, and provided it finds it where you say, it will automatically define an fstab reference to point /mingw to it. If you defer the MinGW installation until after the MSYS installation, then you will have to add that reference to /etc/fstab manually. When you install MinGW or MSYS, it's generally best to accept the default locations; (change the device root from C: to D:, or any other device you prefer, but otherwise leave the path unchanged). In particular, *never* install under "Program Files", (nor any other path with spaces in its name); that is surely asking for trouble further down the line. The caveat about installing MinGW within the MSYS tree applies specifically to the <msys-root>/bin and <msys-root>/usr/bin directories; with all versions prior to msys-1.0.11, it was not permitted to place non-MSYS binaries, (including MinGW's), in either of these directories. If you simply accept the defaults in both cases, all will be well; if you specify something other than the defaults, then just be sure that you specify something different for each: i.e. <msys-root> is the path you tell the MSYS installer to use, (default = C:/msys/1.0), and <mingw-root> is what you specify for MinGW, (default = C:/MinGW); you *must* ensure that <mingw-root> != <msys-root>, if you are using MSYS prior to 1.0.11. BTW, I would agree with Michael: MSYS 1.0.11 has had a long enough run as `Candidate', to be considered stable. We expect it to be promoted to `Current' RSN, (when Earnie finds time). HTH, Keith. |