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From: Xiaofan C. <xia...@gm...> - 2011-04-27 01:11:07
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Earnie <ea...@us...> wrote: > Jim Bell wrote: >> >> I say we cut this loose, or put it in a conditional compile if someone >> wanted to build it for ancient platforms. > > We've never supported anything less than Windows 95 anyway and anything > less than Windows XP is questionable to work at this point. > Regarding the OS support of MinGW, is this (Windows 2000 support is questionable) the official stand of MinGW project? I asked in the MinGW-w64 project and the answer there is that MinGW-w64 support of Windows 2000 is YMMV. But this is the first time I hear that it is similar for MinGW. I understand that not many people care about Windows 98SE and Windows ME now and it is difficult to support them. But I thought MinGW will continue to support Windows 2000 -- not that I care about Windows 2000 myself but there are quite some users who care about Windows 2000 from libusb-win32 (where I am an admin mainly in the testing and support side) and libusb-1.0 (where I am an active participant in testing) project. -- Xiaofan |
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From: Earnie <ea...@us...> - 2011-04-27 11:37:46
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Xiaofan Chen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Earnie <ea...@us...> wrote: >> Jim Bell wrote: >>> >>> I say we cut this loose, or put it in a conditional compile if someone >>> wanted to build it for ancient platforms. >> >> We've never supported anything less than Windows 95 anyway and anything >> less than Windows XP is questionable to work at this point. >> > > Regarding the OS support of MinGW, is this (Windows 2000 support is > questionable) the official stand of MinGW project? > Questionable is because no MinGW developer is using anything less than XP that I am aware of. We try to support any MSDN documented API, so if it is documented to the point we can create the necessary declarations and import definitions then we support it. We do not go rummaging through the MSDN ourselves but wait until someone needs a missing API to add to the MinGW API. -- Earnie -- http://www.for-my-kids.com |
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From: Earnie <ea...@us...> - 2011-04-27 16:22:06
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NightStrike wrote: > Right now, we (mw64) do not support anything older than XP. That > means that mingw.org is the only place for people to turn for older > OSes. You might want to consider that, if there are still users out > there that need this support. Years ago I polled this list for who was using Win9x and kept asking occasionally until no one was. But again, we should follow the thinking of GCC maintainers about the issue and I would think they would have difficulty in saying they are supporting anything older than XP just because none would be using it to do testing. -- Earnie -- http://www.for-my-kids.com |
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From: NightStrike <nig...@gm...> - 2011-04-27 16:55:36
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Earnie <ea...@us...> wrote: > NightStrike wrote: >> Right now, we (mw64) do not support anything older than XP. That >> means that mingw.org is the only place for people to turn for older >> OSes. You might want to consider that, if there are still users out >> there that need this support. > > Years ago I polled this list for who was using Win9x and kept asking > occasionally until no one was. But again, we should follow the thinking > of GCC maintainers about the issue and I would think they would have > difficulty in saying they are supporting anything older than XP just > because none would be using it to do testing. Well, right now, I'm the only one doing mingw GCC testing :) |
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From: Xiaofan C. <xia...@gm...> - 2011-04-28 02:29:26
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On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:55 AM, NightStrike <nig...@gm...> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Earnie <ea...@us...> wrote: >> NightStrike wrote: >>> Right now, we (mw64) do not support anything older than XP. That >>> means that mingw.org is the only place for people to turn for older >>> OSes. You might want to consider that, if there are still users out >>> there that need this support. >> >> Years ago I polled this list for who was using Win9x and kept asking >> occasionally until no one was. But again, we should follow the thinking >> of GCC maintainers about the issue and I would think they would have >> difficulty in saying they are supporting anything older than XP just >> because none would be using it to do testing. > > Well, right now, I'm the only one doing mingw GCC testing :) I think very few would care for Win9x (including 98SE and ME). But there seem to be some users who are still using Win2k (there are people in the libusb mailing list who still ask for Win2k along with MSVC 6 support). Do you test Win2k? I think if Win2k support is not there, it is also not a big problem, after all, Win2k is no longer supported by Microsoft and it is so old. But hopefully this is clearly documented. -- Xiaofan |
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From: NightStrike <nig...@gm...> - 2011-04-28 02:55:12
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Xiaofan Chen <xia...@gm...> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:55 AM, NightStrike <nig...@gm...> wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Earnie <ea...@us...> wrote: >>> NightStrike wrote: >>>> Right now, we (mw64) do not support anything older than XP. That >>>> means that mingw.org is the only place for people to turn for older >>>> OSes. You might want to consider that, if there are still users out >>>> there that need this support. >>> >>> Years ago I polled this list for who was using Win9x and kept asking >>> occasionally until no one was. But again, we should follow the thinking >>> of GCC maintainers about the issue and I would think they would have >>> difficulty in saying they are supporting anything older than XP just >>> because none would be using it to do testing. >> >> Well, right now, I'm the only one doing mingw GCC testing :) > > I think very few would care for Win9x (including 98SE and ME). > But there seem to be some users who are still using Win2k > (there are people in the libusb mailing list who still ask for > Win2k along with MSVC 6 support). Do you test Win2k? I do not. I also do not know of anyone who does. > I think if Win2k support is not there, it is also not a big problem, > after all, Win2k is no longer supported by Microsoft and it is > so old. But hopefully this is clearly documented. |
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