From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2003-11-28 18:36:31
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=2309141 By: derekbaker Never mind- got the official upgrade working now. See here: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=2309139 Derek ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=286529 |
From: Wu Y. <ad...@ne...> - 2003-12-01 02:58:22
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Danny, It seems the guy just built the packages without making changes, and he provided links to all the original sites. According to my understanding (which might be wrong) of the GPL, I doubt it is not a violation. Best regards, Wu Yongwei --- Original Message from Danny Smith --- > http://www63.tok2.com/home/bitwalk/download.html > > > I am having trouble upgrading to gcc3.3.1 with the official packages, but can > with this one. It is from a credible supplier? > The 'unofficial' packages you mention may be credible and have all good intenstions, but they violate the GPL because as far as I can see, they do not provide sources. If the bitwalk does not correct this, I intend to report to the FSF GPL vioation site. Danny |
From: <dan...@ya...> - 2003-12-01 08:17:28
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--- Wu Yongwei <ad...@ne...> wrote: > Danny, > > It seems the guy just built the packages without making changes, and he > provided links to all the original sites. According to my understanding > (which might be wrong) of the GPL, I doubt it is not a violation. > Sorry, providing links to someone else's site is not sufficient. See here: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html I've been through this before. There are good reason why _only_ pointing to another site is not sufficient. Danny > Best regards, > > Wu Yongwei > > --- Original Message from Danny Smith --- > > > http://www63.tok2.com/home/bitwalk/download.html > > > > > > I am having trouble upgrading to gcc3.3.1 with the official packages, > but can > > with this one. It is from a credible supplier? > > > > The 'unofficial' packages you mention may be credible and have all good > intenstions, but they violate the GPL because as far as I can see, they > do not > provide sources. > > If the bitwalk does not correct this, I intend to report to the FSF GPL > vioation site. > > Danny > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it > help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help > YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > MinGW-users mailing list > Min...@li... > > You may change your MinGW Account Options or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mingw-users http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. |
From: Miroslav F. <cx...@nt...> - 2003-12-01 10:01:49
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> Sorry, providing links to someone else's site is not sufficient. > See here: > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html > > I've been through this before. There are good reason why _only_ pointing to > another site is not sufficient. Well, this seems to be somewhat interesting to me... I plan to release something like Dev-C++ (integrated development system), acompanied with mingw. Am I required to ship mingw sources with it, even if I didnot ever downloaded them ? My only purpose of shipping with mingw is that I want to make installation easy for user... Mirek |
From: Earnie B. <ea...@us...> - 2003-12-01 13:08:25
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Miroslav Fidler wrote: > > I plan to release something like Dev-C++ (integrated development system), > acompanied with mingw. > > Am I required to ship mingw sources with it, even if I didnot ever > downloaded them ? My only purpose of shipping with mingw is that I want to > make installation easy for user... > The easiest method to stay compliant with all of the various licenses used with MinGW is to include the sources with your distribution. Earnie. -- http://www.mingw.org <http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw> |
From: Miroslav F. <cx...@nt...> - 2003-12-01 18:36:49
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> > Am I required to ship mingw sources with it, even if I didnot ever > > downloaded them ? My only purpose of shipping with mingw is that I want to > > make installation easy for user... > > > > The easiest method to stay compliant with all of the various licenses > used with MinGW is to include the sources with your distribution. That will possibly be pretty weird, as my downloadables will be placed on sourcefourge, same place where MinGW sources are... Do I really have to copy MinGW sources to my ftp subdir ? :) Mirek |
From: Earnie B. <ea...@us...> - 2003-12-02 10:37:26
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Miroslav Fidler wrote: >>>Am I required to ship mingw sources with it, even if I didnot ever >>>downloaded them ? My only purpose of shipping with mingw is that I want > > to > >>>make installation easy for user... >>> >> >>The easiest method to stay compliant with all of the various licenses >>used with MinGW is to include the sources with your distribution. > > > That will possibly be pretty weird, as my downloadables will be placed on > sourcefourge, same place where MinGW sources are... Do I really have to copy > MinGW sources to my ftp subdir ? :) > Unfortunately, yes. If you don't like that then don't distribute the binaries but point to the existing binaries on other pages. Another method would be to use an installer type such as NSIS and have it go download the various pieces and combine things together for you. Earnie -- http://www.mingw.org <http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw> |
From: Miroslav F. <cx...@nt...> - 2003-12-02 11:19:59
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> Unfortunately, yes. If you don't like that then don't distribute the > binaries but point to the existing binaries on other pages. Another > method would be to use an installer type such as NSIS and have it go > download the various pieces and combine things together for you. OK. I will follow mingw-gcc relationship pattern.... (providing GCC packages in the same place). If only there would be some direct copy or link possible on source-forge :) Mirek |
From: Earnie B. <ea...@us...> - 2003-12-02 13:31:23
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Miroslav Fidler wrote: > > If only there would be some direct copy or link possible on source-forge > :) > Suggest an RFE with the SF project. It is a needed feature IMO. Earnie -- http://www.mingw.org <http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw> |
From: Miroslav F. <cx...@nt...> - 2003-12-02 13:35:27
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> Suggest an RFE with the SF project. It is a needed feature IMO. RFE ? Mirek |
From: Mikael A. <mik...@te...> - 2003-12-02 14:00:33
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Request Feature.... http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1&atid=350001 Mikael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miroslav Fidler" <cx...@nt...> To: <min...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Mingw-users] Re: Am I required to ship sources? > > Suggest an RFE with the SF project. It is a needed feature IMO. > > RFE ? > > Mirek > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it > help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help > YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > MinGW-users mailing list > Min...@li... > > You may change your MinGW Account Options or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mingw-users |
From: Earnie B. <ea...@us...> - 2003-12-02 18:01:39
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The menu item at the top of the SF project page is RFE. Request For Enhancement. Earnie. Miroslav Fidler wrote: >>Suggest an RFE with the SF project. It is a needed feature IMO. > > > RFE ? > > Mirek > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it > help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help > YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > MinGW-users mailing list > Min...@li... > > You may change your MinGW Account Options or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mingw-users > -- http://www.mingw.org <http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw> |
From: <dan...@ya...> - 2003-12-01 19:46:41
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--- Miroslav Fidler <cx...@nt...> wrote: > > Sorry, providing links to someone else's site is not sufficient. > > See here: > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html > > > > I've been through this before. There are good reason why _only_ pointing > to > > another site is not sufficient. > > Well, this seems to be somewhat interesting to me... > > I plan to release something like Dev-C++ (integrated development system), > acompanied with mingw. > > Am I required to ship mingw sources with it, even if I didnot ever > downloaded them ? My only purpose of shipping with mingw is that I want to > make installation easy for user... The mingw runtime and w32api packages are not licensed, Everything else is. You don't have to ship sources with GPL'd binaries. You have to make the sources available. If the soutces are not distributed with the binaries, you have to include a written offer to provide the sources. You can't expect someone else to pay for the bandwidth for downloading the sources. You can't expect someone else to maintain the source packages for you. That's my understanding, anyway. A simple way to find out if you are doing the right thing is to ask the folk at http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html if what you are doing or plan to do is compliant. Danny > > Mirek > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it > help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help > YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > MinGW-users mailing list > Min...@li... > > You may change your MinGW Account Options or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mingw-users http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. |