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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-12-19 04:03:52
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hi all- i'm moving my server to a smaller host, so i will not be able to host the virtual server any more. The switchover will happen on the 25th. I don't have space to hold the virtual server image on any of my computers at the moment (its 40gb, although that's mostly empty space), so after the switchover the image will be deleted. i can't remember if there's much of value on there, but if anyone wants to download the whole image i can tar it up and make it available, just email me. -Michael |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-07-15 18:49:28
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Any word on whether we can salvage the main website? On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Scott Shawcroft < sco...@co...> wrote: > Hi all, > Michael, Jason and I went to the SocialMediaCamp today. It went well. > I presented our ideas and got some good interest in the project. > > Michael also brought up the idea of focusing on a web client first. I > know I probably shot it down in the past but I think its a good idea > now. I definitely think a client program in the future could work > really well but we need to focus more closely on fewer things. > > Furthermore, I've begun considering trying for the fifth year masters > program. However, Michael pointed out that the further along we are > technically when we want to proceed fulltime, the better off we will be. > > So where do we stand? The project is going to move forward. We can > begin officially organizing, gathering an alpha artist group and > continue developing the software. In fact, Michael, Eric, Jason and I > are beginning to work on it more. Eric is making the p2p protocol > better, Michael is putting the site together (test.banda-project.org) > and Jason is exploring API options. I'm doing this and thinking about > the list of launch features. > Cheers, > Scott > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness > and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Scott S. <sco...@co...> - 2008-07-13 05:59:19
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Hi all, Michael, Jason and I went to the SocialMediaCamp today. It went well. I presented our ideas and got some good interest in the project. Michael also brought up the idea of focusing on a web client first. I know I probably shot it down in the past but I think its a good idea now. I definitely think a client program in the future could work really well but we need to focus more closely on fewer things. Furthermore, I've begun considering trying for the fifth year masters program. However, Michael pointed out that the further along we are technically when we want to proceed fulltime, the better off we will be. So where do we stand? The project is going to move forward. We can begin officially organizing, gathering an alpha artist group and continue developing the software. In fact, Michael, Eric, Jason and I are beginning to work on it more. Eric is making the p2p protocol better, Michael is putting the site together (test.banda-project.org) and Jason is exploring API options. I'm doing this and thinking about the list of launch features. Cheers, Scott |
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From: Scott S. <sco...@co...> - 2008-07-09 01:44:23
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Some other means, I was thinking as community outreach. We could do it at schools and our office. Its a way of getting more people locally involved. ~Scott Michael Frank wrote: > Scott Shawcroft wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Eric's been working on Articles of Incorporation and the bylaws for >> Banda Media (plain Banda is taken for organizations). He asked me to do >> a purpose statement here is what I got: >> >> The purpose of Banda Media is to help artistic communities worldwide >> thrive. Through the development of efficient distribution software, >> Banda Media aims to help artists maximize their revenue. Furthermore, >> through technical and art education, Banda Media aims to build richer, >> more self-reliant local communities to participate in the global community. >> >> > That sounds pretty good. I'm a bit mystified by the "technical and art > education" part tho. Is this referring to the application itself, > meaning the act of using the product will educate the user about art > (local bands) and technology (p2p)? Or are we going to provide this > education through some other means? > > |
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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-07-08 20:55:58
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Scott Shawcroft wrote:
> Hi all,
> Eric's been working on Articles of Incorporation and the bylaws for
> Banda Media (plain Banda is taken for organizations). He asked me to do
> a purpose statement here is what I got:
>
> The purpose of Banda Media is to help artistic communities worldwide
> thrive. Through the development of efficient distribution software,
> Banda Media aims to help artists maximize their revenue. Furthermore,
> through technical and art education, Banda Media aims to build richer,
> more self-reliant local communities to participate in the global community.
>
That sounds pretty good. I'm a bit mystified by the "technical and art
education" part tho. Is this referring to the application itself,
meaning the act of using the product will educate the user about art
(local bands) and technology (p2p)? Or are we going to provide this
education through some other means?
--
.~.
Michael Frank /v\
ms...@sy... // \\
/( )\
^`-'^
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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-07-08 16:49:26
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Scott Shawcroft wrote:
> I'm going. Are you?
> ~Scott
>
yes, i'm going to go.
--
.~.
Michael Frank /v\
ms...@sy... // \\
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^`-'^
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From: Rich S. <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> - 2008-07-08 16:10:37
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I will speak to my parents about the mailing address, they should be alright with that. I havent had a chance to read the articles yet, but I will this afternoon. As for the board, I would love to be a part of it, but I dont need to. Also, who all is going to SocialMediaCamp? Rich On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > And here are those documents. I added the purpose statement to the Articles > of Incorporation with two modifications: > 1) I reformatted it in a more legalese list manner (but your version works > great for the general public version). > 2) I changed 'maximize their revenue' to 'share their work with the > community' to give it a more charitable feel. > > Feedback I need from all you besides general comments or requests about the > documents: > 1) We need a registered agent and office. Pretty much that is someone we > trust at a physical (not po box) address that will accept communication from > the state or legal notices on our behalf. Ideally, it would be our lawyer, > but we don't have one and probably can't afford one. It could be one of us, > but most of us rent a home or apartment, and most leases forbid any > commercial use. The best option I can think of is having one of our parents > (who owns a home) fill the role, and using the parent's house as the > official 'registered office'. > 2) We need an initial board. Who wants to be on it, and what non-engineer > people do you know that might also be interested? > 3) Make sure I numbered stuff right in the documents, as I don't trust > myself to not screw that up. > > ~Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdn...@li... > [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Scott > Shawcroft > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:20 AM > To: mdn...@li... > Subject: [Mdn-devel] Purpose Statement > > Hi all, > Eric's been working on Articles of Incorporation and the bylaws for > Banda Media (plain Banda is taken for organizations). He asked me to do > a purpose statement here is what I got: > > The purpose of Banda Media is to help artistic communities worldwide > thrive. Through the development of efficient distribution software, > Banda Media aims to help artists maximize their revenue. Furthermore, > through technical and art education, Banda Media aims to build richer, > more self-reliant local communities to participate in the global community. > > Thoughts? > > Also, who else signed up for the thing on Saturday Michael was talking > about? I'm planning on going and scoping it out. Any chance the > website could be back up by then? > > Thanks, > Scott > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness > and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > |
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From: Eric O. <eo...@cs...> - 2008-07-08 03:59:44
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And here are those documents. I added the purpose statement to the Articles of Incorporation with two modifications: 1) I reformatted it in a more legalese list manner (but your version works great for the general public version). 2) I changed 'maximize their revenue' to 'share their work with the community' to give it a more charitable feel. Feedback I need from all you besides general comments or requests about the documents: 1) We need a registered agent and office. Pretty much that is someone we trust at a physical (not po box) address that will accept communication from the state or legal notices on our behalf. Ideally, it would be our lawyer, but we don't have one and probably can't afford one. It could be one of us, but most of us rent a home or apartment, and most leases forbid any commercial use. The best option I can think of is having one of our parents (who owns a home) fill the role, and using the parent's house as the official 'registered office'. 2) We need an initial board. Who wants to be on it, and what non-engineer people do you know that might also be interested? 3) Make sure I numbered stuff right in the documents, as I don't trust myself to not screw that up. ~Eric -----Original Message----- From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Scott Shawcroft Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:20 AM To: mdn...@li... Subject: [Mdn-devel] Purpose Statement Hi all, Eric's been working on Articles of Incorporation and the bylaws for Banda Media (plain Banda is taken for organizations). He asked me to do a purpose statement here is what I got: The purpose of Banda Media is to help artistic communities worldwide thrive. Through the development of efficient distribution software, Banda Media aims to help artists maximize their revenue. Furthermore, through technical and art education, Banda Media aims to build richer, more self-reliant local communities to participate in the global community. Thoughts? Also, who else signed up for the thing on Saturday Michael was talking about? I'm planning on going and scoping it out. Any chance the website could be back up by then? Thanks, Scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 _______________________________________________ Mdn-devel mailing list Mdn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel |
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From: Scott S. <sco...@co...> - 2008-07-08 03:52:42
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I'm going. Are you? ~Scott Michael Frank wrote: > Scott Shawcroft wrote: > >> So what are we going to do? Just attend? The sessions seem to be more >> general. >> ~Scott >> >> > The sessions may or may not be of value, but it would be a chance to get > out and meet other people who are working in the 'social media' space. > Also we might get some business advice (undoubtedly our weakest area of > expertise). > > Who knows, it could be a bust. But it is free, with free lunch provided :D > > |
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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-07-07 23:59:37
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Scott Shawcroft wrote:
> So what are we going to do? Just attend? The sessions seem to be more
> general.
> ~Scott
>
The sessions may or may not be of value, but it would be a chance to get
out and meet other people who are working in the 'social media' space.
Also we might get some business advice (undoubtedly our weakest area of
expertise).
Who knows, it could be a bust. But it is free, with free lunch provided :D
--
.~.
Michael Frank /v\
ms...@sy... // \\
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^`-'^
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-07-07 17:26:46
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Yeah, should be. The site's just running Wordpress, some form plugin Rich got, and I think WP Super Cache. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Michael Frank <ms...@sy...> wrote: > Scott Shawcroft wrote: > > Also, who else signed up for the thing on Saturday Michael was talking > > about? I'm planning on going and scoping it out. Any chance the > > website could be back up by then? > > > as i told evan, moving to a new virtualization system is kinda freaking > me out, and i need to do a lot of experimenting on a box at home before > i feel comfortable that i could configure a machine remotely without > fubaring it. however, in the meantime i could migrate the website over > to my server, so at least the website would be accessible. web devs, > what software is needed to bring up the site? just wordpress + some > plugins? > > -- > .~. > Michael Frank /v\ > ms...@sy... // \\ > /( )\ > ^`-'^ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness > and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-07-07 17:22:40
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Scott Shawcroft wrote:
> Also, who else signed up for the thing on Saturday Michael was talking
> about? I'm planning on going and scoping it out. Any chance the
> website could be back up by then?
>
as i told evan, moving to a new virtualization system is kinda freaking
me out, and i need to do a lot of experimenting on a box at home before
i feel comfortable that i could configure a machine remotely without
fubaring it. however, in the meantime i could migrate the website over
to my server, so at least the website would be accessible. web devs,
what software is needed to bring up the site? just wordpress + some
plugins?
--
.~.
Michael Frank /v\
ms...@sy... // \\
/( )\
^`-'^
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From: Scott S. <sco...@co...> - 2008-07-07 07:20:10
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Hi all, Eric's been working on Articles of Incorporation and the bylaws for Banda Media (plain Banda is taken for organizations). He asked me to do a purpose statement here is what I got: The purpose of Banda Media is to help artistic communities worldwide thrive. Through the development of efficient distribution software, Banda Media aims to help artists maximize their revenue. Furthermore, through technical and art education, Banda Media aims to build richer, more self-reliant local communities to participate in the global community. Thoughts? Also, who else signed up for the thing on Saturday Michael was talking about? I'm planning on going and scoping it out. Any chance the website could be back up by then? Thanks, Scott |
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From: Scott S. <sco...@co...> - 2008-07-04 19:31:11
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So what are we going to do? Just attend? The sessions seem to be more general. ~Scott Michael Frank wrote: > another BarCamp-like thing called SocialMediaCamp is happening next > weekend (July 12th): > > http://barcamp.pbwiki.com/SocialMediaCampSeattle > > I think something like this is right up our alley with Banda, so it > could be worthwhile to go to. Anyone else interested? Anyone else in town? > > |
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From: Rich S. <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> - 2008-07-04 08:38:37
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I too am available, just let me know what is needed! Rich On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Scott Shawcroft wrote: > Michael, > I'll be around. I'd like to do it. > ~Scott > > Michael Frank wrote: >> another BarCamp-like thing called SocialMediaCamp is happening next >> weekend (July 12th): >> >> http://barcamp.pbwiki.com/SocialMediaCampSeattle >> >> I think something like this is right up our alley with Banda, so it >> could be worthwhile to go to. Anyone else interested? Anyone else in town? >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness > and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > |
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From: Scott S. <sco...@co...> - 2008-07-04 05:32:25
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Michael, I'll be around. I'd like to do it. ~Scott Michael Frank wrote: > another BarCamp-like thing called SocialMediaCamp is happening next > weekend (July 12th): > > http://barcamp.pbwiki.com/SocialMediaCampSeattle > > I think something like this is right up our alley with Banda, so it > could be worthwhile to go to. Anyone else interested? Anyone else in town? > > |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-07-03 23:12:53
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I might have to go up to Seattle sometime next week, so I could probably just come during the weekend. Biiig maybe, though. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Michael Frank <ms...@sy...> wrote: > another BarCamp-like thing called SocialMediaCamp is happening next > weekend (July 12th): > > http://barcamp.pbwiki.com/SocialMediaCampSeattle > > I think something like this is right up our alley with Banda, so it > could be worthwhile to go to. Anyone else interested? Anyone else in > town? > > -- > .~. > Michael Frank /v\ > ms...@sy... // \\ > /( )\ > ^`-'^ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness > and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-07-03 22:52:17
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another BarCamp-like thing called SocialMediaCamp is happening next weekend (July 12th): http://barcamp.pbwiki.com/SocialMediaCampSeattle I think something like this is right up our alley with Banda, so it could be worthwhile to go to. Anyone else interested? Anyone else in town? -- .~. Michael Frank /v\ ms...@sy... // \\ /( )\ ^`-'^ |
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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-06-26 20:59:08
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Andrew Reusch wrote:
> Sweet. I guess I overlooked that script. Is it in Server?
>
yeah. i don't think it is distributed with vmware-player.
--
.~.
Michael Frank /v\
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From: Andrew R. <ar...@gm...> - 2008-06-26 20:50:39
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Sweet. I guess I overlooked that script. Is it in Server? On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Michael Frank <ms...@sy...> wrote: > Andrew Reusch wrote: > > On a related note, mind if I ask how this is done? would be exteremely > > useful for me.... > > > sure, its pretty simple actually. you just use the vmware-mount.pl > script. basic usage is: > > $ vmware-mount.pl <diskfile> <partition number> [-o <mount options>] > <mountpoint> > > where <diskfile> is the path to the .vmdk file, <partition number> is > the partition inside the diskfile you want to mount, and <mountpoint> is > a path to a directory where the partition can be mounted. <mount > options> is optional, and takes the same kind of options you would pass > to the regular mount command. you can find what partition number to use > by running 'vmware-mount.pl -p <diskfile>' to list the partitions. > > you will most likely see a warning like this when you mount: "It has > been reported that this program does not work correctly with 2.4+ Linux > kernels in some cases, and you are currently running such a kernel. Do > you really want to continue? [N]". from what i read, it can be ignored, > but if you want to be safe you can mount the partition readonly (passing > -o ro as a mount option). > > -- > .~. > Michael Frank /v\ > ms...@sy... // \\ > /( )\ > ^`-'^ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > |
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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-06-26 20:23:31
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Eric Orth wrote: > I'm interested in working on banda a little bit this weekend, so if you > could get the repository active, that would be awesome. > ok, subversion is back up and accessible thru https just like it used to be (https://banda-project.org/svn/). this is readonly access at the moment. also, the homepage now has a placeholder page, which i suppose is marginally better than the banda-project.org site being completely inaccessible. -- .~. Michael Frank /v\ ms...@sy... // \\ /( )\ ^`-'^ |
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From: Eric O. <eo...@cs...> - 2008-06-26 19:41:58
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I'm interested in working on banda a little bit this weekend, so if you could get the repository active, that would be awesome. ~Eric -----Original Message----- From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Michael Frank Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:15 AM To: mdn...@li... Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] server woes Michael Frank wrote: > after spending the last few days fiddling with the server in different > ways, it looks like the real culprit is vmware. this is of course > unfortunate because the banda-project.org server is running as a vmware > server instance. Currently i have disabled vmware, and i am researching > appropriate (i.e. not proprietary) alternatives. So far Xen is sounding > good. I have no timeline as to when the server will be back up and > running. if someone has *really* important data on the server i can > temporarily restart the server long enough to pull out the data, but i > would rather not potentially destabilize the system. > a small update: i figured out how to mount the vmware server disk without actually starting vmware, so i can easily access data now. if anyone wants a copy of the website, or a copy of the svn repository, or something else, i can make it available. -- .~. Michael Frank /v\ ms...@sy... // \\ /( )\ ^`-'^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php _______________________________________________ Mdn-devel mailing list Mdn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel |
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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-06-26 18:44:47
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Andrew Reusch wrote:
> On a related note, mind if I ask how this is done? would be exteremely
> useful for me....
>
sure, its pretty simple actually. you just use the vmware-mount.pl
script. basic usage is:
$ vmware-mount.pl <diskfile> <partition number> [-o <mount options>]
<mountpoint>
where <diskfile> is the path to the .vmdk file, <partition number> is
the partition inside the diskfile you want to mount, and <mountpoint> is
a path to a directory where the partition can be mounted. <mount
options> is optional, and takes the same kind of options you would pass
to the regular mount command. you can find what partition number to use
by running 'vmware-mount.pl -p <diskfile>' to list the partitions.
you will most likely see a warning like this when you mount: "It has
been reported that this program does not work correctly with 2.4+ Linux
kernels in some cases, and you are currently running such a kernel. Do
you really want to continue? [N]". from what i read, it can be ignored,
but if you want to be safe you can mount the partition readonly (passing
-o ro as a mount option).
--
.~.
Michael Frank /v\
ms...@sy... // \\
/( )\
^`-'^
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From: Andrew R. <ar...@gm...> - 2008-06-26 18:31:06
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On a related note, mind if I ask how this is done? would be exteremely useful for me.... On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Michael Frank <ms...@sy...> wrote: > Michael Frank wrote: > > after spending the last few days fiddling with the server in different > > ways, it looks like the real culprit is vmware. this is of course > > unfortunate because the banda-project.org server is running as a vmware > > server instance. Currently i have disabled vmware, and i am researching > > appropriate (i.e. not proprietary) alternatives. So far Xen is sounding > > good. I have no timeline as to when the server will be back up and > > running. if someone has *really* important data on the server i can > > temporarily restart the server long enough to pull out the data, but i > > would rather not potentially destabilize the system. > > > a small update: i figured out how to mount the vmware server disk > without actually starting vmware, so i can easily access data now. if > anyone wants a copy of the website, or a copy of the svn repository, or > something else, i can make it available. > > -- > .~. > Michael Frank /v\ > ms...@sy... // \\ > /( )\ > ^`-'^ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > |
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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-06-26 18:15:26
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Michael Frank wrote: > after spending the last few days fiddling with the server in different > ways, it looks like the real culprit is vmware. this is of course > unfortunate because the banda-project.org server is running as a vmware > server instance. Currently i have disabled vmware, and i am researching > appropriate (i.e. not proprietary) alternatives. So far Xen is sounding > good. I have no timeline as to when the server will be back up and > running. if someone has *really* important data on the server i can > temporarily restart the server long enough to pull out the data, but i > would rather not potentially destabilize the system. > a small update: i figured out how to mount the vmware server disk without actually starting vmware, so i can easily access data now. if anyone wants a copy of the website, or a copy of the svn repository, or something else, i can make it available. -- .~. Michael Frank /v\ ms...@sy... // \\ /( )\ ^`-'^ |
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