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From: Scott S. <sco...@co...> - 2008-05-26 05:13:26
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Hi all, I don't think we should get together tomorrow because Michael is probably camping. The weather has been great and I have not gotten an email from him. We'll just have our regular meeting on Friday. If anyone has significant objections let me know. ~Scott |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-05-26 02:47:06
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Should work now. I've never used the filter property before. Cool. :) On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > The last statistics I checked showed that 7 passed 6 in the last couple > months (and if it hasn't I'm sure it will long before we release), but > different statistics vary considerably on the entire subject. What I'm sure > we can all agree upon is that IE7 is the current version of the most used > browser. > > > > The flat black doesn't look all that bad, but the site is currently > designed for the transparency effect. For optimal prettiness without the > effect, we would have to move the headphone image to not be blocked as much > by the black bar. As I said earlier, because of the multi-platform nature > of our product, I think it's important that our website is designed for > optimum prettiness in IE, Firefox, and Safari, not any one of the three. > > > > In this specific case, I don't see how it's much of an issue because they > all support the effect. IE just requires different code to specify it > because its transparency effect predates the CSS3 'opacity'. > > > > ~Eric > > > > *From:* mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] *On Behalf Of *Evan Meagher > *Sent:* Sunday, May 25, 2008 5:37 PM > > *To:* mdn...@li... > *Subject:* Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > It's more of a matter of opinion on perspective, I'd say. I don't think it > looks bad with the flat black, just different. And IE7 isn't the most used > browser. More people use IE6 than IE7, and according to w3schools<http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp>, > more people use Firefox than either IE6 or 7 separately. > > I personally don't have a problem with having a partially graded design, > based on browser standards-support, but if you guys do, we can do something > about it, I spose. We'd lose the opacity altogether, though. > > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> > wrote: > > Sorry, I thought I had said css, but I guess I wasn't clear. Anyway, the > 'opacity: 0.9;' selector doesn't work in IE, so you have to use > 'filter:alpha(opacity=90);'. You might as well also add '-moz-opacity:0.9;' > for compatibility with some older versions of Mozilla. > > > > And it is a big deal. IE7 is the most used browser, so our website has to > look just as pretty in it as in Firefox. We can get away with 'good enough' > in older browsers, but because we are making a multi-platform product, our > website has to look its best in the current versions of Firefox, IE, and > Safari. > > > > ~Eric > > > > *From:* mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] *On Behalf Of *Evan Meagher > *Sent:* Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:40 PM > > > *To:* mdn...@li... > *Subject:* Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > Oh, are you just talking about the transparency of the #container div? > That's CSS opacity, not PNG transparency. It's a CSS3 selector that IE > doesn't support, which I knew going in. Shouldn't be a big deal. People with > browsers that don't support the opacity property will just get the flat > gray. > > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > i am experienceing the same thing with the ie transparency... i couldnt get > it to be fixed... > > Rich > > > > On Sun, 25 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > > > See image. Firefox has nice pretty transparency. IE just has black bar. > Am I really the only one who sees this? > > > > > > > > And I agree on the login link. Is there any reason we need a login link > at all? > > > > > > > > ~Eric > > > > > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:41 AM > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > > > > > Mk, as far as I can tell, IE7 works fine... I tested it on my computer > with XP and my girlfriend's with Vista. Both render the subscribe and footer > shadows perfectly. > > > > Also, does anyone else think that having a log-in link with "note: you do > not need to be logged in" underneath it is a usability nightmare? If I was a > normal user, that would be confusing as balls. > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Evan Meagher <eva...@gm...> > wrote: > > > > No... I'm in Linux at the moment, so I can't check IE7. I checked it > earlier though, and it worked... I'll be playing Day of Defeat in a bit > anyway, so I'll check once I restart. > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> > wrote: > > > > No quirks mode. I get the same lack of transparency from IE7 on aria, so > I don't believe it's a problem with my computer. Quick googling shows that > you need to use slightly different css code for transparency in IE7 than in > Firefox, so I don't know how it possibly works for you. You're not using > the IE8 beta to check it are you? > > > > > > > > ~Eric > > > > > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:43 PM > > > > > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > > > > > Transparency works fine for me in IE7. Are you using quirks mode? > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> > wrote: > > > > I don't really care about IE6 because it's an old browser anyway, but > nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don't believe there > should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We're just not > doing it yet. > > > > > > > > ~Eric > > > > > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM > > > > > > To: mdn...@li... > > > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 > > > > What fix? > > > > Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and > footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. > > > > There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy > and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > > > i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i > dont think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, > so i took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. > > > > Rich > > > > > > > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > > > >> I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to > >> banda-project.org. > >> > >> And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get > >> fixed for ie anytime soon? > >> > >> ~Eric > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: mdn...@li... > >> [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich > Snider > >> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM > >> To: mdn...@li... > >> Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs > >> > >> As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. > >> bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by > us > >> and point to banda-project.org. > >> > >> Rich > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mdn-devel mailing list > >> Mdn...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mdn-devel mailing list > >> Mdn...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Eric O. <eo...@cs...> - 2008-05-26 01:04:24
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The last statistics I checked showed that 7 passed 6 in the last couple months (and if it hasn’t I’m sure it will long before we release), but different statistics vary considerably on the entire subject. What I’m sure we can all agree upon is that IE7 is the current version of the most used browser. The flat black doesn’t look all that bad, but the site is currently designed for the transparency effect. For optimal prettiness without the effect, we would have to move the headphone image to not be blocked as much by the black bar. As I said earlier, because of the multi-platform nature of our product, I think it’s important that our website is designed for optimum prettiness in IE, Firefox, and Safari, not any one of the three. In this specific case, I don’t see how it’s much of an issue because they all support the effect. IE just requires different code to specify it because its transparency effect predates the CSS3 ‘opacity’. ~Eric From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 5:37 PM To: mdn...@li... Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs It's more of a matter of opinion on perspective, I'd say. I don't think it looks bad with the flat black, just different. And IE7 isn't the most used browser. More people use IE6 than IE7, and according <http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp> to w3schools, more people use Firefox than either IE6 or 7 separately. I personally don't have a problem with having a partially graded design, based on browser standards-support, but if you guys do, we can do something about it, I spose. We'd lose the opacity altogether, though. On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: Sorry, I thought I had said css, but I guess I wasn't clear. Anyway, the 'opacity: 0.9;' selector doesn't work in IE, so you have to use 'filter:alpha(opacity=90);'. You might as well also add '-moz-opacity:0.9;' for compatibility with some older versions of Mozilla. And it is a big deal. IE7 is the most used browser, so our website has to look just as pretty in it as in Firefox. We can get away with 'good enough' in older browsers, but because we are making a multi-platform product, our website has to look its best in the current versions of Firefox, IE, and Safari. ~Eric From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:40 PM To: mdn...@li... Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs Oh, are you just talking about the transparency of the #container div? That's CSS opacity, not PNG transparency. It's a CSS3 selector that IE doesn't support, which I knew going in. Shouldn't be a big deal. People with browsers that don't support the opacity property will just get the flat gray. On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> wrote: i am experienceing the same thing with the ie transparency... i couldnt get it to be fixed... Rich On Sun, 25 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > See image. Firefox has nice pretty transparency. IE just has black bar. Am I really the only one who sees this? > > > > And I agree on the login link. Is there any reason we need a login link at all? > > > > ~Eric > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:41 AM > To: mdn...@li... > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > Mk, as far as I can tell, IE7 works fine... I tested it on my computer with XP and my girlfriend's with Vista. Both render the subscribe and footer shadows perfectly. > > Also, does anyone else think that having a log-in link with "note: you do not need to be logged in" underneath it is a usability nightmare? If I was a normal user, that would be confusing as balls. > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Evan Meagher <eva...@gm...> wrote: > > No... I'm in Linux at the moment, so I can't check IE7. I checked it earlier though, and it worked... I'll be playing Day of Defeat in a bit anyway, so I'll check once I restart. > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > > No quirks mode. I get the same lack of transparency from IE7 on aria, so I don't believe it's a problem with my computer. Quick googling shows that you need to use slightly different css code for transparency in IE7 than in Firefox, so I don't know how it possibly works for you. You're not using the IE8 beta to check it are you? > > > > ~Eric > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:43 PM > > > To: mdn...@li... > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > Transparency works fine for me in IE7. Are you using quirks mode? > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > > I don't really care about IE6 because it's an old browser anyway, but nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don't believe there should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We're just not doing it yet. > > > > ~Eric > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM > > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 > > What fix? > > Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. > > There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i dont think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, so i took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. > > Rich > > > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > >> I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to >> banda-project.org. >> >> And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get >> fixed for ie anytime soon? >> >> ~Eric >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mdn...@li... >> [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich Snider >> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM >> To: mdn...@li... >> Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs >> >> As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. >> bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by us >> and point to banda-project.org. >> >> Rich >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Mdn-devel mailing list Mdn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Mdn-devel mailing list Mdn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Orion B. <stasis@u.washington.edu> - 2008-05-26 00:55:45
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Not that I really care (I think ie should just go die somewhere), but I think you can just put the three lines of opacity together in the CSS style-sheet. It just makes sure that it's transparent on anything that views it, even crappy IE. The three are, like eric said: filter:alpha(opacity=90); -moz-opacity:0.9; opacity: 0.9; Anyway, do what you want, Evan. I'd say it isn't a big deal. -Orion On 5/25/08 5:37 pm, "Evan Meagher" <eva...@gm...> wrote: > It's more of a matter of opinion on perspective, I'd say. I don't think it > looks bad with the flat black, just different. And IE7 isn't the most used > browser. More people use IE6 than IE7, and according to > w3schools<http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp>, > more people use Firefox than either IE6 or 7 separately. > > I personally don't have a problem with having a partially graded design, > based on browser standards-support, but if you guys do, we can do something > about it, I spose. We'd lose the opacity altogether, though. > > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > >> Sorry, I thought I had said css, but I guess I wasn't clear. Anyway, the >> 'opacity: 0.9;' selector doesn't work in IE, so you have to use >> 'filter:alpha(opacity=90);'. You might as well also add '-moz-opacity:0.9;' >> for compatibility with some older versions of Mozilla. >> >> >> >> And it is a big deal. IE7 is the most used browser, so our website has to >> look just as pretty in it as in Firefox. We can get away with 'good enough' >> in older browsers, but because we are making a multi-platform product, our >> website has to look its best in the current versions of Firefox, IE, and >> Safari. >> >> >> >> ~Eric >> >> >> >> *From:* mdn...@li... [mailto: >> mdn...@li...] *On Behalf Of *Evan Meagher >> *Sent:* Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:40 PM >> >> *To:* mdn...@li... >> *Subject:* Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs >> >> >> >> Oh, are you just talking about the transparency of the #container div? >> That's CSS opacity, not PNG transparency. It's a CSS3 selector that IE >> doesn't support, which I knew going in. Shouldn't be a big deal. People with >> browsers that don't support the opacity property will just get the flat >> gray. >> >> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> >> wrote: >> >> i am experienceing the same thing with the ie transparency... i couldnt get >> it to be fixed... >> >> Rich >> >> >> >> On Sun, 25 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: >> >>> See image. Firefox has nice pretty transparency. IE just has black bar. >> Am I really the only one who sees this? >>> >>> >>> >>> And I agree on the login link. Is there any reason we need a login link >> at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> ~Eric >>> >>> >>> >>> From: mdn...@li... [mailto: >> mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher >>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:41 AM >>> To: mdn...@li... >>> Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs >>> >>> >>> >>> Mk, as far as I can tell, IE7 works fine... I tested it on my computer >> with XP and my girlfriend's with Vista. Both render the subscribe and footer >> shadows perfectly. >>> >>> Also, does anyone else think that having a log-in link with "note: you do >> not need to be logged in" underneath it is a usability nightmare? If I was a >> normal user, that would be confusing as balls. >>> >>> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Evan Meagher <eva...@gm...> >> wrote: >>> >>> No... I'm in Linux at the moment, so I can't check IE7. I checked it >> earlier though, and it worked... I'll be playing Day of Defeat in a bit >> anyway, so I'll check once I restart. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> >> wrote: >>> >>> No quirks mode. I get the same lack of transparency from IE7 on aria, so >> I don't believe it's a problem with my computer. Quick googling shows that >> you need to use slightly different css code for transparency in IE7 than in >> Firefox, so I don't know how it possibly works for you. You're not using >> the IE8 beta to check it are you? >>> >>> >>> >>> ~Eric >>> >>> >>> >>> From: mdn...@li... [mailto: >> mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher >>> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:43 PM >>> >>> >>> To: mdn...@li... >>> Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs >>> >>> >>> >>> Transparency works fine for me in IE7. Are you using quirks mode? >>> >>> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> >> wrote: >>> >>> I don't really care about IE6 because it's an old browser anyway, but >> nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don't believe there >> should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We're just not >> doing it yet. >>> >>> >>> >>> ~Eric >>> >>> >>> >>> From: mdn...@li... [mailto: >> mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher >>> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM >>> >>> >>> To: mdn...@li... >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs >>> >>> >>> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 >>> >>> What fix? >>> >>> Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and >> footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. >>> >>> There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy >> and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. >>> >>> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> >> wrote: >>> >>> i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i >> dont think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, >> so i took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. >>> >>> Rich >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: >>> >>>> I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to >>>> banda-project.org. >>>> >>>> And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get >>>> fixed for ie anytime soon? >>>> >>>> ~Eric >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mdn...@li... >>>> [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich >> Snider >>>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM >>>> To: mdn...@li... >>>> Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs >>>> >>>> As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. >>>> bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by >> us >>>> and point to banda-project.org. >>>> >>>> Rich >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mdn-devel mailing list >>>> Mdn...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mdn-devel mailing list >>>> Mdn...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. 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Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mdn-devel mailing list >>> Mdn...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> >> > -- Orion Buske Undergraduate Student Department of Bioengineering Department of Computer Science and Engineering University of Washington Email: stasis@u.washington.edu |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-05-26 00:37:33
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It's more of a matter of opinion on perspective, I'd say. I don't think it looks bad with the flat black, just different. And IE7 isn't the most used browser. More people use IE6 than IE7, and according to w3schools<http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp>, more people use Firefox than either IE6 or 7 separately. I personally don't have a problem with having a partially graded design, based on browser standards-support, but if you guys do, we can do something about it, I spose. We'd lose the opacity altogether, though. On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > Sorry, I thought I had said css, but I guess I wasn't clear. Anyway, the > 'opacity: 0.9;' selector doesn't work in IE, so you have to use > 'filter:alpha(opacity=90);'. You might as well also add '-moz-opacity:0.9;' > for compatibility with some older versions of Mozilla. > > > > And it is a big deal. IE7 is the most used browser, so our website has to > look just as pretty in it as in Firefox. We can get away with 'good enough' > in older browsers, but because we are making a multi-platform product, our > website has to look its best in the current versions of Firefox, IE, and > Safari. > > > > ~Eric > > > > *From:* mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] *On Behalf Of *Evan Meagher > *Sent:* Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:40 PM > > *To:* mdn...@li... > *Subject:* Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > Oh, are you just talking about the transparency of the #container div? > That's CSS opacity, not PNG transparency. It's a CSS3 selector that IE > doesn't support, which I knew going in. Shouldn't be a big deal. People with > browsers that don't support the opacity property will just get the flat > gray. > > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > i am experienceing the same thing with the ie transparency... i couldnt get > it to be fixed... > > Rich > > > > On Sun, 25 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > > > See image. Firefox has nice pretty transparency. IE just has black bar. > Am I really the only one who sees this? > > > > > > > > And I agree on the login link. Is there any reason we need a login link > at all? > > > > > > > > ~Eric > > > > > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:41 AM > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > > > > > Mk, as far as I can tell, IE7 works fine... I tested it on my computer > with XP and my girlfriend's with Vista. Both render the subscribe and footer > shadows perfectly. > > > > Also, does anyone else think that having a log-in link with "note: you do > not need to be logged in" underneath it is a usability nightmare? If I was a > normal user, that would be confusing as balls. > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Evan Meagher <eva...@gm...> > wrote: > > > > No... I'm in Linux at the moment, so I can't check IE7. I checked it > earlier though, and it worked... I'll be playing Day of Defeat in a bit > anyway, so I'll check once I restart. > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> > wrote: > > > > No quirks mode. I get the same lack of transparency from IE7 on aria, so > I don't believe it's a problem with my computer. Quick googling shows that > you need to use slightly different css code for transparency in IE7 than in > Firefox, so I don't know how it possibly works for you. You're not using > the IE8 beta to check it are you? > > > > > > > > ~Eric > > > > > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:43 PM > > > > > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > > > > > Transparency works fine for me in IE7. Are you using quirks mode? > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> > wrote: > > > > I don't really care about IE6 because it's an old browser anyway, but > nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don't believe there > should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We're just not > doing it yet. > > > > > > > > ~Eric > > > > > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM > > > > > > To: mdn...@li... > > > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 > > > > What fix? > > > > Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and > footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. > > > > There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy > and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > > > i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i > dont think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, > so i took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. > > > > Rich > > > > > > > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > > > >> I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to > >> banda-project.org. > >> > >> And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get > >> fixed for ie anytime soon? > >> > >> ~Eric > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: mdn...@li... > >> [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich > Snider > >> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM > >> To: mdn...@li... > >> Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs > >> > >> As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. > >> bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by > us > >> and point to banda-project.org. > >> > >> Rich > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mdn-devel mailing list > >> Mdn...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mdn-devel mailing list > >> Mdn...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Eric O. <eo...@cs...> - 2008-05-25 22:18:06
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Sorry, I thought I had said css, but I guess I wasn’t clear. Anyway, the ‘opacity: 0.9;’ selector doesn’t work in IE, so you have to use ‘filter:alpha(opacity=90);’. You might as well also add ‘-moz-opacity:0.9;’ for compatibility with some older versions of Mozilla. And it is a big deal. IE7 is the most used browser, so our website has to look just as pretty in it as in Firefox. We can get away with ‘good enough’ in older browsers, but because we are making a multi-platform product, our website has to look its best in the current versions of Firefox, IE, and Safari. ~Eric From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:40 PM To: mdn...@li... Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs Oh, are you just talking about the transparency of the #container div? That's CSS opacity, not PNG transparency. It's a CSS3 selector that IE doesn't support, which I knew going in. Shouldn't be a big deal. People with browsers that don't support the opacity property will just get the flat gray. On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> wrote: i am experienceing the same thing with the ie transparency... i couldnt get it to be fixed... Rich On Sun, 25 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > See image. Firefox has nice pretty transparency. IE just has black bar. Am I really the only one who sees this? > > > > And I agree on the login link. Is there any reason we need a login link at all? > > > > ~Eric > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:41 AM > To: mdn...@li... > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > Mk, as far as I can tell, IE7 works fine... I tested it on my computer with XP and my girlfriend's with Vista. Both render the subscribe and footer shadows perfectly. > > Also, does anyone else think that having a log-in link with "note: you do not need to be logged in" underneath it is a usability nightmare? If I was a normal user, that would be confusing as balls. > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Evan Meagher <eva...@gm...> wrote: > > No... I'm in Linux at the moment, so I can't check IE7. I checked it earlier though, and it worked... I'll be playing Day of Defeat in a bit anyway, so I'll check once I restart. > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > > No quirks mode. I get the same lack of transparency from IE7 on aria, so I don't believe it's a problem with my computer. Quick googling shows that you need to use slightly different css code for transparency in IE7 than in Firefox, so I don't know how it possibly works for you. You're not using the IE8 beta to check it are you? > > > > ~Eric > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:43 PM > > > To: mdn...@li... > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > Transparency works fine for me in IE7. Are you using quirks mode? > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > > I don't really care about IE6 because it's an old browser anyway, but nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don't believe there should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We're just not doing it yet. > > > > ~Eric > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM > > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 > > What fix? > > Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. > > There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i dont think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, so i took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. > > Rich > > > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > >> I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to >> banda-project.org. >> >> And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get >> fixed for ie anytime soon? >> >> ~Eric >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mdn...@li... >> [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich Snider >> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM >> To: mdn...@li... >> Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs >> >> As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. >> bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by us >> and point to banda-project.org. >> >> Rich >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Mdn-devel mailing list Mdn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-05-25 21:40:06
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Oh, are you just talking about the transparency of the #container div? That's CSS opacity, not PNG transparency. It's a CSS3 selector that IE doesn't support, which I knew going in. Shouldn't be a big deal. People with browsers that don't support the opacity property will just get the flat gray. On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> wrote: > i am experienceing the same thing with the ie transparency... i couldnt get > it to be fixed... > > Rich > > > On Sun, 25 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > > > See image. Firefox has nice pretty transparency. IE just has black bar. > Am I really the only one who sees this? > > > > > > > > And I agree on the login link. Is there any reason we need a login link > at all? > > > > > > > > ~Eric > > > > > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:41 AM > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > > > > > Mk, as far as I can tell, IE7 works fine... I tested it on my computer > with XP and my girlfriend's with Vista. Both render the subscribe and footer > shadows perfectly. > > > > Also, does anyone else think that having a log-in link with "note: you do > not need to be logged in" underneath it is a usability nightmare? If I was a > normal user, that would be confusing as balls. > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Evan Meagher <eva...@gm...> > wrote: > > > > No... I'm in Linux at the moment, so I can't check IE7. I checked it > earlier though, and it worked... I'll be playing Day of Defeat in a bit > anyway, so I'll check once I restart. > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> > wrote: > > > > No quirks mode. I get the same lack of transparency from IE7 on aria, so > I don't believe it's a problem with my computer. Quick googling shows that > you need to use slightly different css code for transparency in IE7 than in > Firefox, so I don't know how it possibly works for you. You're not using > the IE8 beta to check it are you? > > > > > > > > ~Eric > > > > > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:43 PM > > > > > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > > > > > Transparency works fine for me in IE7. Are you using quirks mode? > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> > wrote: > > > > I don't really care about IE6 because it's an old browser anyway, but > nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don't believe there > should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We're just not > doing it yet. > > > > > > > > ~Eric > > > > > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM > > > > > > To: mdn...@li... > > > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 > > > > What fix? > > > > Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and > footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. > > > > There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy > and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > > > i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i > dont think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, > so i took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. > > > > Rich > > > > > > > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > > > >> I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to > >> banda-project.org. > >> > >> And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get > >> fixed for ie anytime soon? > >> > >> ~Eric > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: mdn...@li... > >> [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich > Snider > >> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM > >> To: mdn...@li... > >> Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs > >> > >> As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. > >> bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by > us > >> and point to banda-project.org. > >> > >> Rich > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mdn-devel mailing list > >> Mdn...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mdn-devel mailing list > >> Mdn...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Rich S. <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> - 2008-05-25 19:49:30
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i am experienceing the same thing with the ie transparency... i couldnt get it to be fixed... Rich On Sun, 25 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > See image. Firefox has nice pretty transparency. IE just has black bar. Am I really the only one who sees this? > > > > And I agree on the login link. Is there any reason we need a login link at all? > > > > ~Eric > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:41 AM > To: mdn...@li... > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > Mk, as far as I can tell, IE7 works fine... I tested it on my computer with XP and my girlfriend's with Vista. Both render the subscribe and footer shadows perfectly. > > Also, does anyone else think that having a log-in link with "note: you do not need to be logged in" underneath it is a usability nightmare? If I was a normal user, that would be confusing as balls. > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Evan Meagher <eva...@gm...> wrote: > > No... I'm in Linux at the moment, so I can't check IE7. I checked it earlier though, and it worked... I'll be playing Day of Defeat in a bit anyway, so I'll check once I restart. > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > > No quirks mode. I get the same lack of transparency from IE7 on aria, so I don't believe it's a problem with my computer. Quick googling shows that you need to use slightly different css code for transparency in IE7 than in Firefox, so I don't know how it possibly works for you. You're not using the IE8 beta to check it are you? > > > > ~Eric > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:43 PM > > > To: mdn...@li... > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > Transparency works fine for me in IE7. Are you using quirks mode? > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > > I don't really care about IE6 because it's an old browser anyway, but nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don't believe there should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We're just not doing it yet. > > > > ~Eric > > > > From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM > > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 > > What fix? > > Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. > > There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i dont think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, so i took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. > > Rich > > > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > >> I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to >> banda-project.org. >> >> And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get >> fixed for ie anytime soon? >> >> ~Eric >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mdn...@li... >> [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich Snider >> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM >> To: mdn...@li... >> Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs >> >> As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. >> bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by us >> and point to banda-project.org. >> >> Rich >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-05-25 07:41:06
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Mk, as far as I can tell, IE7 works fine... I tested it on my computer with XP and my girlfriend's with Vista. Both render the subscribe and footer shadows perfectly. Also, does anyone else think that having a log-in link with "note: you do not need to be logged in" underneath it is a usability nightmare? If I was a normal user, that would be confusing as balls. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Evan Meagher <eva...@gm...> wrote: > No... I'm in Linux at the moment, so I can't check IE7. I checked it > earlier though, and it worked... I'll be playing Day of Defeat in a bit > anyway, so I'll check once I restart. > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> > wrote: > >> No quirks mode. I get the same lack of transparency from IE7 on aria, >> so I don't believe it's a problem with my computer. Quick googling shows >> that you need to use slightly different css code for transparency in IE7 >> than in Firefox, so I don't know how it possibly works for you. You're not >> using the IE8 beta to check it are you? >> >> >> >> ~Eric >> >> >> >> *From:* mdn...@li... [mailto: >> mdn...@li...] *On Behalf Of *Evan Meagher >> *Sent:* Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:43 PM >> >> *To:* mdn...@li... >> *Subject:* Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs >> >> >> >> Transparency works fine for me in IE7. Are you using quirks mode? >> >> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> >> wrote: >> >> I don't really care about IE6 because it's an old browser anyway, but >> nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don't believe there >> should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We're just not >> doing it yet. >> >> >> >> ~Eric >> >> >> >> *From:* mdn...@li... [mailto: >> mdn...@li...] *On Behalf Of *Evan Meagher >> *Sent:* Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM >> >> >> *To:* mdn...@li... >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs >> >> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 >> >> What fix? >> >> Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and >> footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. >> >> There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy >> and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. >> >> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> >> wrote: >> >> i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i >> dont think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, >> so i took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. >> >> Rich >> >> >> >> On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: >> >> > I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to >> > banda-project.org. >> > >> > And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get >> > fixed for ie anytime soon? >> > >> > ~Eric >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: mdn...@li... >> > [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich >> Snider >> > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM >> > To: mdn...@li... >> > Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs >> > >> > As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. >> > bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by >> us >> > and point to banda-project.org. >> > >> > Rich >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mdn-devel mailing list >> > Mdn...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mdn-devel mailing list >> > Mdn...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> >> > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-05-25 04:14:56
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No... I'm in Linux at the moment, so I can't check IE7. I checked it earlier though, and it worked... I'll be playing Day of Defeat in a bit anyway, so I'll check once I restart. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > No quirks mode. I get the same lack of transparency from IE7 on aria, so > I don't believe it's a problem with my computer. Quick googling shows that > you need to use slightly different css code for transparency in IE7 than in > Firefox, so I don't know how it possibly works for you. You're not using > the IE8 beta to check it are you? > > > > ~Eric > > > > *From:* mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] *On Behalf Of *Evan Meagher > *Sent:* Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:43 PM > > *To:* mdn...@li... > *Subject:* Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > Transparency works fine for me in IE7. Are you using quirks mode? > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> > wrote: > > I don't really care about IE6 because it's an old browser anyway, but > nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don't believe there > should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We're just not > doing it yet. > > > > ~Eric > > > > *From:* mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] *On Behalf Of *Evan Meagher > *Sent:* Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM > > > *To:* mdn...@li... > > *Subject:* Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 > > What fix? > > Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and > footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. > > There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy > and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i dont > think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, so i > took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. > > Rich > > > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > > > I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to > > banda-project.org. > > > > And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get > > fixed for ie anytime soon? > > > > ~Eric > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mdn...@li... > > [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich > Snider > > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. > > bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by > us > > and point to banda-project.org. > > > > Rich > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Eric O. <eo...@cs...> - 2008-05-25 03:59:55
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No quirks mode. I get the same lack of transparency from IE7 on aria, so I don’t believe it’s a problem with my computer. Quick googling shows that you need to use slightly different css code for transparency in IE7 than in Firefox, so I don’t know how it possibly works for you. You’re not using the IE8 beta to check it are you? ~Eric From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:43 PM To: mdn...@li... Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs Transparency works fine for me in IE7. Are you using quirks mode? On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: I don't really care about IE6 because it's an old browser anyway, but nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don't believe there should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We're just not doing it yet. ~Eric From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM To: mdn...@li... Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 What fix? Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> wrote: i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i dont think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, so i took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. Rich On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to > banda-project.org. > > And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get > fixed for ie anytime soon? > > ~Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdn...@li... > [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich Snider > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM > To: mdn...@li... > Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. > bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by us > and point to banda-project.org. > > Rich > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Mdn-devel mailing list Mdn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Mdn-devel mailing list Mdn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-05-25 03:43:13
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Transparency works fine for me in IE7. Are you using quirks mode? On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > I don't really care about IE6 because it's an old browser anyway, but > nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don't believe there > should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We're just not > doing it yet. > > > > ~Eric > > > > *From:* mdn...@li... [mailto: > mdn...@li...] *On Behalf Of *Evan Meagher > *Sent:* Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM > *To:* mdn...@li... > *Subject:* Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 > > What fix? > > Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and > footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. > > There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy > and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i dont > think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, so i > took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. > > Rich > > > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > > > I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to > > banda-project.org. > > > > And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get > > fixed for ie anytime soon? > > > > ~Eric > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mdn...@li... > > [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich > Snider > > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. > > bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by > us > > and point to banda-project.org. > > > > Rich > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Eric O. <eo...@cs...> - 2008-05-25 03:41:22
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I don’t really care about IE6 because it’s an old browser anyway, but nothing on our site is transparent in IE7 either. I don’t believe there should be any significant barriers to transparency for IE7. We’re just not doing it yet. ~Eric From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Evan Meagher Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:11 PM To: mdn...@li... Subject: Re: [Mdn-devel] URLs http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 What fix? Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> wrote: i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i dont think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, so i took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. Rich On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to > banda-project.org. > > And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get > fixed for ie anytime soon? > > ~Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdn...@li... > [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich Snider > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM > To: mdn...@li... > Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. > bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by us > and point to banda-project.org. > > Rich > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Mdn-devel mailing list Mdn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-05-25 03:10:57
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 What fix? Internet Explorer 6 doesn't support PNG transparency. The subscribe and footer shadow images are PNGs that utilize transparency. There are Javascript ways to force IE6 to do it properly, but it's messy and unreliable. If nothing else, I'll just make the subscribe icon opaque. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Rich Snider <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> wrote: > i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i dont > think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, so i > took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. > > Rich > > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > > > I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to > > banda-project.org. > > > > And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get > > fixed for ie anytime soon? > > > > ~Eric > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mdn...@li... > > [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich > Snider > > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM > > To: mdn...@li... > > Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > > > As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. > > bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by > us > > and point to banda-project.org. > > > > Rich > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Mdn-devel mailing list > > Mdn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Rich S. <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> - 2008-05-25 02:52:40
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i looked into that and there is transparency support for pngs... but i dont think we are using them (since i put in the fix and nothing happened, so i took it out). other than that, theres no support to my knowledge. Rich On Sat, 24 May 2008, Eric Orth wrote: > I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to > banda-project.org. > > And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get > fixed for ie anytime soon? > > ~Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdn...@li... > [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich Snider > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM > To: mdn...@li... > Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. > bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by us > and point to banda-project.org. > > Rich > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-05-25 02:45:19
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Yeah, I'll get around to it. IE6 doesn't support PNG transparency, but I'll figure something out. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Eric Orth <eo...@cs...> wrote: > I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to > banda-project.org. > > And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get > fixed for ie anytime soon? > > ~Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdn...@li... > [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich Snider > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM > To: mdn...@li... > Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs > > As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. > bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by us > and point to banda-project.org. > > Rich > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Eric O. <eo...@cs...> - 2008-05-25 00:13:52
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I just bought banda-music .com, .org, and .net. Forwarding to banda-project.org. And speaking of our website, any chance the transparency is going to get fixed for ie anytime soon? ~Eric -----Original Message----- From: mdn...@li... [mailto:mdn...@li...] On Behalf Of Rich Snider Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:13 PM To: mdn...@li... Subject: [Mdn-devel] URLs As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by us and point to banda-project.org. Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Mdn-devel mailing list Mdn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel |
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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-05-24 06:30:55
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i've been thinking a bit about RPC on the daemon. instead of using platform specific libraries like DBus and COM, my current thought is to embed a webserver and access perform RPC using a REST interface. This is my reasoning: Pros: * it would reduce the amount of platform specific code. DBus is nice, but COM is less nice, and i don't even know what to do about OSX. * it makes a web client interface *a lot* easier. Cons: * REST isn't stateful, so we would have to poll for all notifications. * more code in the daemon, to parse HTTP requests. * libraries like DBus make it easy to generate client bindings to wrap method calls, whereas for a REST api we would need to do some extra work parsing the HTTP response. with REST, we can interface with the daemon thru a web client using regular AJAX techniques, which would be *very* cool. i think the more code argument is nullified by 1) the fact that we would have just one piece of code for RPC, instead of separate platform pieces, and 2) we will already have REST parsing code in the client because the searching, browsing, etc are done in that manner thru the webapi. I've been looking around a bit at embedded webserver code, and i found these: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/IP/CSharpEmbeddedHTTPServer.aspx http://www.codeplex.com/webserver thoughts? -- .~. Michael Frank /v\ ms...@sy... // \\ /( )\ ^`-'^ |
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From: Rich S. <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> - 2008-05-24 06:12:51
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As per our discussion tonight, I just bought a bunch of domains. bandaproject and banda-project .com, .net, and .us all now are owned by us and point to banda-project.org. Rich |
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From: Rich S. <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> - 2008-05-23 23:18:31
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im assuming 6... thats what its been previously no? On Fri, 23 May 2008, Evan Meagher wrote: > What time is the meeting? 6:30? > > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Orion Buske <stasis@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > >> I'm not going to be able to make a meeting today because I'm helping run >> the >> ACM Spring BBQ. Sorry! >> >> -Orion >> >> -- >> >> Orion Buske >> Undergraduate Student >> >> Department of Bioengineering >> Department of Computer Science and Engineering >> University of Washington >> >> Email: stasis@u.washington.edu >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mdn-devel mailing list >> Mdn...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel >> > > > > -- > Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 > |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-05-23 21:43:07
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What time is the meeting? 6:30? On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Orion Buske <stasis@u.washington.edu> wrote: > I'm not going to be able to make a meeting today because I'm helping run > the > ACM Spring BBQ. Sorry! > > -Orion > > -- > > Orion Buske > Undergraduate Student > > Department of Bioengineering > Department of Computer Science and Engineering > University of Washington > > Email: stasis@u.washington.edu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mdn-devel mailing list > Mdn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mdn-devel > -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Orion B. <stasis@u.washington.edu> - 2008-05-23 19:13:56
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I'm not going to be able to make a meeting today because I'm helping run the ACM Spring BBQ. Sorry! -Orion -- Orion Buske Undergraduate Student Department of Bioengineering Department of Computer Science and Engineering University of Washington Email: stasis@u.washington.edu |
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From: Evan M. <eva...@gm...> - 2008-05-23 17:52:41
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http://www.dailybits.com/routenotecom-online-music-distribution-service/ -- Evan Meagher | http://evanmeagher.net/ | aim:mongoose1337 |
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From: Michael F. <ms...@sy...> - 2008-05-22 01:30:59
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i dunno when it was released, but ubuntu now ships with qt4.4, which i
was able to build banda with. so...
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get install libqt4-opengl-dev
should get all the necessary qt4 stuff. the only snag is that there is
an error in the libqt4-opengl-dev package: one of the .pc files is
present in both libqt4-opengl-dev and libqt4-dev. i worked around this
by running the above commands, then:
$ sudo apt-get -f install
which installs everything except the libqt4-opengl-dev package, then
$ sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite \
/var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-opengl-dev_4.4.0-1ubuntu4~hardy1_i386.deb
which ignores the dpkg error.
yay for package management. at least i don't have to compile qt4.4 tho,
which takes forever on my laptop.
--
.~.
Michael Frank /v\
ms...@sy... // \\
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^`-'^
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From: Rich S. <mrsoviet@u.washington.edu> - 2008-05-19 05:15:13
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Hey all, I am heading out in a little bit to go doodle ourselves across campus. Ive got a bunch of chalk and am gonna put our logo throughout campus with a link to our website. If any of you would like to help that would be awesome!!! My cell phone number is 425-503-8785, so gimme a call and i will let u know whats up! I just hope someone comes.... (I know its late notice). Rich |
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