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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2003-04-10 00:57:27
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Again, Gestation has gone through an update. I finally got a current Gestation snapshot installed as my main desktop. There were some wrinkles to work out, but thankfully, all known wrinkles have been worked out. Current Gestation is now very usable. On my system (T-bird 1.33GHz), a Gestation snapshot generally takes about 32 hours for a first-time build. After accumulating compiler cache in a first-time build, successive rebuilds take about 18 hours. At this rate, it should be easy to dedicate a relatively inexpensive single-CPU host to do daily Gestation x86 builds. I'll look into this and see what can be had. Building Gestation on my Alpha (decrepit old 600MHz LX164)...well...that takes a little longer. :/ I won't have accurate timing results for a while, and due to lack of hardware on my Alpha, I won't be able to test Gestation on Alpha quite as much as I'd like. Getting an Alpha with sufficient horsepower for daily Gestation builds probably isn't going to be cheap, so unless someone spots a VERY good deal, we should probably forget about that for now. Terry, I hate to be a nag, but how is ftp.inceptionos.org coming along? It would be nice to get Gestation out there for the public to play with... ;) -- Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-04-01 20:43:27
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Kelledin, Have you tried out the demo of it that they have running? All that we have to do is download it and install -- and configure -- it to tutos.inceptionos.org. Michael P.S. I came across that program about a week and a half ago completely by accident, but I like it!!! On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:38:03 -0600, "Kelledin" <kel...@sk...> said: > On Tuesday 01 April 2003 02:02 pm, Michael Lauzon wrote: > > Okay, I understand now. So, what do you think about my idea > > of using TUTOS (http://www.tutos.org/homepage/index.html) as > > our Project Management software...I've briefly tested it on > > their web site as they have a demo setup for it. >=20 > Should work well. Clearly we need something to set a schedule;=20 > if TUTOS is stable, it will probably work as well as anything.=20=20 > The web-based access features look pretty nifty... >=20 > --=20 > Kelledin > "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 > it still cost four figures to fix?" >=20 >=20 --=20 http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different=85 |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2003-04-01 20:39:37
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On Tuesday 01 April 2003 02:02 pm, Michael Lauzon wrote: > Okay, I understand now. So, what do you think about my idea > of using TUTOS (http://www.tutos.org/homepage/index.html) as > our Project Management software...I've briefly tested it on > their web site as they have a demo setup for it. Should work well. Clearly we need something to set a schedule;=20 if TUTOS is stable, it will probably work as well as anything. =20 The web-based access features look pretty nifty... --=20 Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-04-01 20:02:43
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Kelledin, Okay, I understand now. So, what do you think about my idea of using TUTOS (http://www.tutos.org/homepage/index.html) as our Project Management software...I've briefly tested it on their web site as they have a demo setup for it. Michael On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:39:42 -0600, "Kelledin" <kel...@sk...> said: > On Tuesday 01 April 2003 08:25 am, Michael Lauzon wrote: > > Unfortunately, I have no idea how to use PGP and/or GPG...but > > why would this be a good idea to use that technology to use > > when emailing to the list? > > It's not just for e-mailing to the list...it's for signing > packages and posting security update notifications. This could > improve our own security and help instill user trust. > PGP-signing packages is becoming more and more accepted, and > with trojaned software getting planted on semi-trusted > fileservers (i.e. the trojaned OpenSSH from a while back), it's > becoming more and more necessary. > > The RPM format has had provisions for package signing for ages > now, so it shouldn't be a problem to implement. Mail > (obviously) isn't a problem either. We just need to decide how > to do this. > > I can probably post a quick tutorial on building GnuPG and > generating/using keys... > > -- > Kelledin > "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does > it still cost four figures to fix?" > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: > Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! > No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server > http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Maxlinux-devel mailing list > Max...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxlinux-devel > -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2003-04-01 19:41:20
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On Tuesday 01 April 2003 08:25 am, Michael Lauzon wrote: > Unfortunately, I have no idea how to use PGP and/or GPG...but > why would this be a good idea to use that technology to use > when emailing to the list? It's not just for e-mailing to the list...it's for signing packages and posting security update notifications. This could improve our own security and help instill user trust. PGP-signing packages is becoming more and more accepted, and with trojaned software getting planted on semi-trusted fileservers (i.e. the trojaned OpenSSH from a while back), it's becoming more and more necessary. The RPM format has had provisions for package signing for ages now, so it shouldn't be a problem to implement. Mail (obviously) isn't a problem either. We just need to decide how to do this. I can probably post a quick tutorial on building GnuPG and generating/using keys... -- Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-04-01 14:25:40
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Kelledin, Unfortunately, I have no idea how to use PGP and/or GPG...but why would this be a good idea to use that technology to use when emailing to the list? Also, -- this is for everyone -- I have found a piece of team management software that we can use to manage our development team. It is called TUTOS, and can be found here: http://www.tutos.org/homepage/index.html I would like to use it, and we should then install it to: http://tutos.inceptionos.org/ Michael On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:26:20 -0600, "Kelledin" <kel...@sk...> said: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Gestation has gone through some fairly significant updates. > Package versions are as up-to-date as I care to make them, all > known security issues (well, almost all) have been resolved, and > the system now appears complete a full build with decent > consistency. > > The only known unresolved security issue is the recent > cryptographic weaknesses uncovered in the krb4 protocol > (http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/www/advisories/MITKRB5-SA-2003-004-krb4.txt). > AFAICT there's no way to correct these weaknesses without > altering the protocol itself, so that may actually be out of our > hands. I can find no patches to fix it in any event. > > Gestation docs have also been updated: > > http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.kwd > http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.pdf > http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.ps > > Now on to the other issue... > > In the interest of security, it's advisable that each project > member generate a personal PGP key specifically for InceptionOS > work and register it with a public keyserver. I already have > one (I may get a second one). I also think we should register > an additional PGP key to represent the entire project, but I'm > not sure how we should handle this. Michael should know the > private key, of course, since he's our Fearless Leader. ;) I'll > have to know the private key, since I ought to be signing > packages. It seems only fair that everyone should know the > private key, but OTOH it's better for security if as few people > as possible know it. > > IMHO we should also generate a new InceptionOS PGP key at the > beginning of each year, without revoking the old one. Generally > we should only revoke a key if we believe it's been compromised. > > - -- > Kelledin > "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does > it still cost four figures to fix?" > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+iKRy9y3qtBjaXDERAiB5AJ9VJdroVOHYTpM9Gdp6Vy0zXhiNwwCfZvsN > 76wTGU6vkGc3V+9LxqckC3k= > =Ij8E > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: > Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! > No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server > http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Maxlinux-devel mailing list > Max...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxlinux-devel > -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2003-03-31 19:29:09
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gestation has gone through some fairly significant updates. =20 Package versions are as up-to-date as I care to make them, all=20 known security issues (well, almost all) have been resolved, and=20 the system now appears complete a full build with decent=20 consistency. The only known unresolved security issue is the recent=20 cryptographic weaknesses uncovered in the krb4 protocol=20 (http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/www/advisories/MITKRB5-SA-2003-004-krb4.txt)= =2E =20 AFAICT there's no way to correct these weaknesses without=20 altering the protocol itself, so that may actually be out of our=20 hands. I can find no patches to fix it in any event. Gestation docs have also been updated: http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.kwd http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.pdf http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.ps Now on to the other issue... In the interest of security, it's advisable that each project=20 member generate a personal PGP key specifically for InceptionOS=20 work and register it with a public keyserver. I already have=20 one (I may get a second one). I also think we should register=20 an additional PGP key to represent the entire project, but I'm=20 not sure how we should handle this. Michael should know the=20 private key, of course, since he's our Fearless Leader. ;) I'll=20 have to know the private key, since I ought to be signing=20 packages. It seems only fair that everyone should know the=20 private key, but OTOH it's better for security if as few people=20 as possible know it. IMHO we should also generate a new InceptionOS PGP key at the=20 beginning of each year, without revoking the old one. Generally=20 we should only revoke a key if we believe it's been compromised. - --=20 Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 it still cost four figures to fix?" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+iKRy9y3qtBjaXDERAiB5AJ9VJdroVOHYTpM9Gdp6Vy0zXhiNwwCfZvsN 76wTGU6vkGc3V+9LxqckC3k=3D =3DIj8E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2003-03-28 07:06:20
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My pet monkey insists that on Mar 27 2003 at 06:29PM Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> warbled: > Has the move been completed to the new server yet, if so Kelledin will > have to start uploading files to the server -- providing AnonFTP is > working -- and we'll have to make small announcements on some Linux > sites, and also advertising for more Developers positions, especially > someone to code the installation interface. I'm still waiting for my contact to RaQ it, I'm chasing him up today - more news as I have it. HTH -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ One distinguishing characteristic of BOFHen is attention deficit disorder. Put me in front of something boring and I can find a near-infinite number of really creative ways to bugger off. |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-03-27 18:29:16
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Terry, Has the move been completed to the new server yet, if so Kelledin will have to start uploading files to the server -- providing AnonFTP is working -- and we'll have to make small announcements on some Linux sites, and also advertising for more Developers positions, especially someone to code the installation interface. -- Michael Lauzon Founder & Lead Project Manager InceptionOS Project http://www.inceptionos.org/ mi...@in... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2003-03-21 13:15:30
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On Thursday 20 March 2003 10:30 pm, Michael Lauzon wrote: > As you know 2.6 will be a while in coming, so let's add NGPT > to our distro, remember we want to be somewhat distinct from > other distros, and I think that NGPT will do that for us...I > don't know of any other that is using NGPT. It's worth considering. It will be rather interesting getting it=20 to merge cleanly with glibc-2.3.x, but I can give it a shot... > I am still looking for the programmer myself, so far no luck as=20 > well. By the way, just out of morbid curiousity -- and yes I=20 > know 'Curiousity killed that cat, but the cat came back the=20 > very next day, the cat came back I thought he was a goner --=20 > where are you from, because you have such a cool name, sounds=20 > like something out of a fantasy novel?! Heh...I must admit I'm from Texas (US), and Kelledin's just my=20 screen name. :/ Pretty much all of my online presence is under=20 that name. Fortunately, it appears to be an original name, so I=20 feel pretty OK using it. (Just so you know, my real name is a very plain name: Frank=20 Schaefer. Only thing special or noteworthy about it is that my=20 parents gave me the middle name of "Adolph." Yikes! ;) --=20 Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-03-21 04:31:02
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Kelledin, As you know 2.6 will be a while in coming, so let's add NGPT to our distro, remember we want to be somewhat distinct from other distros, and I think that NGPT will do that for us...I don't know of any other that is using NGPT. I am still looking for the programmer myself, so far no luck as well. By the way, just out of morbid curiousity -- and yes I know 'Curiousity killed that cat, but the cat came back the very next day, the cat came back I thought he was a goner -- where are you from, because you have such a cool name, sounds like something out of a fantasy novel?! Michael On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:26:42 -0600, "Kelledin" <kel...@sk...> said: > On Thursday 20 March 2003 04:54 pm, Michael Lauzon wrote: > > You were talking about using pThreads -- if I remember > > correctly in our Linux distro -- I wonder if this is still the > > case. Also, I noticed that Slackware is using the 2.4.20 > > kernel pacthed with pTrace...I am also wondering if pTrace & > > pThreads are related. Also, have you found a person who can > > program our installation interface yet? > > I was considering IBM's NextGen POSIX Threads (NGPT) a while > back. Supposed to be fully POSIX-compliant and more scalable > than the default LinuxThreads. Come kernel 2.6, though, that's > liable to be superseded and outclassed by New POSIX Threading > Library (NPTL). So I think we'll stick with the default > LinuxThreads until the threading scene settles down... > > The ptrace patch is a recent patch for a kernel security vuln > discovered a few days ago; AFAIK it's a debugger-oriented > mechanism that has nothing to do with extra threading > functionality. It's due to go into Gestation as soon as I get a > chance, because it _is_ a security vuln, after all. ;) > > As for the installation interface coder...no luck yet. :( Still > scoping around a bit. If my current plans gel properly, I'll > have a lot more time on my hands, so I might just take up that > task myself. > > -- > Kelledin > "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does > it still cost four figures to fix?" > > -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2003-03-21 01:27:09
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On Thursday 20 March 2003 04:54 pm, Michael Lauzon wrote: > You were talking about using pThreads -- if I remember > correctly in our Linux distro -- I wonder if this is still the > case. Also, I noticed that Slackware is using the 2.4.20 > kernel pacthed with pTrace...I am also wondering if pTrace & > pThreads are related. Also, have you found a person who can > program our installation interface yet? I was considering IBM's NextGen POSIX Threads (NGPT) a while=20 back. Supposed to be fully POSIX-compliant and more scalable=20 than the default LinuxThreads. Come kernel 2.6, though, that's=20 liable to be superseded and outclassed by New POSIX Threading=20 Library (NPTL). So I think we'll stick with the default=20 LinuxThreads until the threading scene settles down... The ptrace patch is a recent patch for a kernel security vuln=20 discovered a few days ago; AFAIK it's a debugger-oriented=20 mechanism that has nothing to do with extra threading=20 functionality. It's due to go into Gestation as soon as I get a=20 chance, because it _is_ a security vuln, after all. ;) As for the installation interface coder...no luck yet. :( Still=20 scoping around a bit. If my current plans gel properly, I'll=20 have a lot more time on my hands, so I might just take up that=20 task myself. --=20 Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-03-20 22:54:43
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Kelledin, You were talking about using pThreads -- if I remember correctly in our Linux distro -- I wonder if this is still the case. Also, I noticed that Slackware is using the 2.4.20 kernel pacthed with pTrace...I am also wondering if pTrace & pThreads are related. Also, have you found a person who can program our installation interface yet? Michael On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 13:05:25 -0600, "Kelledin" <kel...@sk...> said: > As far as the current ideas go... > > 1) I have no liking for webmail. A forwarding account > @inceptionos.org would be perfect; even if I an @inceptionos.org > inbox hosted at inceptionos.org, I'd probably just set it to > forward to my in-house IMAP server. I'm sure many others would > do so as well. > > 2) Forums........hmmm. I'd like the idea of forums better, if I > didn't keep seeing so many advisories for pre-rolled forum > scripts like phpBB. Any John Doe's personal bespoke forum > scripts (including what we might come up with) are probably just > as buggy and insecure, just not so widely deployed (and thus not > so widely exposed). I'd personally prefer newsgroups or mailing > lists to forums, especially since we ought to have mailing lists > in any case. > > For now, the Gestation archives will continue to grow. Currently > it's getting various bugfixes and updates. > > -- > Kelledin > "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does > it still cost four figures to fix?" > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Does your code think in ink? > You could win a Tablet PC. Get a free Tablet PC hat just for playing. > What are you waiting for? > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?micr5043en > _______________________________________________ > Maxlinux-devel mailing list > Max...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxlinux-devel > -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-03-19 05:49:37
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Kelledin, Web-based email is good for the people -- like me currently -- who don't have a computer or 'Net access from home...although everyone except me currently has those things. IPB is really well written, and even though it is still in v1.x I find it more stable than vB and/or uBB and their counterparts. Mailing lists are good, so are newsgroups...I've just never figured out how you create one. I have announced on SF -- last week -- that we need someone to help program an installtion interface but no one has gotten back to me, so I would like it if you could also post to places that you know of asking for programmers to help with the installtion program for iOS. Michael On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 13:05:25 -0600, "Kelledin" <kel...@sk...> said: > As far as the current ideas go... > > 1) I have no liking for webmail. A forwarding account > @inceptionos.org would be perfect; even if I an @inceptionos.org > inbox hosted at inceptionos.org, I'd probably just set it to > forward to my in-house IMAP server. I'm sure many others would > do so as well. > > 2) Forums........hmmm. I'd like the idea of forums better, if I > didn't keep seeing so many advisories for pre-rolled forum > scripts like phpBB. Any John Doe's personal bespoke forum > scripts (including what we might come up with) are probably just > as buggy and insecure, just not so widely deployed (and thus not > so widely exposed). I'd personally prefer newsgroups or mailing > lists to forums, especially since we ought to have mailing lists > in any case. > > For now, the Gestation archives will continue to grow. Currently > it's getting various bugfixes and updates. > > -- > Kelledin > "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does > it still cost four figures to fix?" > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Does your code think in ink? > You could win a Tablet PC. Get a free Tablet PC hat just for playing. > What are you waiting for? > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?micr5043en > _______________________________________________ > Maxlinux-devel mailing list > Max...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxlinux-devel > -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Consolidate POP email and Hotmail in one place |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2003-03-18 18:05:47
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As far as the current ideas go... 1) I have no liking for webmail. A forwarding account=20 @inceptionos.org would be perfect; even if I an @inceptionos.org=20 inbox hosted at inceptionos.org, I'd probably just set it to=20 forward to my in-house IMAP server. I'm sure many others would=20 do so as well. 2) Forums........hmmm. I'd like the idea of forums better, if I=20 didn't keep seeing so many advisories for pre-rolled forum=20 scripts like phpBB. Any John Doe's personal bespoke forum=20 scripts (including what we might come up with) are probably just=20 as buggy and insecure, just not so widely deployed (and thus not=20 so widely exposed). I'd personally prefer newsgroups or mailing=20 lists to forums, especially since we ought to have mailing lists=20 in any case. For now, the Gestation archives will continue to grow. Currently=20 it's getting various bugfixes and updates. --=20 Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2003-03-18 16:52:55
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My pet monkey insists that on Mar 18 2003 at 04:49PM Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> warbled: > IPB is written using PHP (and Zend I believe?), and can import the phpBB > database, and IPB is very feature rich and well written...so I believe > that would be the better one to use, and it is also free as well. :) OK - I'll take your word for it ;-) > Why not give the main PMs -- You (PM: Documentation and whatever else you > decide to work on in the project), Me (PM: Main and whatever else I > decide to work on in the project), Kelledin (PM: Packages and whatever > else he decides to work on in the project), and a PM: Installation > interface and whatever else that PM decides to work on when we get a new > PM for that part of the project seeing as how Enrico has disappeared) -- > access and install Webmin or some such program, that way we can keep > OpenWebMail, and not have to use system resources to constantly forward > mail to different email addresses. Hmm - I'll have a think about that. I dislike webmin, but I'm sure there are alternatives. I'll see what can be done. HTH -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it. |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-03-18 16:49:20
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Terry, IPB is written using PHP (and Zend I believe?), and can import the phpBB database, and IPB is very feature rich and well written...so I believe that would be the better one to use, and it is also free as well. :) Why not give the main PMs -- You (PM: Documentation and whatever else you decide to work on in the project), Me (PM: Main and whatever else I decide to work on in the project), Kelledin (PM: Packages and whatever else he decides to work on in the project), and a PM: Installation interface and whatever else that PM decides to work on when we get a new PM for that part of the project seeing as how Enrico has disappeared) -- access and install Webmin or some such program, that way we can keep OpenWebMail, and not have to use system resources to constantly forward mail to different email addresses. Michael On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:38:54 +0000, "Terry Churchill" <te...@do...> said: > My pet monkey insists that on Mar 18 2003 at 04:30PM > Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> warbled: > > > As you know Terry is having problems getting AnonFTP working on the > > machine where our site is currently being hosted. He did say he may be > > changing to a new machine running Debian -- tried installing Debian last > > year, and couldn't so the CDs went flying out the window, as did the > > Slackware CDs...had I ever tried LFS then I think my computer would go > > flying out the window! :) -- and he said AnonFTP will work...and so we'll > > have the following: > > :) I'll admit that I was defeated by the Debian installer a few years > ago, but > I've got the hang of it now ;-) > > > ftp.inceptionos.org (currently not working for anonymous users) > > > > bugzilla.inceptionos.org (currently up and running, but because we do not > > have anything for testers to test there are no bugs to report; once FTP > > is working and we get a NEW installation interface programmer because as > > I said before Enrico seems to have disappeared!) > > > > cvs.inceptionos.org (CVS repository for the development branch of iOS) > > webcvs.inceptionos.org (web frontend for CVS) > > These 3 won't be a problem. > > > www.inceptionos.org/openwebmail/ (currently running, but we need a better > > way to give our Developers and Testers @inceptionos.org email accounts > > instead of having to login to that admin site for inceptionos.org; > > although I forget what the URL for it is) > > I'll have a think about this, probably just forward $US...@in... > to > another account for most people... > > > forums.inceptionos.org (need something like this, would like to use IPB > > (Invision Power Board: http://www.invisionboard.com/; it's free to use, > > or you could by a USD$99 license so that you can remove the "Powered > > by...." waste of money when it's free) > > Sounds good, why not phpBB? Is IPB that much better? > > > www.inceptionos.org (we need to update GL to the newest version: 1.3.7 > > [stable]; this is a MUST, because we are still using RC2 of version > > 1.3.5) > > > > mailing lists for iOS, as it would be a good idea to take them locally > > and get them off of source forge. > > Yep - these will be created & powered by Mailman on the new machine, > which is > currently on it's way to it's final resting place. Shouldn't be too long > now. > > HTH > > -- > Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ > > "Oh, *that*," said Vimes. "I was talking about policing, not alcohol. > There's lots of people will help you with the alcohol business, but > there's > no one out there arranging little meetings where you can stand up and > say, > 'My name's Sam and I'm a really suspicious bastard.'" > -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2003-03-18 16:39:23
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My pet monkey insists that on Mar 18 2003 at 04:30PM Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> warbled: > As you know Terry is having problems getting AnonFTP working on the > machine where our site is currently being hosted. He did say he may be > changing to a new machine running Debian -- tried installing Debian last > year, and couldn't so the CDs went flying out the window, as did the > Slackware CDs...had I ever tried LFS then I think my computer would go > flying out the window! :) -- and he said AnonFTP will work...and so we'll > have the following: :) I'll admit that I was defeated by the Debian installer a few years ago, but I've got the hang of it now ;-) > ftp.inceptionos.org (currently not working for anonymous users) > > bugzilla.inceptionos.org (currently up and running, but because we do not > have anything for testers to test there are no bugs to report; once FTP > is working and we get a NEW installation interface programmer because as > I said before Enrico seems to have disappeared!) > > cvs.inceptionos.org (CVS repository for the development branch of iOS) > webcvs.inceptionos.org (web frontend for CVS) These 3 won't be a problem. > www.inceptionos.org/openwebmail/ (currently running, but we need a better > way to give our Developers and Testers @inceptionos.org email accounts > instead of having to login to that admin site for inceptionos.org; > although I forget what the URL for it is) I'll have a think about this, probably just forward $US...@in... to another account for most people... > forums.inceptionos.org (need something like this, would like to use IPB > (Invision Power Board: http://www.invisionboard.com/; it's free to use, > or you could by a USD$99 license so that you can remove the "Powered > by...." waste of money when it's free) Sounds good, why not phpBB? Is IPB that much better? > www.inceptionos.org (we need to update GL to the newest version: 1.3.7 > [stable]; this is a MUST, because we are still using RC2 of version > 1.3.5) > > mailing lists for iOS, as it would be a good idea to take them locally > and get them off of source forge. Yep - these will be created & powered by Mailman on the new machine, which is currently on it's way to it's final resting place. Shouldn't be too long now. HTH -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ "Oh, *that*," said Vimes. "I was talking about policing, not alcohol. There's lots of people will help you with the alcohol business, but there's no one out there arranging little meetings where you can stand up and say, 'My name's Sam and I'm a really suspicious bastard.'" |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-03-18 16:30:34
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Kelledin, As you know Terry is having problems getting AnonFTP working on the machine where our site is currently being hosted. He did say he may be changing to a new machine running Debian -- tried installing Debian last year, and couldn't so the CDs went flying out the window, as did the Slackware CDs...had I ever tried LFS then I think my computer would go flying out the window! :) -- and he said AnonFTP will work...and so we'll have the following: ftp.inceptionos.org (currently not working for anonymous users) bugzilla.inceptionos.org (currently up and running, but because we do not have anything for testers to test there are no bugs to report; once FTP is working and we get a NEW installation interface programmer because as I said before Enrico seems to have disappeared!) cvs.inceptionos.org (CVS repository for the development branch of iOS) webcvs.inceptionos.org (web frontend for CVS) www.inceptionos.org/openwebmail/ (currently running, but we need a better way to give our Developers and Testers @inceptionos.org email accounts instead of having to login to that admin site for inceptionos.org; although I forget what the URL for it is) forums.inceptionos.org (need something like this, would like to use IPB (Invision Power Board: http://www.invisionboard.com/; it's free to use, or you could by a USD$99 license so that you can remove the "Powered by...." waste of money when it's free) www.inceptionos.org (we need to update GL to the newest version: 1.3.7 [stable]; this is a MUST, because we are still using RC2 of version 1.3.5) mailing lists for iOS, as it would be a good idea to take them locally and get them off of source forge. Some of my ideas, tell me what ones we should use! Michael On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:04:55 -0600, "Kelledin" <kel...@sk...> said: > All packages have been updated and slipstreamed into Gestation. > The current Gestation package set now includes KDE 3.1, Gnome > 2.2, and various other updates. Current Gestation archives are > located at: > > ftp://skarpsey.dyndns.org/gestation/i486/ for i486 > ftp://skarpsey.dyndns.org/gestation/alpha/ for alpha > > (On behalf of my puny 256K upstream bandwidth, I plead with > everyone not to hammer skarpsey.dyndns.org! ;) > > The documentation has been updated again: > > http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.kwd > http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.pdf > http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.ps > > I'd prefer not to post an announcement on www.inceptionos.org > until the following gets done: > > 1) ftp.inceptionos.org is up, and I'm able to upload the > Gestation archives. > > 2) we decide on a Gestation mailing list and get it set up > (ge...@in...? ge...@li...?). > > 3) the documentation is formatted for online viewing. > > -- > Kelledin > "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does > it still cost four figures to fix?" > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by:Crypto Challenge is now open! > Get cracking and register here for some mind boggling fun and > the chance of winning an Apple iPod: > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0031en > _______________________________________________ > Maxlinux-devel mailing list > Max...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxlinux-devel > -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2003-03-17 21:05:22
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All packages have been updated and slipstreamed into Gestation. =20 The current Gestation package set now includes KDE 3.1, Gnome=20 2.2, and various other updates. Current Gestation archives are=20 located at: ftp://skarpsey.dyndns.org/gestation/i486/ for i486 ftp://skarpsey.dyndns.org/gestation/alpha/ for alpha (On behalf of my puny 256K upstream bandwidth, I plead with=20 everyone not to hammer skarpsey.dyndns.org! ;) The documentation has been updated again: http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.kwd http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.pdf http://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/gestation.ps I'd prefer not to post an announcement on www.inceptionos.org=20 until the following gets done: 1) ftp.inceptionos.org is up, and I'm able to upload the=20 Gestation archives. 2) we decide on a Gestation mailing list and get it set up (ge...@in...? ge...@li...?). 3) the documentation is formatted for online viewing. --=20 Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-03-13 16:27:49
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Terry, That would be excellent, although we need to find a new installation interface programmer, as it seems Enrico has disappeard from the face of the Earth...I emailed him in December and never got a reply. I have posted the job on SourceForge, but have not had any bites. Michael On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:11:57 +0000, "Terry Churchill" <te...@do...> said: > My pet monkey insists that on Mar 12 2003 at 06:52PM > Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> warbled: > > > Thanks. Any news on our move over the the other machine that you > > mentioned last week, also if we do move to the other machine...will > > AnonFTP work? > > I'll be delivering the new machine this Friday & hope to have it > racked up by early next week. > > Yes - anonftp *will* work ;-) I can also provide us with cvs if > need be, along with cvsweb... > > HTH > -- > Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ > > Your proctologist called; he found your head. > -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2003-03-13 07:12:14
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My pet monkey insists that on Mar 12 2003 at 06:52PM Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> warbled: > Thanks. Any news on our move over the the other machine that you > mentioned last week, also if we do move to the other machine...will > AnonFTP work? I'll be delivering the new machine this Friday & hope to have it racked up by early next week. Yes - anonftp *will* work ;-) I can also provide us with cvs if need be, along with cvsweb... HTH -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ Your proctologist called; he found your head. |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-03-12 18:52:45
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Terry, Thanks. Any news on our move over the the other machine that you mentioned last week, also if we do move to the other machine...will AnonFTP work? Michael On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:29:33 +0000, "Terry Churchill" <te...@do...> said: > My pet monkey insists that on Mar 12 2003 at 05:07PM > Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> warbled: > > > Having problems with the IOS server, able to log into my mail and then > > the server goes all screwy like it's going to crash and then when I try > > to log back into my mail it takes forever. Can you please check it out > > when you have time. > > Yeah - there's some packet loss problems ATM :( I've got the network > guys looking at it. > > HTH > -- > Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ > > DUMMY MODE, n. The mode in which a user, overcome by technical terms, > will believe, and/or do, anything he or she is told. > -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2003-03-12 18:29:53
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My pet monkey insists that on Mar 12 2003 at 05:07PM Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> warbled: > Having problems with the IOS server, able to log into my mail and then > the server goes all screwy like it's going to crash and then when I try > to log back into my mail it takes forever. Can you please check it out > when you have time. Yeah - there's some packet loss problems ATM :( I've got the network guys looking at it. HTH -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ DUMMY MODE, n. The mode in which a user, overcome by technical terms, will believe, and/or do, anything he or she is told. |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2003-03-12 17:07:27
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Terry, Having problems with the IOS server, able to log into my mail and then the server goes all screwy like it's going to crash and then when I try to log back into my mail it takes forever. Can you please check it out when you have time. Thanks. Michael --=20 http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... fastmail=85 |
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