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From: Henry B. <hb...@pi...> - 2014-09-03 18:23:57
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Since I'm so dense, what would be the probability when the group has size _one_; i.e., choose a from the top 1% of A and choose b from the top 1% of B; what is the probability that a beats b ? BTW, I tried "laplace" and "ilt", but they didn't work. More precisely, "laplace" seemed to work ok, but "ilt" failed miserably. I also noticed that integrate(foo(x)*unit_step(x),x,minf,inf) isn't smart enough to simplify to integrate(foo(x),x,0,inf). At 11:00 AM 9/3/2014, Robert Dodier wrote: >On 2014-09-03, Henry Baker <hb...@pi...> wrote: > >> On a particular Olympic sport, the abilities of any individual >> in a population is normally distributed. >> >> Thus, for country A, with population Ap, mean Am, variance Av, >> the abilities of the individuals follow a normal distribution. >> >> Clearly, each country will choose from the upper tail of the >> distribution -- its highest 1%, for example. >> >> What is the probability that a 1% athlete from A will beat a 1% >> athlete from B, given the population, mean and variance of each country ? > >We are looking for P(ability(A) - ability(B) > 0) where ability(A) >and ability(B) are Gaussian tail distributions. That is, not the >entire bump (i.e. national population) but just the 1% who >are sent to the games. I think Maxima can figure out the density of >ability(A) - ability(B) exactly, but one must be careful with the >limits of integration in the convolution since we are working with >just the tails. Note sure if Maxima can then compute P(diff > 0) >since that requires another integration. > >I worked on a related problem recently. For the record: >http://maxima-solved.blogspot.com/2014/06/probability-density-of-sum-of-gamma-and.html > >> Now, suppose that we have a _group sport_ which requires a small >> number (k) athletes, and that the performance of each country is >> additive -- e.g., the gymnastics "team" medal, where the team is >> of size k. >> >> Now, what is the probability that country A will beat country B ? > >Well, for k larger than a few, the group ability is nearly Gaussian >even though the individual abilities are very non-Gaussian (via >central limit theorem). So one can come up with an approximation >more easily in the group case. > >Sounds like fun -- good luck. > >Robert Dodier |