Re: [Matplotlib-users] [matplotlib-devel] 1.4.3 does not build on Ubuntu 14 with python3

[Benjamin R. <ben...@ou...>]

For my part, I didn't take Keith's comment as antagonizing. If anything, I
should apologize to Sandro. It was not necessary for me to drag Debian into
this, because all I know is that I was having issues on Ubuntu.

Ben Root

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Thomas Caswell <tca...@gm...> wrote:

> We do support ubuntu, travis.ci (which we use for continuous integration
> testing) is ubuntu based and my main development box is ubuntu (but I
> mostly work inside conda environments rather than virtualenvs these days).
> Even though it is the worst thing for a dev to say, 'it works on my
> machine'.
>
> Part of the problem here is that it looks like you are doing system-wide
> installations from source so you have almost certainly driven your system
> into an inconsistent state.  Unless you know enough sys-admin magic to
> ensure you won't step on the toes of the system packages, I strongly
> suggest _never_ using sudo to install python packages.  Either use
> venv/conda or install into a directory in your home directory and modify
> $PYTHONPATH as needed.
>
>  I know it is frustrating, but there isn't a whole lot we can do to help
> you with you knowing exactly what you have done to your system.
>
> In any case antagonizing the developers and the debian packager is _not_
> the most effective course of action.  I assure you all of us are making a
> good faith effort to make sure mpl works everywhere.  Starting from that
> assumption will make all of these conversations go much more smoothly.
> Also remember everyone responding to you on this list is a volunteer,
> please be respectful of our time and energy.
>
> Tom
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:27 PM Benjamin Root <ben...@ou...> wrote:
>
>> We would too. This is the first time I have seen updating setuptools not
>> work. That was the fix... I have no clue why it is broken on your system.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:20 PM, <kei...@bt...> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I will check out anaconda anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would think that the matplotlib maintainers would want to make sure
>>> they support the very popular Ubuntu platform, even if a workaround for a
>>> bug elsewhere is needed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> K
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ben...@gm... [mailto:ben...@gm...] *On Behalf
>>> Of *Benjamin Root
>>> *Sent:* 18 March 2015 17:17
>>> *To:* Briggs,KM,Keith,TUB2 R; Matplotlib Users
>>>
>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [matplotlib-devel] 1.4.3 does not build on Ubuntu 14
>>> with python3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One thing I just noticed is that python3.4 and the distutils libraries
>>> are installed at /usr/lib/python3.4/distutils/, but the setuptools is
>>> located at /usr/local/lib/python3.4/dist-packages/. One of the oddities
>>> of setuptools is that it monkey-patches distutils, if I understand it
>>> correctly, so perhaps it isn't doing it correctly for some reason? I
>>> haven't a clue, really.
>>>
>>> This oddity in directory structures was actually one thing I noticed in
>>> Ubuntu last summer/fall for py2.7 that broke a lot of things for me. I was
>>> in a rush at the time, so I just switched to anaconda, nuked everything
>>> python in my .local and moved on. That is always an option here, but it
>>> would be nice to get to the bottom of this as well.
>>>
>>> Ben Root
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:03 PM, <kei...@bt...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ben: thanks for your help - it's very much appreciated!
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> kbriggs:~/Downloads/matplotlib-1.4.3> python3
>>> Python 3.4.0 (default, Apr 11 2014, 13:05:11)
>>> [GCC 4.8.2] on linux
>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> import setuptools
>>> >>> print(setuptools.__file__)
>>> /usr/local/lib/python3.4/dist-packages/setuptools-14.3-py3.
>>> 4.egg/setuptools/__init__.py
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> kbriggs:~/Downloads/matplotlib-1.4.3> python
>>> Python 2.7.6 (default, Mar 22 2014, 22:59:56)
>>> [GCC 4.8.2] on linux2
>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> import setuptools
>>> >>> print(setuptools.__file__)
>>> /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/setuptools/__init__.pyc
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: ben...@gm... [ben...@gm...] On Behalf Of Benjamin
>>> Root [ben...@ou...]
>>> Sent: 18 March 2015 16:58
>>> To: Briggs,KM,Keith,TUB2 R
>>> Cc: matplotlib development list
>>> Subject: Re: [matplotlib-devel] 1.4.3 does not build on Ubuntu 14 with
>>> python3
>>>
>>> Keith,
>>>
>>> Back to the issue at hand. could you do the following?
>>>
>>> import setuptools
>>> print(setuptools.__file__)
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to see if that path differs from the path of the
>>> egg you just listed.
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:39 AM, <kei...@bt...<mailto:ke
>>> ith...@bt...>> wrote:
>>> pip still thinks I have the latest.   I think it's a question of how to
>>> force the matplotlib setup.py to use actually it.
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> kbriggs:~/Downloads/matplotlib-1.4.3> sudo pip3  install setuptools
>>> --upgrade
>>> Requirement already up-to-date: setuptools in
>>> /usr/local/lib/python3.4/dist-packages/setuptools-14.3-py3.4.egg
>>> Cleaning up...
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: ben...@gm...<mailto:ben...@gm...> [
>>> ben...@gm...<mailto:ben...@gm...>] On Behalf Of
>>> Benjamin Root [ben...@ou...<mailto:ben...@ou...>]
>>> Sent: 18 March 2015 15:33
>>> To: Briggs,KM,Keith,TUB2 R
>>> Cc: matplotlib development list
>>> Subject: Re: [matplotlib-devel] 1.4.3 does not build on Ubuntu 14 with
>>> python3
>>>
>>> I would just use pip. Ubuntu/Debian has really messed up the python
>>> environment in more ways than one.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:08 AM, keithbriggs <kei...@bt...
>>> <mailto:kei...@bt...><mailto:kei...@bt...<mailto:keith.
>>> br...@bt...>>> wrote:
>>> The Ubuntu package manager tells me it is up to date.
>>> If I download setuptools-14.3 and install, it goes into /usr/local/lib/
>>> and
>>> doesn't get used.
>>> How do I force it to be used?
>>> Or am I supposed to override the Ubuntu package manager?
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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