Re: [M-dev]Re: True aim of marathon (and a 3D player model)

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In a message dated 1/27/01 1:16:12 PM, hav...@ma... writes:

<< Hardly an objective distinction. How about these:

1. Those who want Marathon to be as close as possible to original but
improved in ways that do not alter the parts of it we would like to
preserve, such as the gameplay.

2. Those who want to make a very different game based on the Marathon engine.

I side with #1: Improve Marathon, but keep the important stuff that
makes it better than other games. OpenGL is good because it makes the
graphics better, jumping and headshots are bad because they interfere
with existing maps and change the gameplay in unexpected ways. If you
want an ultra-realistic game play Deus Ex. If you want to have a lot of
fun, play Marathon. I would like that to remain true. >>

We don't have to make an entirely different game out of Marathon. Jumping and 
Headshots aren't bad. They're good. They just don't 'fit in' with the current 
Marathon content. OpenGL is good, and Deus Ex is good. If some people 
actually think headshots, jumping, fall damage, and all of that good stuff 
are bad, let's dump the current build out as a final release and continue on 
without compatibility worries to block progress. Also, when you said "If you 
want an ultra-realistic game play Deus Ex. If you want to have a lot of fun, 
play Marathon", playing ultra-realistic games aren't another type of emotion, 
they just make you feel more like you're really in that situation. Deus Ex is 
fun, in fact, it's more fun than Marathon (this is my opinion). However, we 
wouldn't need to copy Deus Ex to make Marathon competitive with it (on the 
enjoyment level). We don't need to make it where you have to look at a weapon 
and press the action key to pick it up. We don't need to make it where you 
can hack computers and hot-wire security systems. We don't need to make it 
where police gun you down for breaking and entering. We just need to make it 
more believable. I'm thinking about a happy medium between Marathon and Deus 
Ex. Realistic, but not so difficult that some people would just walk away 
with frustration.

Hannibal