Re: [M-dev]Re: True aim of marathon (and a 3D player model)

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In a message dated 1/24/01 3:32:09 PM, stu...@ma... writes:

<< it seems to me that there's two types of people out there.

1.  the kind that want to keep marathon the same.

2.  the kind that want to add tons of features to make the game more
enjoyable.

personally, i think i'm with the number 2's.  i thought, at first, that the
point of the aleph team was to make the game better, not to see how much we
can keep it the same.  sadly, though, i think most of the people on this
list tend to be 1's.  the reason why i think this sucks is because aleph one
could turn into such a diverse game engine, where die hard marathoners could
make a true marathon-style adventure, whereas others can make the same, or
branch off into something totally different.  the argument here is "but we
just want to keep it as marathon, not turn it into quake!"  well, it'll
hardly be quake.  as long as the scenario designer puts in a good story (or
any story at all), it won't be quake.  you all say "Why?" when it comes to
putting in new features, i say "Well why the hell not?"  will it ruin YOUR
die-hard marathon experience?  no, because the game will be completely
customizable.  you will make your scenario true to marathon, with sprites
and all, with awesome story, you guys know who you are.  but then there's
some of us who loved the marathon engine who would love to see total
improvement and awesome expandability.  so if we can keep it as "either/or",
who cares what features are added?  nobody's invading into your own marathon
universe.  use it if you like, don't use it if you hate it.  well the bottom
line is that it's solely up to the developers, so if the developers all say
"NO, SHUT UP!" to jumping, then hey, do it yourself or find someone else to
do it.  if one of the developers decides that the main character be a
gliding piece of poo, then hey, LIVE WITH IT.  if you're not a developer, do
what i do, and sit in the sidelines.

and on a side note, i've made a player model of 171 vertices and 326
triangles (faces).  does anyone have a clue wether that's enough, too much,
too low (it does look kinda funky at parts).  if anyone does know, let me
know if i should totally redo it.  it won't be a problem if i have to, it
only took me a few hours to do it.  thanks dudes.
 >>

I wonder why people are all type 1's as well. Instead of still making 
Marathon scenarios, I think we should be able to make OUR SCENARIOS. If you 
ever, EVER worked on a Marathon scenario and didn't think at least once, "If 
only Bungie had <fill in the blank>, I could actually do this neat trick", 
I'd like to know. I spent a lot of time thinking of how I could make my 
scenario act LIKE I WANTED. Actually, I've thought that about every stinking 
scenario I've thought up that never got out of planning stage because 
Marathon just couldn't handle it. My primary barrier has been killed (thanks 
for sprite substitution, Loren), and now I'm looking into a broader scope of 
enhancements. I don't care if you use them (should I get them), but I will, 
and my scenario will be better for it.

Hannibal