Which @xemacs.org e-mail addresses are being used?

[Joseph S D Y. <js...@tu...>]

OK, I said I'd take care of this, and I will.  My apologies if this is
going out to too many people, but with so many mailing lists involved,
I'd rather that this get to everyone who needs to see it than miss a
number of important addressees.

We need to clean up the @xemacs.org addresses being hosted on @tux.org.
Right now, they are merged in with all other @tux.org e-mail addresses.

The first list that follows is the list of aliases defined by the xemacs
aliases file.  As aliases, they are indistinguishable from any other
e-mail addresses coming onto this e-mail host.  One problem is, that
some of these conflict with other aliases, specifically:

MAILER-DAEMON, hostmaster, mailman, mailman-owner, postmaster, webmaster

Another problem is that no...@xe... users are being sent SPAM to
@xemacs.org mail addresses, and don't like it.

The second list below is that of the e-mail addresses in the alias
definitions who are in the @xemacs.org domain.  Some of them don't even
exist!

I am going to fix the problem by making @xemacs.org into a partial
virtual domain, rather than having it [as now] as another name for
@tux.org.

QUESTIONS:

(1) Are all the mailing lists in List 1, below, still needed and used?
More specifically, are there any I should throw out?  [And if any of
them bounces, I am throwing it out - or at least commenting it out.]

(2) Are the aliases in /etc/mail/aliases-xemacs still valid?  Are there
any translations that need to change?

(3) Are there any more e-mail addresses that should respond to
@xemacs.org than the ones listed below?  Because if I don't explicitly
include them, they will no longer be part of the @xemacs.org domain.

(4) Are there real e-mail addresses that should be associated with the
alias targets that don't exist (in List 2)?

(5) What are your maintenance needs for these mailing lists?

(6) Is there any need to make this a full virtual domain, so that any
and ALL e-mail sent by certain users will appear to be coming from
@xemacs.org?

Thanks!

List 1 - aliases
=======================================================================

MAILER-DAEMON
ada-bugs
ada-discuss
ada-maintainer
ada-patches
apel-bugs
apel-discuss
apel-maintainer
apel-patches
auctex-bugs
auctex-discuss
auctex-maintainer
auctex-patches
bbdb-announce
bbdb-announce-request
bbdb-bugs
bbdb-discuss
bbdb-info
bbdb-info-request
bbdb-maintainer
bbdb-patches
bugs
c-support-bugs
c-support-discuss
c-support-maintainer
c-support-patches
calc-bugs
calc-discuss
calc-maintainer
calc-patches
calendar-bugs
calendar-discuss
calendar-maintainer
calendar-patches
cookie-bugs
cookie-discuss
cookie-maintainer
cookie-patches
crashes
crisp-bugs
crisp-discuss
crisp-maintainer
crisp-patches
cvs-manager
cvs-manager-archive
debug-bugs
debug-discuss
debug-maintainer
debug-patches
dired-bugs
dired-discuss
dired-maintainer
dired-patches
edebug-bugs
edebug-discuss
edebug-maintainer
edebug-patches
edict-bugs
edict-discuss
edict-maintainer
edict-patches
ediff-bugs
ediff-discuss
ediff-maintainer
ediff-patches
edit-utils-bugs
edit-utils-discuss
edit-utils-maintainer
edit-utils-patches
edt-bugs
edt-discuss
edt-maintainer
edt-patches
efs-bugs
efs-discuss
efs-maintainer
efs-patches
egg-its-bugs
egg-its-discuss
egg-its-maintainer
egg-its-patches
eicq-bugs
eicq-discuss
eicq-maintainer
eicq-patches
eieio-bugs
eieio-discuss
eieio-maintainer
eieio-patches
elib-bugs
elib-discuss
elib-maintainer
elib-patches
emerge-bugs
emerge-discuss
emerge-maintainer
emerge-patches
escreen-bugs
escreen-discuss
escreen-maintainer
escreen-patches
eshell-bugs
eshell-discuss
eshell-maintainer
eshell-patches
eterm-bugs
eterm-discuss
eterm-maintainer
eterm-patches
eudc-bugs
eudc-discuss
eudc-maintainer
eudc-patches
faq
faq-maintainer
footnote-bugs
footnote-discuss
footnote-maintainer
footnote-patches
forms-bugs
forms-discuss
forms-maintainer
forms-patches
frame-icon-bugs
frame-icon-discuss
frame-icon-maintainer
frame-icon-patches
fsf-compat-bugs
fsf-compat-discuss
fsf-compat-maintainer
fsf-compat-patches
games-bugs
games-discuss
games-maintainer
games-patches
gnats-admin
gnats-bugs
gnats-discuss
gnats-maintainer
gnats-patches
gnus-bugs
gnus-discuss
gnus-maintainer
gnus-patches
hm--html-menus-bugs
hm--html-menus-discuss
hm--html-menus-maintainer
hm--html-menus-patches
hostmaster
hyperbole-bugs
hyperbole-discuss
hyperbole-maintainer
hyperbole-patches
idlwave-bugs
idlwave-discuss
idlwave-maintainer
idlwave-patches
igrep-bugs
igrep-discuss
igrep-maintainer
igrep-patches
ilisp-bugs
ilisp-discuss
ilisp-maintainer
ilisp-patches
ispell-bugs
ispell-discuss
ispell-maintainer
ispell-patches
jde-bugs
jde-discuss
jde-maintainer
jde-patches
kit-manager
latin-euro-standards-bugs
latin-euro-standards-discuss
latin-euro-standards-maintainer
latin-euro-standards-patches
latin-unity-bugs
latin-unity-discuss
latin-unity-maintainer
latin-unity-patches
leim-bugs
leim-discuss
leim-maintainer
leim-patches
list-manager
locale-bugs
locale-discuss
locale-maintainer
locale-patches
lookup-bugs
lookup-discuss
lookup-maintainer
lookup-patches
mail-lib-bugs
mail-lib-discuss
mail-lib-maintainer
mail-lib-patches
mailcrypt-bugs
mailcrypt-discuss
mailcrypt-maintainer
mailcrypt-patches
mailman
mailman-owner
majordomo
majordomo-owner
majordomo-xemacs
mew-bugs
mew-discuss
mew-maintainer
mew-patches
mh-e-bugs
mh-e-discuss
mh-e-maintainer
mh-e-patches
mine-bugs
mine-discuss
mine-maintainer
mine-patches
misc-games-bugs
misc-games-discuss
misc-games-maintainer
misc-games-patches
mule-base-bugs
mule-base-discuss
mule-base-maintainer
mule-base-patches
net-utils-bugs
net-utils-discuss
net-utils-maintainer
net-utils-patches
oo-browser-bugs
oo-browser-discuss
oo-browser-maintainer
oo-browser-patches
os-utils-bugs
os-utils-discuss
os-utils-maintainer
os-utils-patches
owner-bbdb-announce
owner-bbdb-info
owner-majordomo
owner-majordomo-xemacs
owner-w3-announce
owner-w3-beta
owner-w3-bugs
owner-w3-dev
pc-bugs
pc-discuss
pc-maintainer
pc-patches
pcl-cvs-bugs
pcl-cvs-discuss
pcl-cvs-maintainer
pcl-cvs-patches
pcomplete-bugs
pcomplete-discuss
pcomplete-maintainer
pcomplete-patches
postmaster
prog-modes-bugs
prog-modes-discuss
prog-modes-maintainer
prog-modes-patches
ps-print-nomule-bugs
ps-print-nomule-discuss
ps-print-nomule-maintainer
ps-print-nomule-patches
psgml-bugs
psgml-discuss
psgml-maintainer
psgml-patches
python-mode-bugs
python-mode-discuss
python-mode-maintainer
python-mode-patches
reftex-bugs
reftex-discuss
reftex-maintainer
reftex-patches
rmail-bugs
rmail-discuss
rmail-maintainer
rmail-patches
scheme-bugs
scheme-discuss
scheme-maintainer
scheme-patches
semantic-bugs
semantic-discuss
semantic-maintainer
semantic-patches
sgml-bugs
sgml-discuss
sgml-maintainer
sgml-patches
sh-script-bugs
sh-script-discuss
sh-script-maintainer
sh-script-patches
skk-bugs
skk-discuss
skk-maintainer
skk-patches
slider-bugs
slider-discuss
slider-maintainer
slider-patches
sounds-au-bugs
sounds-au-discuss
sounds-au-maintainer
sounds-au-patches
sounds-wav-bugs
sounds-wav-discuss
sounds-wav-maintainer
sounds-wav-patches
speedbar-bugs
speedbar-discuss
speedbar-maintainer
speedbar-patches
sql-mode-bugs
sql-mode-discuss
sql-mode-maintainer
sql-mode-patches
strokes-bugs
strokes-discuss
strokes-maintainer
strokes-patches
sun-bugs
sun-discuss
sun-maintainer
sun-patches
supercite-bugs
supercite-discuss
supercite-maintainer
supercite-patches
texinfo-bugs
texinfo-discuss
texinfo-maintainer
texinfo-patches
text-modes-bugs
text-modes-discuss
text-modes-maintainer
text-modes-patches
textools-bugs
textools-discuss
textools-maintainer
textools-patches
time-bugs
time-discuss
time-maintainer
time-patches
tm-bugs
tm-discuss
tm-maintainer
tm-patches
tooltalk-bugs
tooltalk-discuss
tooltalk-maintainer
tooltalk-patches
tpu-bugs
tpu-discuss
tpu-maintainer
tpu-patches
vc-bugs
vc-cc-bugs
vc-cc-discuss
vc-cc-maintainer
vc-cc-patches
vc-discuss
vc-maintainer
vc-patches
vhdl-bugs
vhdl-discuss
vhdl-maintainer
vhdl-patches
view-process-bugs
view-process-discuss
view-process-maintainer
view-process-patches
viper-bugs
viper-discuss
viper-maintainer
viper-patches
vm-bugs
vm-discuss
vm-maintainer
vm-patches
w3-announce
w3-announce-approval
w3-announce-out
w3-announce-request
w3-beta
w3-beta-approval
w3-beta-out
w3-beta-request
w3-bugs
w3-bugs-approval
w3-bugs-out
w3-bugs-request
w3-dev
w3-dev-approval
w3-dev-out
w3-dev-request
w3-discuss
w3-maintainer
w3-patches
webmast
webmaster
xemacadm
xemacs
xemacs-admin
xemacs-admin-admin
xemacs-admin-bounces
xemacs-admin-confirm
xemacs-admin-join
xemacs-admin-leave
xemacs-admin-mailman
xemacs-admin-owner
xemacs-admin-request
xemacs-admin-subscribe
xemacs-admin-unsubscribe
xemacs-announce
xemacs-announce-admin
xemacs-announce-archivist
xemacs-announce-bounces
xemacs-announce-confirm
xemacs-announce-join
xemacs-announce-leave
xemacs-announce-mailman
xemacs-announce-owner
xemacs-announce-request
xemacs-announce-subscribe
xemacs-announce-unsubscribe
xemacs-base-bugs
xemacs-base-discuss
xemacs-base-maintainer
xemacs-base-patches
xemacs-beta
xemacs-beta-admin
xemacs-beta-archive
xemacs-beta-bounces
xemacs-beta-confirm
xemacs-beta-ja
xemacs-beta-ja-admin
xemacs-beta-ja-archive
xemacs-beta-ja-bounces
xemacs-beta-ja-confirm
xemacs-beta-ja-join
xemacs-beta-ja-leave
xemacs-beta-ja-mailman
xemacs-beta-ja-owner
xemacs-beta-ja-request
xemacs-beta-ja-subscribe
xemacs-beta-ja-unsubscribe
xemacs-beta-join
xemacs-beta-leave
xemacs-beta-mailman
xemacs-beta-owner
xemacs-beta-request
xemacs-beta-subscribe
xemacs-beta-unsubscribe
xemacs-build-reports
xemacs-build-reports-admin
xemacs-build-reports-request
xemacs-buildreports
xemacs-buildreports-admin
xemacs-buildreports-archive
xemacs-buildreports-bounces
xemacs-buildreports-confirm
xemacs-buildreports-join
xemacs-buildreports-leave
xemacs-buildreports-mailman
xemacs-buildreports-owner
xemacs-buildreports-request
xemacs-buildreports-subscribe
xemacs-buildreports-unsubscribe
xemacs-crashes
xemacs-crashes-admin
xemacs-crashes-archive
xemacs-crashes-bounces
xemacs-crashes-confirm
xemacs-crashes-join
xemacs-crashes-leave
xemacs-crashes-mailman
xemacs-crashes-owner
xemacs-crashes-request
xemacs-crashes-subscribe
xemacs-crashes-unsubscribe
xemacs-cvs
xemacs-cvs-admin
xemacs-cvs-archive
xemacs-cvs-bounces
xemacs-cvs-confirm
xemacs-cvs-join
xemacs-cvs-leave
xemacs-cvs-mailman
xemacs-cvs-owner
xemacs-cvs-request
xemacs-cvs-subscribe
xemacs-cvs-unsubscribe
xemacs-design
xemacs-design-admin
xemacs-design-archivist
xemacs-design-bounces
xemacs-design-confirm
xemacs-design-join
xemacs-design-leave
xemacs-design-mailman
xemacs-design-owner
xemacs-design-request
xemacs-design-subscribe
xemacs-design-unsubscribe
xemacs-devel-bugs
xemacs-devel-discuss
xemacs-devel-maintainer
xemacs-devel-patches
xemacs-gnats
xemacs-mailmaint
xemacs-mailmaint-admin
xemacs-mailmaint-bounces
xemacs-mailmaint-confirm
xemacs-mailmaint-join
xemacs-mailmaint-leave
xemacs-mailmaint-mailman
xemacs-mailmaint-owner
xemacs-mailmaint-request
xemacs-mailmaint-subscribe
xemacs-mailmaint-unsubscribe
xemacs-mirrors
xemacs-mirrors-admin
xemacs-mirrors-bounces
xemacs-mirrors-confirm
xemacs-mirrors-join
xemacs-mirrors-leave
xemacs-mirrors-owner
xemacs-mirrors-request
xemacs-mirrors-subscribe
xemacs-mirrors-unsubscribe
xemacs-mule
xemacs-mule-admin
xemacs-mule-archive
xemacs-mule-bounces
xemacs-mule-confirm
xemacs-mule-join
xemacs-mule-leave
xemacs-mule-mailman
xemacs-mule-owner
xemacs-mule-request
xemacs-mule-subscribe
xemacs-mule-unsubscribe
xemacs-news
xemacs-news-admin
xemacs-news-archive
xemacs-news-bounces
xemacs-news-confirm
xemacs-news-join
xemacs-news-leave
xemacs-news-mailman
xemacs-news-owner
xemacs-news-request
xemacs-news-subscribe
xemacs-news-unsubscribe
xemacs-nt
xemacs-nt-admin
xemacs-nt-request
xemacs-patches
xemacs-patches-admin
xemacs-patches-archive
xemacs-patches-bounces
xemacs-patches-confirm
xemacs-patches-join
xemacs-patches-leave
xemacs-patches-mailman
xemacs-patches-owner
xemacs-patches-request
xemacs-patches-subscribe
xemacs-patches-unsubscribe
xemacs-request
xemacs-review
xemacs-review-admin
xemacs-review-archive
xemacs-review-bounces
xemacs-review-confirm
xemacs-review-join
xemacs-review-leave
xemacs-review-mailman
xemacs-review-owner
xemacs-review-request
xemacs-review-subscribe
xemacs-review-unsubscribe
xemacs-test
xemacs-test-admin
xemacs-test-archive
xemacs-test-bounces
xemacs-test-confirm
xemacs-test-join
xemacs-test-leave
xemacs-test-mailman
xemacs-test-owner
xemacs-test-request
xemacs-test-subscribe
xemacs-test-unsubscribe
xemacs-users-ja
xemacs-users-ja-admin
xemacs-users-ja-archive
xemacs-users-ja-bounces
xemacs-users-ja-confirm
xemacs-users-ja-join
xemacs-users-ja-leave
xemacs-users-ja-mailman
xemacs-users-ja-owner
xemacs-users-ja-request
xemacs-users-ja-subscribe
xemacs-users-ja-unsubscribe
xemacs-users-ru
xemacs-users-ru-admin
xemacs-users-ru-archive
xemacs-users-ru-bounces
xemacs-users-ru-confirm
xemacs-users-ru-join
xemacs-users-ru-leave
xemacs-users-ru-mailman
xemacs-users-ru-owner
xemacs-users-ru-request
xemacs-users-ru-subscribe
xemacs-users-ru-unsubscribe
xemacs-webmaint
xemacs-webmaint-admin
xemacs-webmaint-bounces
xemacs-webmaint-confirm
xemacs-webmaint-join
xemacs-webmaint-leave
xemacs-webmaint-mailman
xemacs-webmaint-owner
xemacs-webmaint-request
xemacs-webmaint-subscribe
xemacs-webmaint-unsubscribe
xemacs-winnt
xemacs-winnt-admin
xemacs-winnt-archive
xemacs-winnt-bounces
xemacs-winnt-confirm
xemacs-winnt-join
xemacs-winnt-leave
xemacs-winnt-mailman
xemacs-winnt-owner
xemacs-winnt-request
xemacs-winnt-subscribe
xemacs-winnt-unsubscribe
xlib-bugs
xlib-discuss
xlib-maintainer
xlib-patches
xslt-process-bugs
xslt-process-discuss
xslt-process-maintainer
xslt-process-patches
xwem-bugs
xwem-discuss
xwem-maintainer
xwem-patches
zenirc-bugs
zenirc-discuss
zenirc-maintainer
zenirc-patches

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List 2 - @tux.org [no explicit domain] or @xemacs.org names in the alias
	 definitions
=======================================================================

adrian
andy
bugs
cvs-manager-archive
jason
majordomo-owner
owner-w3-announce 
owner-w3-beta  
owner-w3-bugs  
owner-w3-dev  
stephen
xemacs-admin
xemacs-beta
xemacs-buildreports
xemacs-buildreports-admin 
xemacs-buildreports-request 
xemacs-crashes
xemacs-mailmaint
xemacs-mailmaint  
xemacs-news
xemacs-news-request
xemacs-users-ru-archive
xemacs-webmaint
xemacs-winnt
xemacs-winnt-admin
xemacs-winnt-request
xemacweb
ad...@xe...
aid...@xe...
an...@xe...
di...@xe...
j_c...@xe...
ky...@xe...
ma...@xe...
mik...@xe...
os...@xe...
ov...@xe...
si...@xe...
st...@xe...
st...@xe...
tom...@xe...
vi...@xe...
w3...@xe...
wm...@xe...
xem...@xe...
xem...@xe...
yo...@xe...

NOTE:

adrian:	/etc/passwd
jason:	/etc/passwd
viteno:	/etc/passwd
wmperry:	/etc/passwd
xemacweb:	/etc/passwd

aidan.kehoe:	NOT FOUND
andy:	NOT FOUND
didier:	NOT FOUND
j_colman:	NOT FOUND
kyle:	NOT FOUND
matsl:	NOT FOUND
mike.sperber:	NOT FOUND
oscar:	NOT FOUND
ovidiu:	NOT FOUND
simon:	NOT FOUND
stephen:	NOT FOUND
steve:	NOT FOUND
tomohiko.morioka:	NOT FOUND
yoshiki:	NOT FOUND

bugs:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
cvs-manager-archive:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
majordomo-owner:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
owner-w3-announce:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
owner-w3-beta:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
owner-w3-bugs:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
owner-w3-dev:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
w3-beta:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-admin:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-beta:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-buildreports-admin:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-buildreports-request:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-buildreports:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-crashes:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-mailmaint:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-news-request:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-news:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-patches:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-users-ru-archive:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-webmaint:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-winnt-admin:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-winnt-request:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs
xemacs-winnt:	/etc/mail/aliases-xemacs

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