lurker-users — Lurker user support

Re: [Lurker-users] RSS generation

[Craig B. <cr...@sy...>]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Craig Box <cr...@sy...> wrote:

> > As it appears, Lurker can generate an archive for a Mailman list in HTML
> > format; it could also be enhanced to update an RSS/Atom format XML file
> > which can then be read by an news reader.
>
> Can you maybe explain what the purpose of this would be?
> To list new messages or what?
>

Yes, to allow following a mailing list in an news reader.  One feed per
list.

Craig

Re: [Lurker-users] RSS generation

[Wesley W. T. <we...@te...>]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Craig Box <cr...@sy...> wrote:
> As it appears, Lurker can generate an archive for a Mailman list in HTML
> format; it could also be enhanced to update an RSS/Atom format XML file
> which can then be read by an news reader.

Can you maybe explain what the purpose of this would be?
To list new messages or what?

.. and which new messages? one RSS/list?

Re: [Lurker-users] RSS generation

[Craig B. <cr...@sy...>]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Craig Box <cr...@sy...> wrote:

> > Has there been any progress on having Lurker support generating RSS feeds
> > for Mailman archives?
>
> I think this is the first I've heard about this.
>
> What would such a beast do?
>

Oh, sorry, the mailing list I saw it discussed on was not this one!
http://www.mail-archive.com/pl...@li.../msg17728.html

As it appears, Lurker can generate an archive for a Mailman list in HTML
format; it could also be enhanced to update an RSS/Atom format XML file
which can then be read by an news reader.

Craig

Re: [Lurker-users] RSS generation

[Wesley W. T. <we...@te...>]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Craig Box <cr...@sy...> wrote:
> Has there been any progress on having Lurker support generating RSS feeds
> for Mailman archives?

I think this is the first I've heard about this.

What would such a beast do?

[Lurker-users] RSS generation

[Craig B. <cr...@sy...>]

Hi,

Has there been any progress on having Lurker support generating RSS feeds
for Mailman archives?

Regards
Craig

[Lurker-users] Lurker 2.3 released

[Wesley W. T. <we...@te...>]

Now available for your upgrade pleasure, lurker 2.3:
  https://sourceforge.net/projects/lurker/files/

This is just a point release to roll up the bug fixes lurker has
accumulated over the last three (!) years. Hopefully there are not too
many new bugs added. :)

v2.3:
	Bump the version since there are various 2.2 tarballs floating
	around the web. Shame on me for not releasing sooner, I guess.

v2.2:
	Added support for specifying a umask for the database
	Removed idiotic/wrong use of 'sg' in INSTALL's import example
	Cleaned up HTML using firefox:
		Double lang in redirects removed
		<a name="..."> can't be a number
		Fixed NaN errors in bar charts
	Fixed a bug where a username with line breaks created broken XML
	Compare the list address and reply-to insensitively
	Fix foreground colour for people with reversed settings
	Allow include'ing a directory --> read all files ending with .conf
	Include filename and line number in config error messages
	Some previously global settings can now be overriden for frontends
		admin_{name,address}, archive, {hide,raw}_email, web_cache
	Added Galician language
	Updated to autoconf 2.61 and automake 1.10.1
	Made compatible to gcc-4.4
	Add missing includes for cstdlib cstring
	Rebuilt getdate.y using bison 2.3
	Switch from CVS to subversion
	Place static web content into /usr/share/lurker/www not /var/www
	Rewrote the markup regexps (linear-time and rfc-derived)
	Fix pruning for list-ids with a '.' in their name

Re: [Lurker-users] Galician (gl) translation for lurker

[Wesley W. T. <we...@te...>]

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:20 PM, José Manuel Castroagudín Silva <
cha...@gm...> wrote:

> I have just translated lurker to galician, a language spoken in
> Galicia, in the NW of Spain.
>

Very cool. I'll add it to subversion shortly.

Thank you.

[Lurker-users] Galician (gl) translation for lurker

[José M. C. S. <cha...@gm...>]

Hi everybody,

I have just translated lurker to galician, a language spoken in
Galicia, in the NW of Spain.

I don't know wether this is the right place to send this file, but it
goes attached within this mail. If i should send it to somewhere else,
please, let me know. Thanks!

Thanks to the authors for writing lurker!

btw, I saw there is a list of translators in the 'AUTHORS' file. If
you are going to put my name there, please don't forget to mention
also Jacobo Tarrío (ja...@ta...), as he reviewed it and changed
some strings too.

Regards,

-- 
Saúde,

Chaves - http://chav.es

Re: [Lurker-users] Permissions errors

[Wesley W. T. <we...@te...>]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Gerald Livingston <
ger...@sy...> wrote:

> > Interesting. Perhaps it's setuid? Or perhaps there is a setting
> > somewhere else that instructs the MDA to setuid for it.
>
> -rwsr-xr-x 1 ecartis daemon 199880 2006-04-14
> 18:36 /usr/lib/ecartis/ecartis
>
> Is there a security reason that lurker is not setuid?
>

Well, err, yes. If the program is setuid you can run it as any user to take
action on the database. If you made lurker-index setuid, it would work too,
but then any user on the system could run lurker-index to put new mail into
your archive.

IMO the ecartis "solution" is an egregious hack.

Better is to find out how to tell your MDA which user to run as. It must be
possible since your MDA is running procmail as the target user. Find out how
it invokes procmail. That's how you want to invoke lurker.

Re: [Lurker-users] Permissions errors

[Gerald L. <ger...@sy...>]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:43:05 +0200
"Wesley W. Terpstra" <we...@te...> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Gerald Livingston <
> ger...@sy...> wrote:
> 
> > > A better test would be to make your sell script:
> > > "touch /tmp/test-file". Then run it and see who
> > > created/owns /tmp/test-file.
> >
> > nobody:nogroup
> >
> 
> Well that would explain why you can't write to the lurker database.
> 
> LDA's like procmail require a local user so they can get around the
> > chroot.
> 
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean here. chroot has nothing to do with user
> accounts; it just changes the root directory.
> 
> 
> > I'm using ecartis as a mailing list manager and it "just works"
> > with nothing but aliases.
> > list1: "|/usr/lib/ecartis/ecartis -s list1"
> >
> 
> Interesting. Perhaps it's setuid? Or perhaps there is a setting
> somewhere else that instructs the MDA to setuid for it.


I'll be danged. I was so concentrated on lurker NOT working "out of the
box" that I failed to look at the things that DO work.

-rwsr-xr-x 1 ecartis daemon 199880 2006-04-14
18:36 /usr/lib/ecartis/ecartis

Is there a security reason that lurker is not setuid?

Gerald

P.S. Please reply to the list so answers are archived. No Cc: to me is
necessary. 

Re: [Lurker-users] Permissions errors

[Wesley W. T. <we...@te...>]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Gerald Livingston <
ger...@sy...> wrote:

> > A better test would be to make your sell script:
> > "touch /tmp/test-file". Then run it and see who
> > created/owns /tmp/test-file.
>
> nobody:nogroup
>

Well that would explain why you can't write to the lurker database.

LDA's like procmail require a local user so they can get around the
> chroot.


I'm not sure what you mean here. chroot has nothing to do with user
accounts; it just changes the root directory.


> I'm using ecartis as a mailing list manager and it "just works"
> with nothing but aliases.
> list1: "|/usr/lib/ecartis/ecartis -s list1"
>

Interesting. Perhaps it's setuid? Or perhaps there is a setting somewhere
else that instructs the MDA to setuid for it.

Re: [Lurker-users] Permissions errors

[Gerald L. <ger...@sy...>]

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:49:02 +0200
"Wesley W. Terpstra" <we...@te...> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Gerald Livingston
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > echo $LOGNAME >> /home/testlogname
> >
> > I made it 777
> >
> > I made /home/testlogname 666
> >
> > I changed my aliases file to
> >
> > bska-archive: "| /home/bska-archive/elogname"
> >
> > I sent a message. It caused the script to write
> >
> > bska-archive
> >
> > into the log file./home/bska-archive/elogname
> > I then created another alias
> >
> > supertest: "| /home/bska-archive/elogname"
> >
> > supertest does not exist as a real user on the system.
> >
> > It still wrote "supertest" into /home/testlogname so it is calling
> > the script as the user to whom the message is sent.
> >
> 
> If the user supertest does not exist, clearly the printing of
> supertest means something is wrong. You can't possibly have executed
> something as a non-existant user. I can only conclude that whatever
> program you're using to deliver mail is NOT changing user.
> 
> A better test would be to make your sell script:
> "touch /tmp/test-file". Then run it and see who
> created/owns /tmp/test-file.

nobody:nogroup

postfix runs chroot by default on a Debian install <sigh>. It
passes the part of the email address before the "@" as $LOGNAME to
external scripts. Making it not chroot would break a lot of other stuff.
LDA's like procmail require a local user so they can get around the
chroot. I'm using ecartis as a mailing list manager and it "just works"
with nothing but aliases.

list1: "|/usr/lib/ecartis/ecartis -s list1"

It has to be able to write things like the member database files and
temporary files for redelivering emails. I still don't quite understand
why it works but lurker does not.

I'll keep picking at it as time permits.

Gerald

Re: [Lurker-users] Fetchmail and lurker was Re: Permissions errors

[legolas558 <leg...@em...>]

Gerald Livingston ha scritto:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:15:51 +0200
> legolas558 <leg...@em...> wrote:
> 
>> Gerald Livingston ha scritto:
>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:42:03 +0200
>>> legolas558 <leg...@em...> wrote:
>> Hi Gerald,
>>
>> it has elapsed quite some time but I remember I also tried this
>> approach, then had to abandon it because it simply did not work. I am
>> no linux/mail guru but I will tell you how I got the job done (it
>> took a week to me). Forget about the standard mail program and/or the
>> mail aliases, I couldn't get it working with lurker.
>>
> 
> I went ahead and installed procmail. Delivery through procmail works
> fine with the following /home/bska-archive/.procmailrc
> 
> ---------------CUT------------------
> 
> # Please check if all the paths in PATH are reachable, remove the ones
> that # are not.
> 
> PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
> MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail      # You'd better make sure it exists
> DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
> LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/proc.log
> LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail
> SHELL=/bin/sh
> 
> :0:
> | /usr/bin/lurker-index -l buskatiers -m
> 
> ---------------CUT------------------
> 
> This is not going to work if I want to install lurker on a full virtual
> mail system (no local users) later but I'll pick at other solutions a
> bit when I have time.
> 
> I think I have it figured out (using postfix mailbox_command_maps) but
> I'll need to work out the command structure and also write a wrapper
> script to rip the listname out of the username.
> 
Glad to hear you fix it someway. I also wrote a simple MDA script which checked the listname from headers, then piped-out the message to lurker-index with the proper mailing list selection. I wrote it so that it directly parses lurker configuration to see if message was sent to an existing mailing list.

I also have no local users, so this seems a common problem. Perhaps some day FAQs will document this?

Best regards,
--
  Daniele

> Thanks,
> 
> Gerald
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Re: [Lurker-users] Fetchmail and lurker was Re: Permissions errors

[Gerald L. <ger...@sy...>]

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:15:51 +0200
legolas558 <leg...@em...> wrote:

> Gerald Livingston ha scritto:
> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:42:03 +0200
> > legolas558 <leg...@em...> wrote:
> Hi Gerald,
> 
> it has elapsed quite some time but I remember I also tried this
> approach, then had to abandon it because it simply did not work. I am
> no linux/mail guru but I will tell you how I got the job done (it
> took a week to me). Forget about the standard mail program and/or the
> mail aliases, I couldn't get it working with lurker.
> 

I went ahead and installed procmail. Delivery through procmail works
fine with the following /home/bska-archive/.procmailrc

---------------CUT------------------

# Please check if all the paths in PATH are reachable, remove the ones
that # are not.

PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail      # You'd better make sure it exists
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/proc.log
LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail
SHELL=/bin/sh

:0:
| /usr/bin/lurker-index -l buskatiers -m

---------------CUT------------------

This is not going to work if I want to install lurker on a full virtual
mail system (no local users) later but I'll pick at other solutions a
bit when I have time.

I think I have it figured out (using postfix mailbox_command_maps) but
I'll need to work out the command structure and also write a wrapper
script to rip the listname out of the username.

Thanks,

Gerald

[Lurker-users] Fetchmail and lurker was Re: Permissions errors

[legolas558 <leg...@em...>]

Gerald Livingston ha scritto:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:42:03 +0200
> legolas558 <leg...@em...> wrote:
> 
>> Gerald Livingston ha scritto:
>>> I am having GREAT difficulty getting lurker to automagically add new
>>> messages to the archive on my Debian system.
>>>
>>> Every time I send a message to the archive address I get this in my
>>> mail logs:
>>>
>>> input/output error. Command output: /var/lib/lurker/db: Permission
>>> denied
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a permission error, right? But, here are the methods I've
>>> tried to use:
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. alias bska-archive: "| /usr/bin/lurker-index -l buskatiers -m"
>>>
>>> 2. .forward with "| /usr/bin/lurker-index -l buskatiers -m"
>>>
>>> They both fail. bska-archive *IS* a real user on the system that is
>>> a member of the lurker group. If I 'su - bska-archive' then run
>>> lurker-index manually on a mbox file it imports the message just
>>> fine so bska-archive *DOES* have correct permissions.
>>>
>>> /var/lib/lurker drwxrwsr-x 2 root    lurker  4096 2009-09-18 11:18
>>>
>>> from /etc/group:
>>> lurker:x:106:mail,postfix,www-data,ecartis,bska-archive
>>>
>>> I'm not using procmail or maildrop on this system.
>>>
>> Hi Gerald,
>>
>> question here is: *WHO* is sending data through a pipe to
>> lurker-index? Can you check that?
>>
>> I remember I had many similar issues and fixed them by creating a
>> simple MDA.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> --
>>   Daniele
> 
> I created a simple pipe shell script:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> echo $LOGNAME >> /home/testlogname
> 
> I made it 777
> 
> I made /home/testlogname 666
> 
> I changed my aliases file to 
> 
> bska-archive: "| /home/bska-archive/elogname"
> 
> I sent a message. It caused the script to write 
> 
> bska-archive
> 
> into the log file./home/bska-archive/elogname
> I then created another alias
> 
> supertest: "| /home/bska-archive/elogname"
> 
> supertest does not exist as a real user on the system.
> 
> It still wrote "supertest" into /home/testlogname so it is calling the
> script as the user to whom the message is sent.
> 
> So, I chowned /home/bska-archive/elogname to root:lurker and chmod 770
> the script and 660 the file it writes to.
> 
> Now I get a permission denied message again even though the
> bska-archive user is a member of the lurker group and both files are
> 660 so they should be writable by the group members.
> 
> I made the writable file 666 again and it still fails. The script
> MUST be 777 world writable for postfix to deliver to it.
> 
> That's ugly and shouldn't be happening.
> 
> I'm going to try one or two more things then I need to wipe the lurker
> install completely and start fresh (I've hosed my database with test
> entries anyway).
> 
> I was trying hard to avoid having to use yet another delivery option
> like procmail. I wanted to be able to just add an alias and go.
> 
Hi Gerald,

it has elapsed quite some time but I remember I also tried this approach, then had to abandon it because it simply did not work. I am no linux/mail guru but I will tell you how I got the job done (it took a week to me).
Forget about the standard mail program and/or the mail aliases, I couldn't get it working with lurker.

1) install lurker, once its user/group is created also create a home directory for him, and set such home directory to owner lurker/lurker mode 0755
2) install fetchmail http://fetchmail.berlios.de/ version 6.3.8 (or the latest one you can get)
3) create /home/lurker/.fetchmailrc mode 0600 with this content:

poll mail.example.com:
    # server options
    with nodns,
    with protocol pop3,
    # user options
    user ma...@ex... there, is, lurker here,
        with nokeep,
        with mda '/usr/bin/lurker-index -l buskatiers -m',
#       with fetchall,
    with stripcr,
    with password 'yourpasswordhere';

4) now create a cron job, run every 15 minutes for example, and have it run this script (lurker-fetch.sh)

#!/bin/bash
## Update lurker mailing lists archives
## @author legolas558
##
#

## TODO: check that this script is not already running, exit if yes

LISTS_USER=lurker
APACHE_USER=www-data

LURKER_DATA=/var/lib/lurker
LURKER_WWW=/var/www/lurker

chown -R $LISTS_USER.$APACHE_USER $LURKER_DATA $LURKER_WWW && \
echo "/usr/bin/fetchmail -s | sed '/^$/d'
/usr/bin/lurker-prune
" | su - $LISTS_USER
RV=$?

chown -R $APACHE_USER.$APACHE_USER $LURKER_DATA $LURKER_WWW
exit $RV

I know that in this approach lurker-fetch.sh is run by root, but it uses 'su' to run as the proper lurker user.

Yes, all this looks like bad hackery and sorcery, but it was the only way I could get it working and I am sharing it with you hoping that it will be useful. If you think something is not clear just ask me, I made the thing some time ago but I can go check the live system for some detail.

P.S. in my experience, fetchmail *works*, the others deserve the trash can

Best reards,
--
  Daniele C. (aka legolas558)


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> 
> Gerald
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Re: [Lurker-users] Permissions errors

[Gerald L. <ger...@sy...>]

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:42:03 +0200
legolas558 <leg...@em...> wrote:

> Gerald Livingston ha scritto:
> > I am having GREAT difficulty getting lurker to automagically add new
> > messages to the archive on my Debian system.
> > 
> > Every time I send a message to the archive address I get this in my
> > mail logs:
> > 
> > input/output error. Command output: /var/lib/lurker/db: Permission
> > denied
> > 
> > 
> > Just a permission error, right? But, here are the methods I've
> > tried to use:
> > 
> > 
> > 1. alias bska-archive: "| /usr/bin/lurker-index -l buskatiers -m"
> > 
> > 2. .forward with "| /usr/bin/lurker-index -l buskatiers -m"
> > 
> > They both fail. bska-archive *IS* a real user on the system that is
> > a member of the lurker group. If I 'su - bska-archive' then run
> > lurker-index manually on a mbox file it imports the message just
> > fine so bska-archive *DOES* have correct permissions.
> > 
> > /var/lib/lurker drwxrwsr-x 2 root    lurker  4096 2009-09-18 11:18
> > 
> > from /etc/group:
> > lurker:x:106:mail,postfix,www-data,ecartis,bska-archive
> > 
> > I'm not using procmail or maildrop on this system.
> > 
> Hi Gerald,
> 
> question here is: *WHO* is sending data through a pipe to
> lurker-index? Can you check that?
> 
> I remember I had many similar issues and fixed them by creating a
> simple MDA.
> 
> Best regards,
> --
>   Daniele

I created a simple pipe shell script:

#!/bin/bash
echo $LOGNAME >> /home/testlogname

I made it 777

I made /home/testlogname 666

I changed my aliases file to 

bska-archive: "| /home/bska-archive/elogname"

I sent a message. It caused the script to write 

bska-archive

into the log file./home/bska-archive/elogname
I then created another alias

supertest: "| /home/bska-archive/elogname"

supertest does not exist as a real user on the system.

It still wrote "supertest" into /home/testlogname so it is calling the
script as the user to whom the message is sent.

So, I chowned /home/bska-archive/elogname to root:lurker and chmod 770
the script and 660 the file it writes to.

Now I get a permission denied message again even though the
bska-archive user is a member of the lurker group and both files are
660 so they should be writable by the group members.

I made the writable file 666 again and it still fails. The script
MUST be 777 world writable for postfix to deliver to it.

That's ugly and shouldn't be happening.

I'm going to try one or two more things then I need to wipe the lurker
install completely and start fresh (I've hosed my database with test
entries anyway).

I was trying hard to avoid having to use yet another delivery option
like procmail. I wanted to be able to just add an alias and go.

Thanks,

Gerald

Re: [Lurker-users] Permissions errors

[legolas558 <leg...@em...>]

Gerald Livingston ha scritto:
> I am having GREAT difficulty getting lurker to automagically add new
> messages to the archive on my Debian system.
> 
> Every time I send a message to the archive address I get this in my
> mail logs:
> 
> input/output error. Command output: /var/lib/lurker/db: Permission
> denied
> 
> 
> Just a permission error, right? But, here are the methods I've tried to
> use:
> 
> 
> 1. alias bska-archive: "| /usr/bin/lurker-index -l buskatiers -m"
> 
> 2. .forward with "| /usr/bin/lurker-index -l buskatiers -m"
> 
> They both fail. bska-archive *IS* a real user on the system that is a
> member of the lurker group. If I 'su - bska-archive' then run
> lurker-index manually on a mbox file it imports the message just fine
> so bska-archive *DOES* have correct permissions.
> 
> /var/lib/lurker drwxrwsr-x 2 root    lurker  4096 2009-09-18 11:18
> 
> from /etc/group: lurker:x:106:mail,postfix,www-data,ecartis,bska-archive
> 
> I'm not using procmail or maildrop on this system.
> 
Hi Gerald,

question here is: *WHO* is sending data through a pipe to lurker-index? Can you check that?

I remember I had many similar issues and fixed them by creating a simple MDA.

Best regards,
--
  Daniele

> 
> Ideas??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gerald
> 
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[Lurker-users] Permissions errors

[Gerald L. <ger...@sy...>]

I am having GREAT difficulty getting lurker to automagically add new
messages to the archive on my Debian system.

Every time I send a message to the archive address I get this in my
mail logs:

input/output error. Command output: /var/lib/lurker/db: Permission
denied


Just a permission error, right? But, here are the methods I've tried to
use:


1. alias bska-archive: "| /usr/bin/lurker-index -l buskatiers -m"

2. .forward with "| /usr/bin/lurker-index -l buskatiers -m"

They both fail. bska-archive *IS* a real user on the system that is a
member of the lurker group. If I 'su - bska-archive' then run
lurker-index manually on a mbox file it imports the message just fine
so bska-archive *DOES* have correct permissions.

/var/lib/lurker drwxrwsr-x 2 root    lurker  4096 2009-09-18 11:18

from /etc/group: lurker:x:106:mail,postfix,www-data,ecartis,bska-archive

I'm not using procmail or maildrop on this system.


Ideas??

Thanks,

Gerald

Re: [Lurker-users] "view newest messages" / mindex - keep the newest messages on top?

[Tomasz C. <ma...@wp...>]

Wesley W. Terpstra schrieb:
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Tomasz Chmielewski <ma...@wp...> wrote:
>> On the page where the messages are sorted by date - is it possible to
>> have the most recent message at the top, not the bottom?
> 
> You would need to modify the mindex.xsl file which determines how the
> output html will look. Unfortunately, xslt is practically a
> programming language, so requires some skill to change.


This seems to do the trick - thanks for the tip!


--- mindex.xsl.orig     2009-04-28 22:02:38.000000000 +0000
+++ mindex.xsl  2009-05-19 21:44:53.000000000 +0000
@@ -117,7 +117,10 @@
             <xsl:text>)</xsl:text>
         </th>
        </tr>
-      <xsl:apply-templates mode="message" select="row"/>
+      <xsl:apply-templates mode="message" select="row">
+       <xsl:sort order="descending" />
+      </xsl:apply-templates>
+
       </table>
      </div>
     </div>


-- 
Tomasz Chmielewski
http://wpkg.org

[Lurker-users] "view newest messages" / mindex - keep the newest messages on top?

[Tomasz C. <ma...@wp...>]

On the page where the messages are sorted by date - is it possible to 
have the most recent message at the top, not the bottom?


-- 
Tomasz Chmielewski
http://wpkg.org

Re: [Lurker-users] how is "Activity" calculated?

[Wesley W. T. <we...@te...>]

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Tomasz Chmielewski <ma...@wp...> wrote:
> Sorry, could you be more specific (probably you meant the sum, )?
>
> How is activity chart calculated? For example, we have some threads having
> one message, some 4 messages, but the activity chart is the same for them.

The bar chart shows how those 4 or 1 message a distributed through
time. The first bar corresponds to within one day. The second bar,
between 1 and 2 days. They are all scaled so the largest bar fits the
available space. Hence why the sum is also displayed as a scale
indication.

Re: [Lurker-users] how is "Activity" calculated?

[Tomasz C. <ma...@wp...>]

Wesley W. Terpstra schrieb:
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Tomasz Chmielewski <ma...@wp...> wrote:
>> How is "Activity" value calculated for threads?
> 
> It's just the number of messages that appear in the little activity chart.

Sorry, could you be more specific (probably you meant the sum, ∑)?

Supposing we look at this list (BTW; lurker archive, 
http://terpstra.ca/lurker/list/lurker-users.html, looks broken):

http://archives.free.net.ph/list/asterisk-dev.en.html

We have "activity chart", and the sum of messages next to it.

How is activity chart calculated? For example, we have some threads 
having one message, some 4 messages, but the activity chart is the same 
for them.


-- 
Tomasz Chmielewski
http://wpkg.org

Re: [Lurker-users] how is "Activity" calculated?

[Wesley W. T. <we...@te...>]

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Tomasz Chmielewski <ma...@wp...> wrote:
> How is "Activity" value calculated for threads?

It's just the number of messages that appear in the little activity chart.

[Lurker-users] how is "Activity" calculated?

[Tomasz C. <ma...@wp...>]

How is "Activity" value calculated for threads?


-- 
Tomasz Chmielewski
http://wpkg.org

[Lurker-users] longer default pages

[Jenny H. <hop...@gm...>]

Hello,

Is there a way to display more messages per page in a lurker archive?
The default seems to be 20.

Also, is there an option to provide a threaded view from the front page?


Many thanks,

Jenny