Re: [Lmuse-developer] new bug fix release coming

[Tim E. R. <ter...@ro...>]

On May 5, 2014 10:18:03 AM Robert Jonsson wrote:
> Hi Tim!
> 
> 2014-05-04 18:39 GMT+02:00 Tim E. Real <ter...@ro...>:
> > Hello Robert, and Florian, I'm still here.
> > 
> > Robert, I've spent the last several MONTHS fixing the master here.
> > The master as it stands now is just not ready for prime-time
> > 
> >  and it would NOT be good release.
> 
> Why is that, I think it works quite nicely, or are you aware of glaring
> bugs? 

Yes. Some incomplete major changes were made which left some bugs.
Current master is not the master that you knew several months ago
 before the changes. It is not functioning as it was before.

> I mean, the stuff you are building will probably add lots of neat
> enhancements but HEAD is working nicely for me, except for the two
> mentioned problems.

They are necessary to correct the bugs.
It's really only two things I'm doing: Undo and operations - no fancy
 features here, just fixes 'under the hood'.

> If you know of problems with HEAD my argument is void but otherwise I
> think we can release a maintenance release soon and then in a month or
> two we can release your stuff.
> That would be more alinged with our intentions to release more often.
> Which seldom happens ;)

That's why I've been saying it's not a good time to release until we fix 
 these problems. Releasing right now it'd be a step backwards.

Better off released with my unfinished working fixes committed NOW, 
 rather than in its current state.

Release if you want, but if you can give me a week or so, I will try my 
 darndest to have something ready beforehand.

> > But my fixes are not quite ready for commit yet.
> > There was a lot of stuff that needed (needs) fixing.
> > I estimate maybe a week before I have something, I really am working
> > 
> >  very hard to get something ready because I knew that soon others
> >  may have commits of their own, as is the case here, possibly
> >  wanting to overlap some of the fixes I am doing.
> > 
> > The first problem you mention above is likely due to these bugs
> > 
> >  and may be fixed by my fixes.
> > 
> > The second problem you mention, well, I guess that's up for debate.
> > I'd prefer to keep the Jack midi thing...
> 
> I have no problems with having jack-midi as default if they were
> functionaly equal but I have had quite a few problems with the
> jack-midi solution lately. Best would be to fix it but until that can
> be done I think we should fall back on a working solution.
> I'll try to elaborate on the problems I have had in a bug soon.

OK, tell me. That's my department so maybe I can help.
I've no trouble with the jack-midi here.
I think jack has had some changes lately, possibly regarding device naming?

> > I hate to discuss what I'm doing for fear of jinxing my work, it has
> > 
> >  a habit of doing that, sometimes I discover a stumbling block that
> >  shoots down everything I have tried and it's back to the drawing board.
> > 
> > So briefly, I have fixed things that Flo and I discussed (every event gets
> > 
> >  a unique ID, problems with selections etc), and I have implemented what
> >  we discussed about operations: Operations are now 'collected' beforehand
> >  in the non-realtime  stage and executed VERY FAST in the realtime stage
> >  with very simple instructions. It doesn't get much faster than that.
> > 
> > Previously the realtime stage was doing all the 'collecting' and wasting
> > 
> >  a lot of time, doing a lot of searching and even mem allocation - a
> >  no-no.
> > 
> > There are, and have been, a lot of challenges and snags along the way.
> > For example I've found the tempo, signature, and key lists have a design
> > flaw> 
> >  that prevents them from working with undo, at tick = 0.
> > 
> > So I'm fixing that right now.
> > 
> > It's been very intense and complex fixing these bugs.
> > Yes, it has taken THIS long, but I hope to have something soon, because it
> > 
> >  is finally coming together and showing signs that it WILL work.
> 
> Sounds cool! Does this have any impact on the song file format?

None so far.

Winter just won't go quietly. Spring has been very slow to arrive here.
Finally getting better but still cold, rainy, windy... Come on Sun!
This week looks a bit better.

Thanks.
Tim.

> 
> Regards,
> Robert
>