Re: [Lmuse-developer] Fwd: [ lmuse-Bugs-3482422 ] Muse2 is unusable in the latest Ubuntu 12.04alpha

[Florian J. <flo...@we...>]

Am 16.02.2012 23:25, schrieb Tim E. Real:
> On February 16, 2012 3:28:58 PM Robert Jonsson wrote:
>    
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2012/2/16 Florian Jung<flo...@we...>
>>
>>      
>>> Am 16.02.2012 01:16, schrieb Tim E. Real:
>>>        
>>>> On February 15, 2012 10:16:15 PM Robert Jonsson wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> i think i know the problem: my hackish menubar stuff
>>>>>> as a workaround i could probably add a config option (or command
>>>>>> line
>>>>>> switch) which disables all my fancy changes. all i did is to
>>>>>> override
>>>>>> certain functions of QMainWindow, and added extra slots to the
>>>>>> main
>>>>>> program. simply calling the original routines and not connecting
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> slots could solve the issue (of course, it would remove the
>>>>>> functionality for MDI/SDI etc on such systems. but better than
>>>>>> nothing, and if you want to _use_ muse, you should get a proper
>>>>>> WM)
>>>>>>              
>>>>> It's tough arguing that users should conform in that way. Though
>>>>> Ubuntu is really messing things up here....
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried it now running MusE in a virtualbox session (I was able to
>>>>> enable the PAE setting in the virtualbox configuration), the rc2
>>>>> release was available prepackaged, yay! Though it really is quite
>>>>> unusable... sadly :(
>>>>> I think we should try the workaround with making it possible to
>>>>> disable your changes until we can figure out how to play nicely
>>>>> with
>>>>> Unity.
>>>>> With unity the menu is supposed to appear at the top, the muse
>>>>> menues
>>>>> do however not appear there, they appear below it, sometimes they
>>>>> also
>>>>> appear in the mdi window... and everytime I click a menu the
>>>>> dropdown
>>>>> appears but the menubar vanishes!?
>>>>> ...
>>>>> I think I need to install this on something faster than a virtual
>>>>> machine to get a better feel for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>            
>>>> As you may remember I switched to Ubuntu a few months back.
>>>> So I may be bitten by this problem upon next upgrade.
>>>> Or not - it's KUbuntu - I probably won't see it at all !
>>>>
>>>> Seems like Unity is trying to be a sort of Mac Dock bar?
>>>>
>>>> Which raises a question I was wondering:
>>>> If we have sort of, kind of, emulated that Mac bar here in MusE,
>>>>
>>>>    what happens if and when we actually run it on a Mac (or Unity)?
>>>>
>>>> Much competition between the two?
>>>>
>>>> Do you think the problem is with MusE or Unity?
>>>>          
>>> both.
>>> muse does hackish things, and unity does hackish things. and if TWO
>>> programs want to do that, they'll probably collide.
>>>
>>>
>>> hrm. unfortunately, i cannot run ubuntu in a vm, i cannot turn that PAE
>>> setting on. the box is greyed out. robert, is there any trick? or
>>> alternative kernel option or anything? (not that i would expect the
>>> ubuntu folks do anything useful which might confuse idiots -_-)
>>>
>>> compiling unity on debian seems to be not an option either as looks
>>> pretty time consuming. installing ubuntu on another partition seems
>>> easier...
>>>
>>> if i have time, i could try to simply turn off a) the menu-bar sharing,
>>> b) the MDI-windows or c) both.
>>> then unity users only lose that feature, but still can use muse in "the
>>> old way".
>>>
>>> robert, if i find the time, can i send you a patch and ask you to try it
>>> out :)?
>>>        
>> If you can do that it would be perfect.
>> Will try to install ubuntu on hardware tonight and it would be nice to try
>> a fix :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Robert
>>
>>      
>>> greetings
>>> flo
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>
> Ah, hold on... Unity is available already here in my package manager.
> So I don't have to wait for the next upgrade.
>
> The question is... do I really want to install it and upset KUbuntu?
> Hmm... I wonder if I can uninstall it without consequences...
>
>    
i think you can, it's "only" a window manager. aptitude purge (not 
remove), and rm -rf -ing the appropriate config dir in /home/ should 
completely wipe it from your harddisk again.
but better ask someone who knows ;)

flo
> Tim.
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