Re: [Lmuse-developer] removing that "range: 1. selection 2. all 3. loop markers 4. selection in loop"

[Florian J. <flo...@we...>]

Am 08.05.2011 22:43, schrieb Tim E. Real:
> On May 8, 2011 04:39:18 pm Robert Jonsson wrote:
>    
>> 2011/5/6 Florian Jung<flo...@we...>:
>>      
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> i'd like to remove the velocity- and gate-time-dialog's range-selection;
>>> i'd like it to always operate on the current selection.
>>>        
>> How about going halfway and preselecting "Selected events" if there
>> are events selected?
>>      
actually this looks like a good idea to me
however, i can't stand dialogs which don't remember my settings... when 
i now click on "loop markers", i want the option to stay there over 
several dialog calls.
has anyone any solution for this?


>>> "all" is done by ctrl+a, then open that dialog
>>> "loop markers" is done by<short cut must still be added>, then open it
>>>
>>> (pianoroll's "select" submenu has an action which selects everything in
>>> the loop; adding a shortcut for it would rock ;) )
>>>        
>> I like shortcuts :) I'll take a look.
>>
>>      
thanks ;)

>>> and "selection in loop"... who needs this xD?
>>>        
> These are for manipulating stuff between the left and right blue marker lines.
> Don't remove this stuff. It is useful, as there is no other way to specify a
>   'range' of events. The combination of options provides the greatest
>   flexibility. One can have a whole whackload of events selected, yet simply by
>   manipulating the left/right markers, can narrow the effect of the operations.
>    
i thought this could be solved by the above short cut selecting 
everything in the loop markers.
and that flexibility... well, i don't think that it's needed. but 
anyway, we can simply let it in muse, a user who doesn't want to use it 
can simply ignore it ;)

>>> this would greatly simplify things for me as developer, and i'd also
>>> feel more familiar with "my" concept as user (you know, the cakewalk-guy
>>> ;) )
>>>
>>> what do you think about this?
>>>        
>> Shortcuts are really the best for a power-user but I wonder if these
>> dialogs would be harder to understand for beginners if the selection
>> was not evident in the dialog?
>>      
true :)

>> How do you mean that it would simplify for you as a developer? You
>> mean to implement this function in the score editor?
>>      
i thought that i'll redo the selection system by really only allowing 
selections. no "notes in loop", "selection in loop" stuff etc, because i 
thought it is easier to implement. however, now, i have written 
functions which respect that "stuff", and it wasn't a big deal.

i'd vote for:

    * add these short cuts
    * let that range-selection stuff. maybe make it collapsable in the
      dialogs for those who don't like it

consider that topic as closed, as my main reason is away ;)



flo