Re: [Lmms-users] [LMMS-devel] Fwd: LMMS customization project

[A. T. F. <tre...@gm...>]

Paul,

That's an interesting proposal.

Aaron is creating a product and -- out of courtesy -- FYI-ing the author.
The author FYI'd us out of courtesy as well so that it won't come as a
surprise if we see LMMS "out there" rebranded.

If Aaron's fork looks promising enough to merge back in (including theme
support) we can visit that road when we get there.  Many projects such as
Aaron's fall short in the end, so lets focus on the excitement and set
initiatives asside.  Lets hope Aaron's project pays off, and we can be
pretty sure the LMMS project will eventually benefit in the end.

-Tres


On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Paul Giblock <dr...@gm...> wrote:

> Yes. But Having a seperate brand will cause LMMS's userbase to split
> between "LMMS Users" and "BMP Users" or whatever..  My big fear is
> that users who start with BeatMachinePro or whatever will never learn
> about LSP. Even worse, if Aaron doesn't merge in all of our changes in
> future versions, then these users will never experience our cool new
> features.
>
> I am still sticking to my proposition: instead of forking LMMS, why
> don't we just make it easier for themes to override some of the text?
> This way the users WILL be using LMMS, instead, there will just be a
> beatmachinepro theme which is defaulted to.  This way the user  can
> upgrade to a newer LMMS, the beatmachinepro theme will remain in tact
> etc..  Hell, we ship the additional theme with our official build.
> Aaron will just modify the installer to default to the
> "beatmachinepro" theme.
>
> Again, I know that copyright is interesting. However, I thought that a
> copyright can still exist on the Brand.  Look at firefox for example.
>
> -Paul
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:18 PM, A. Tres Finocchiaro
> <tre...@gm...> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Paul Giblock <dr...@gm...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Toby -
> >>
> >> Do you have a Copyright on LMMS?   Everyone who is wanting to make
> >> simple cosmetic changes an claim a new product are committing
> >> copyright infringement I believe.
> >
> > Paul, if you read the General Public License, it makes a point to mention
> > the legalities of selling the software.  Companies like Novell and RedHat
> > currently use this to sell a GPL product by charging for their versions
> of
> > Linux.
> >
> > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.txt
> >
> > It is perfectly legal for Aaron to repackage and sell LMMS so as long as
> > code changes are republished (which would be in his best interest
> anyways).
> > His artwork can be separately licensed under what he chooses (unless he
> > borrows that too, then he'll be responsible for abiding to that license
> > too).
> >
> > What is more viral to a community is a license that does not have strict
> > requirements of code "kick-backs" (Like BSD, MIT, Apache).
> >
> > Apple chose FreeBSD for they're OS X operating system.  The BSD license
> > allows them to close the source and contribute what they want to the
> FreeBSD
> > project.  The GPL license does not allow this.
> >
> > -Tres
> >
> >
> >
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