Is Jamulus 3.5.8 compatible with El Captain (OSX 10.11)?
Also … how do I find out which versions of Jamulus are compatible with which versions of the Mac OSX?
Normally when I download an update for an app. there is a text file explaining what exactly has changed, system requirements etc…
On the 3.5.8 update I see no info. Is this usually the case? Maybe I’m not finding the correct place on the sourceforge.net website?
I was trying to use jamulus with a friend today. We played a couple of days earlier without a problem (he was then on Catalina) but today on an older mac with 10.11 - he downloaded 3.5.8 and we could not connect at all.
Any clues?
Thanks!
Dennis
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A PC with either Windows 10, MacBook/iMac OS X El Capitan (v10.11) or higher, or Linux.
So it seems 3.5.8 should run with El Capitain ... correct?
I'm just trying to trouble shoot for a friend who cannot seem to connect to my server when using El Cap - but he can when using another machine with catalina. Also - I'm a guitar teacher trying use Jamulus - and different students have different OS's that they are using. I REALLY need to know if certain versions of Jamulus are restricted to certain versions of OSX. Then if i know that, I can trouble shoot more methodically.
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The "El Capitan (v10.11) or higher" guidence hasn't been properly tested, but comes from user reports on the forums of not being able to run it on versions lower. It's possible that some or higher OSX version has an incompatability, but without a suite of versions to run each Jamulus release against, I'm afraid we simply rely (as most small open source projects do) on user reports.
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A PC with either Windows 10, MacBook/iMac OS X El Capitan (v10.11) or
higher, or Linux.
So it seems 3.5.8 should run with El Capitain ... correct?
I'm just trying to trouble shoot for a friend who cannot seem to connect
to my server when using El Cap - but he can when using another machine with
catalina. Also - I'm a guitar teacher trying use Jamulus - and different
students have different OS's that they are using. I REALLY need to know if
certain versions of Jamulus are restricted to certain versions of OSX. Then
if i know that, I can trouble shoot more methodically.
Thank you for the education ... I have not used much in the way of open-source projects and was not sure what level of documentation is typical or not.
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Each project is different, and in Jamulus's case it's been around for about 15 years mostly unknown and largely relying on users to document it in various ways and places. When covid and lockdowns came along interest in it exploded, exposing the need to have a proper documentation set (which we created here although we have aspirations for better, particualry regarding translation). But the content is mostly only about three months old and is evolving quite quickly as we get feeback on it, as are feature updates to the software itself. Regression testing for the sort of thing you are talking about is quite hard and would need resources we don't have I'm afraid.
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Each project is different, and in Jamulus's case it's been around for
about 15 years mostly unknown and largely relying on users to document it
in various ways and places. When covid and lockdowns came along interest in
it exploded, exposing the need to have a proper documentation set (which we
created here https://github.com/corrados/jamulus/wiki although we have
aspirations for better, particualry regarding translation). But the content
is mostly only about three months old and is evolving quite quickly as we
get feeback on it, as are feature updates to the software itself.
Regression testing for the sort of thing you are talking about is quite
hard and would need resources we don't have I'm afraid.
Scott, there may be many reasons why the ping time is 20 ms at your school and 10ms at the other. If you have cloud-hosted Jamulus server, you should make sure that the VPS you get is located in your geographical region, as close as possible. If needed try a local VPS hoster with a high-bandwidth low latency network. If your school set a server up on their own LAN which is accessible to the outside, it could be that bandwidth becomes a bottleneck. If 10s of students start using it at the same time both upstream and downstream of your school's internet connection may not be sufficient. Make sure to test with sufficient bandwidth. Ping time to a geographically close server typically range between 7-14ms. My AWS hosted server in my geographical region gives me ~8ms. With proper setup for each client (no wifi but cables, stable and fast home internet, etc.) I get between 25-30ms total latency which works well.
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Is Jamulus 3.5.8 compatible with El Captain (OSX 10.11)?
Also … how do I find out which versions of Jamulus are compatible with which versions of the Mac OSX?
Normally when I download an update for an app. there is a text file explaining what exactly has changed, system requirements etc…
On the 3.5.8 update I see no info. Is this usually the case? Maybe I’m not finding the correct place on the sourceforge.net website?
I was trying to use jamulus with a friend today. We played a couple of days earlier without a problem (he was then on Catalina) but today on an older mac with 10.11 - he downloaded 3.5.8 and we could not connect at all.
Any clues?
Thanks!
Dennis
Will Jamulus run on Mac Os 10.9
Update info:
https://sourceforge.net/p/llcon/discussion/software/thread/33c12ddc11/
Compatibility info:
https://github.com/corrados/jamulus/wiki/Getting-Started
The compatibility info says -
So it seems 3.5.8 should run with El Capitain ... correct?
I'm just trying to trouble shoot for a friend who cannot seem to connect to my server when using El Cap - but he can when using another machine with catalina. Also - I'm a guitar teacher trying use Jamulus - and different students have different OS's that they are using. I REALLY need to know if certain versions of Jamulus are restricted to certain versions of OSX. Then if i know that, I can trouble shoot more methodically.
The "El Capitan (v10.11) or higher" guidence hasn't been properly tested, but comes from user reports on the forums of not being able to run it on versions lower. It's possible that some or higher OSX version has an incompatability, but without a suite of versions to run each Jamulus release against, I'm afraid we simply rely (as most small open source projects do) on user reports.
In my experience it won't run on 10.9 at all
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 10:12 AM Dennis Burns bolder01@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
Thank you for the education ... I have not used much in the way of open-source projects and was not sure what level of documentation is typical or not.
Each project is different, and in Jamulus's case it's been around for about 15 years mostly unknown and largely relying on users to document it in various ways and places. When covid and lockdowns came along interest in it exploded, exposing the need to have a proper documentation set (which we created here although we have aspirations for better, particualry regarding translation). But the content is mostly only about three months old and is evolving quite quickly as we get feeback on it, as are feature updates to the software itself. Regression testing for the sort of thing you are talking about is quite hard and would need resources we don't have I'm afraid.
Fair enough
I am willing to help in any way I can.
Where I need help is setting up a server.
My school set up a server and the ping time is 20 ms which is too slow, the
connection is not good
Another school down the street set up a server with a ping time of 10ms
which works well
I am trying to figure out what the difference is in how they set up the
server, why one has a ping time of 10 and the other 20ms
Thank you,
Scott
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:49 AM Gilgongo gilgongojones@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
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New Roads High School
Music Director
Unitarian Universalist Church of Santa Clarita
Scott, there may be many reasons why the ping time is 20 ms at your school and 10ms at the other. If you have cloud-hosted Jamulus server, you should make sure that the VPS you get is located in your geographical region, as close as possible. If needed try a local VPS hoster with a high-bandwidth low latency network. If your school set a server up on their own LAN which is accessible to the outside, it could be that bandwidth becomes a bottleneck. If 10s of students start using it at the same time both upstream and downstream of your school's internet connection may not be sufficient. Make sure to test with sufficient bandwidth. Ping time to a geographically close server typically range between 7-14ms. My AWS hosted server in my geographical region gives me ~8ms. With proper setup for each client (no wifi but cables, stable and fast home internet, etc.) I get between 25-30ms total latency which works well.