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New user - feedback on a laptop

2020-03-26
2020-04-25
  • Steve Jensen

    Steve Jensen - 2020-03-26

    Hi Volker,

    Thanks for producing this software. With a little luck, I will be up and running soon!

    I am a novice computer user - learned to program with punch cards, and haven't programmed since! (yes, that was 1975...) We have been pushed indoors with the Covid -19, and working to get jaming with our acoustic friends soon.

    I am not able to get the laptop to fully cooperate with the software. It is a Toshiba Satellite L875, 4 GB ram, Intel Core i3-3120, Windows 10, on board speakers and microphone, both using the Realtek drivers. connected to the router with a wire, not WiFi.

    I intsalled the Jamulus software, and the ASIO4all v2 software.

    When I connect to any of the servers that are available, immediately, what sounds like a feedback loop has me scrambling to pull the Jamulus fader or the computer volume down to "0", and disconnect from the server.

    Can you advise me on what I might have set incorrectly to get this result?

    Any suggestions you might have to help me get past this problem will be well appreciated!

    Thank you,

    Steve J

     
  • Gronaz

    Gronaz - 2020-03-26

    Please Mute your microphone

     
  • Volker Fischer

    Volker Fischer - 2020-03-26

    You should use headphones to avoid feedback.
    Please do not expect a good latency with the laptop sound card and ASIO4All. You would need a dedicated USB sound card with a proper ASIO driver to get a decent performance.

     
  • Gilgongo

    Gilgongo - 2020-03-26

    Hi Steve - something like this is a good bet for a sound card.

     
  • Gronaz

    Gronaz - 2020-03-26

    I'd rather like it grey UCA202 because it is the very same (red is only remarketed with additionnal unusefull/useless sharewares packaging)

     

    Last edit: Gronaz 2020-03-26
    • Gilgongo

      Gilgongo - 2020-03-26

      Yes - good point! :-)

       
  • Steve Jensen

    Steve Jensen - 2020-03-26

    Thank you all!

    Yes, using the headphones cut the feedback, and make the software useable on the laptop, and I apprectiate the heads up on performance with the on-board sound card. We will work to get that Behernger in the loop to get the latency to an aceptable level.

    SJ

     
  • Leigh Williams

    Leigh Williams - 2020-04-24

    Does it matter whether the headphones are wired or wireless?

     
    • Gilgongo

      Gilgongo - 2020-04-25

      I think wireless headphones would introduce more latency. Best to use
      wired. You need to shave off as much lag from your system as possible,
      basically.

       
    • Harro Heilmann

      Harro Heilmann - 2020-04-25

      One of my band's sax players tried wireless/bluetooth and for him that was a 100% showstopper, actually nothing worked ... I think a general recommendation is to stay away from any wireless devices when online jamming. Any millimeter of distance and an ms of technical latency is to be avoided almost at any price ... many musicians seem to have started with Laptop, onboard sound and mic equipment and it never seems to work - for some probably so frustrating that they give up. I now recommend to my band and wider musician friend circles to have as minimum:

      • Audio Interface (2-channel or more)
      • Ethernet Internet connection - must have/super essential
      • Chat Mic (2nd channel on audio interface)
      • "Real" Headset (particularly important for accoustic instrument players)
      • in case of accoustic instruments: clip mic or other high quality mic solution
      • ... and familiarity with the limited tweaking you can do software and setting wise

      But virtually everybody I know got things going at good sound quality and good to very good latency when having spent an hour or so understanding and optimizing their basic setup ... and the jams get bigger, better and more frequently every night - Yeaah, Go Jamulus!!