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From: Michael M. <mi...@ma...> - 2018-12-28 21:47:36
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Am 28.12.18 um 22:08 schrieb Alec Leamas: > On 28/12/18 21:31, Michael Markstaller via LIRC-list wrote: >> Am 28.12.18 um 20:49 schrieb Alec Leamas: >> >>> lirc being broken was finally raised as a bug in [1]. As evident from >>> the bug the statement "lirc is broken" is plain wrong. >> Well this is how you translate "broken". >> >> Broken is, if an update doesn't "just work" without manual intervention >> - at least in my world. > > > When you are using Ubuntu ýoy are not in your own world. Instead you are > in the Debian/Ubuntu world. This world, formed by volunteers, is > governed by a set of rules. Yes, I know. this should not be offending to you personally. I've said the same many times for such GREAT F* inventions like systemd/Network-Manager (it's case-sensitive, sick!) > While all of us working with packages tries to make smooth upgrades > there is occasionally situations where a breaking update like this is > required. This is according to the Debian/Ubuntu rules, and nothing > strange. No, it's just annoying for any user. > Bottom line: lirc as of 18.04 is not "broken" because it was a breaking > update (except perhaps in your own world). > > That is not to say that there is no bugs in it. Some of those could have > been fixed much sooner if users could have filed bugs. The embarrassing > fact that lirc-config crashes on start in Debian could for example have > been fixed long time ago with a simple bug filed. > > Cheers! > --alec > Bottom line: lirc_atiusb was never updated or fixed (and I really tried..) So everything after lirc 0.8.5 / kernel 2.6.32 is broken in "my world", as thats what I'm using lirc for (with 12 remotes - BTW: perfectly working for more than 10 years!) So any update/upgrade is just no option.. best regards, Michael |