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Re: [Xorg] Local Multi Users

[Svetoslav S. <sv...@gm...>]

> Svetoslav:
> 
> Thank you for your response. But I'm not sure I expressed myself
> clearly. My problem is quite strange and understanding it well is
> necessary for anyone to help us.
> 
> The problem is that we need to make four monitors work with one desktop.
> Okay, but we only achieved this using three. Using four is hard.
> 
> First let me comment a little bit on the past emails:
> 
> On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 06:13, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> 
> > > Having to use an "order" is no good.  People on a multi-user
> > > machine logs in and out on the different consoles all the time, and X
> > > obviously restarts everytime. 
> > 
> > does X restarts really ? :-)
> > <snip from my gdm conf>
> > # If you are having trouble with using a single server for a long time
> and
> > # want gdm to kill/restart the server, turn this on
> > #AlwaysRestartServer=false
> > </snip>
> > 
> 
> Well, we already did that a few days ago and that's what made our three
> monitor configuration work 101% perfectly :)
> 
> 
> > > Gdm might be capable of starting the initial
> > > login sessions in the "right" order, but then two users logs in, the
> one
> > > with the card that must be loaded "first" then logs out and someone
> else
> > > logs in - restarting X on that card "last".
> > 
> > IIRC gdm follows the order in which the servers are specified 
> > in it's config file
> > on start : 1,2,3,.....
> > on shutdown : ...,3,2,1
> > 
> > IMO user logins/logouts doesn't metter 
> > 
> 
> As a matter of fact the logins/logouts do *NOT* matter. Once loaded they
> will reamin loaded untill the next reboot.
> 
> There is something really interesting here. When we log on with three
> monitors any user can logout and X won't shutdown (as we intended). 
> 
> However, with four monitors the order in gdm's session list is getting
> strange... 
> 
> Since this is not a simple problem I will try to simulate a little of
> what's going on here. Please try to understand this simulation:
> 
> => I try load gdm in an given order wich I configure in gdm.conf
>    (for example, let's imagine X0, X1, X2, X3 for our example).
> 
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X0 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X1 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X2 up.... FAILED.
>    But magically the X0 monitor _and_ X2 are frozen-up!!
>    Also X3 is not loaded, since we didn't get there.
> 
>    Now I do a "kill <gdm and his childs AND the X server>".
>    Now X0, X1, X2, X3 and the X server are dead.

what is the reason for the failers ?
for a year(maybe year and a half) i got only 1 time
problem to boot the bios of the card

if you have the same problem, i'd suggest to configure 
Xinerama as  James van Zeeland sugested, and run X -probeonly
with the Xinerama layout before starting gdm
Aivils the main developer of bruby and ruby,
is using such a setup with 3 Nvidia cards
 
one other thing, 
i don't really understand why should a failer in one server
block all previous ones
IMO on ruby if the system is running (i.e. not tottaly locked),
the other X server should still function properly

> => Now I edit my gdm.conf and try (X2, X0, X1, X3). Let's try it...
> 
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X2 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X0 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X1 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X3 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Everything works now!! I am lucky!
>    Users may login and logout and everything works alright!!
> 
> => Now, I'm in heaven. I am kind of the hill... so now I am going to
> reboot and load everything again.
>
>
> => So now I edit gdm.conf and I left the default order of initialization
> to (X2, X0, X1, X3). Since it worked once it should work again, right??
> 
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X2 up.... FAILED.
>    And the machine is _completely_ halted... even my keyboard leds.

have you changed the primary card(the one initialized by BIOS)
to the one used by X2, IIRC with Miguels Solution
there is a big fat warning that a dumb(no VT/console) 
X server can not be the primary one 

> 
> I hope I illustrated my problem better. Please help if you know any kind
> of aid for this problem.

well, i'm afraid that i have no other ideas then 
initializing the cards via X -probeonly before starting gdm

maybe some more info on the X errors, X configs and the hardware used could
help us track it down 

> Just remembering, we have tried lots of different video cards and
> motherboards along with memories and processor... that's the definition
> of desperate!

i really doubt that hardware (except Graphic cards)
matters, so far it runs stable with a lot of PCI cards

what graphic cards are you using ?
have you checked the compatibility list ?

best,

svetljo

PS.
Aivils site seems to be down right now,
but there are some mirrors
US:
http://people.debian.org/~andreas/aivils/
Germany:
http://www.schuldei.org/aivils/
http://rfhs8012.fh-regensburg.de/~sls35340/aivils/
UK:
http://karlovo.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/aivils/

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Re: [Xorg] Local Multi Users

[Alexandre <ate...@in...>]

Svetoslav:

Thank you for your response. But I'm not sure I expressed myself
clearly. My problem is quite strange and understanding it well is
necessary for anyone to help us.

The problem is that we need to make four monitors work with one desktop.
Okay, but we only achieved this using three. Using four is hard.

First let me comment a little bit on the past emails:

On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 06:13, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:

> > Having to use an "order" is no good.  People on a multi-user
> > machine logs in and out on the different consoles all the time, and X
> > obviously restarts everytime. 
> 
> does X restarts really ? :-)
> <snip from my gdm conf>
> # If you are having trouble with using a single server for a long time and
> # want gdm to kill/restart the server, turn this on
> #AlwaysRestartServer=false
> </snip>
> 

Well, we already did that a few days ago and that's what made our three
monitor configuration work 101% perfectly :)


> > Gdm might be capable of starting the initial
> > login sessions in the "right" order, but then two users logs in, the one
> > with the card that must be loaded "first" then logs out and someone else
> > logs in - restarting X on that card "last".
> 
> IIRC gdm follows the order in which the servers are specified 
> in it's config file
> on start : 1,2,3,.....
> on shutdown : ...,3,2,1
> 
> IMO user logins/logouts doesn't metter 
> 

As a matter of fact the logins/logouts do *NOT* matter. Once loaded they
will reamin loaded untill the next reboot.

There is something really interesting here. When we log on with three
monitors any user can logout and X won't shutdown (as we intended). 

However, with four monitors the order in gdm's session list is getting
strange... 

Since this is not a simple problem I will try to simulate a little of
what's going on here. Please try to understand this simulation:

=> I try load gdm in an given order wich I configure in gdm.conf
   (for example, let's imagine X0, X1, X2, X3 for our example).

   Now gdm is trying to bring X0 up.... SUCCESS!!
   Now gdm is trying to bring X1 up.... SUCCESS!!
   Now gdm is trying to bring X2 up.... FAILED.
   But magically the X0 monitor _and_ X2 are frozen-up!!
   Also X3 is not loaded, since we didn't get there.

   Now I do a "kill <gdm and his childs AND the X server>".
   Now X0, X1, X2, X3 and the X server are dead.

=> Now I edit my gdm.conf and try (X2, X0, X1, X3). Let's try it...

   Now gdm is trying to bring X2 up.... SUCCESS!!
   Now gdm is trying to bring X0 up.... SUCCESS!!
   Now gdm is trying to bring X1 up.... SUCCESS!!
   Now gdm is trying to bring X3 up.... SUCCESS!!
   Everything works now!! I am lucky!
   Users may login and logout and everything works alright!!

=> Now, I'm in heaven. I am kind of the hill... so now I am going to
reboot and load everything again.

=> So now I edit gdm.conf and I left the default order of initialization
to (X2, X0, X1, X3). Since it worked once it should work again, right??

   Now gdm is trying to bring X2 up.... FAILED.
   And the machine is _completely_ halted... even my keyboard leds.


I hope I illustrated my problem better. Please help if you know any kind
of aid for this problem.

Just remembering, we have tried lots of different video cards and
motherboards along with memories and processor... that's the definition
of desperate!

Thank you very very much,
Alexandre Penasso Teixeira

Re: [Xorg] Local Multi Users

[James v. Z. <ja...@dv...>]

Works perfectly for me, once it's configured. uptime 7 days or so on
this workstation, no X crashes. Sure getting 4 seperate video cards up
might be tricky, but I've found your mainboard might have something to
do with it, as I found an Intel P4 Desktop board almost totally
incompatible.

MSI + Gigabyte, thumbs up so far, Intel Workstation and Server class
hardware might be another matter, but I don't trust the Intel Desktop
boards to be fully compatible outside of fairly generic configurations.

Trying out some things like starting 2003 server under VMware and
dedicating a console to it on  my Linux server. ( It's work ) 

Most of the problems I've had were basically the same as multi-head X.

The apparent initialisation inconsistency is solved for me by having an
Xinemera config that is probed before the X server. In short, if it
works for Xinimera, I'm expecting it to work with multi-console ruby,
because although at first I found the initialisation a speedbump ( I
only did a quick skim of docs), that's basically where it's at for me. I
haven't tried using bunches of different cards, but I found that when
using different cards, I had the same problems as I did with Xinimera.


J


On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 06:17, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > Thanks for your reply.
> > 
> > My problem isn't with the keyboard division nor with the keyboards' leds
> > nor with anything else.
> > 
> > Everything works almost perfectly **EXCEPT** that it's soooooo unstable.
> > 
> > I observed that there is a correct order to load the video cards and
> > when that order is found, it all works okay until I turn off the
> > computer. 
> > 
> > This looks like a videogame problem... each time I turn my computer on I
> > need to guess the correct order for the video cards to load... this is
> > insane.
> 
> hm,
> gdm uses the predefined order(kdm/xdm do not)
> once you find the proper order of cards
> and configure gdm, everything should be fine
> i & at least 20-30 persons i helped, never had
> stability issues(after everything was configured)
> 
> best,
> 
> svetljo
> 
> PS. i left the older PS. for a reason :-)
> > > PS.
> > > please CC me (and the linuxconsole ml)
> > > as me(we) are not subscribed to the list
> > > 
> 

Re: [Xorg] Local Multi Users

[Svetoslav S. <sv...@gm...>]

> Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> 
> >>Thanks for your reply.
> >>
> >>My problem isn't with the keyboard division nor with the keyboards' leds
> >>nor with anything else.
> >>
> >>Everything works almost perfectly **EXCEPT** that it's soooooo unstable.
> >>
> >>I observed that there is a correct order to load the video cards and
> >>when that order is found, it all works okay until I turn off the
> >>computer. 
> >>
> >>This looks like a videogame problem... each time I turn my computer on I
> >>need to guess the correct order for the video cards to load... this is
> >>insane.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >hm,
> >gdm uses the predefined order(kdm/xdm do not)
> >once you find the proper order of cards
> >and configure gdm, everything should be fine
> >i & at least 20-30 persons i helped, never had
> >stability issues(after everything was configured)
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> Having to use an "order" is no good.  People on a multi-user
> machine logs in and out on the different consoles all the time, and X
> obviously restarts everytime. 

does X restarts really ? :-)
<snip from my gdm conf>
# If you are having trouble with using a single server for a long time and
# want gdm to kill/restart the server, turn this on
#AlwaysRestartServer=false
</snip>

> Gdm might be capable of starting the initial
> login sessions in the "right" order, but then two users logs in, the one
> with the card that must be loaded "first" then logs out and someone else
> logs in - restarting X on that card "last".

IIRC gdm follows the order in which the servers are specified 
in it's config file
on start : 1,2,3,.....
on shutdown : ...,3,2,1

IMO user logins/logouts doesn't metter 

> Am I misunderstanding something, or do people really log in once
> and keep that card forever until reboot? 
> That does not work well with
> children who want to have their own user .  . .

well i simulated the "children" problem a while ago
(i think when i was writing the howto)without any issues
patched XFree/Xorg + gdm shouldn't exhibit problems
but "videohack" and/or xdm/kdm might have the problem

> I have avoided this problem so far, by using a single card with
> two framebuffers.  That will change as I try to get DRI on two
> cards :-/

as said , i've no problems with DRI + Nvidia on
two PC's 
radeon7500 + geforce4 
matrox g550 + TNT2 M64

best,

svetljo

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Re: [Xorg] Local Multi Users

[Helge H. <hel...@hi...>]

Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:

>>Thanks for your reply.
>>
>>My problem isn't with the keyboard division nor with the keyboards' leds
>>nor with anything else.
>>
>>Everything works almost perfectly **EXCEPT** that it's soooooo unstable.
>>
>>I observed that there is a correct order to load the video cards and
>>when that order is found, it all works okay until I turn off the
>>computer. 
>>
>>This looks like a videogame problem... each time I turn my computer on I
>>need to guess the correct order for the video cards to load... this is
>>insane.
>>    
>>
>
>hm,
>gdm uses the predefined order(kdm/xdm do not)
>once you find the proper order of cards
>and configure gdm, everything should be fine
>i & at least 20-30 persons i helped, never had
>stability issues(after everything was configured)
>
>  
>

Having to use an "order" is no good.  People on a multi-user
machine logs in and out on the different consoles all the time, and X
obviously restarts everytime.  Gdm might be capable of starting the initial
login sessions in the "right" order, but then two users logs in, the one
with the card that must be loaded "first" then logs out and someone else
logs in - restarting X on that card "last".

Am I misunderstanding something, or do people really log in once
and keep that card forever until reboot?  That does not work well with
children who want to have their own user .  . .

I have avoided this problem so far, by using a single card with
two framebuffers.  That will change as I try to get DRI on two
cards :-/

Helge Hafting

Re: [Xorg] Local Multi Users

[Svetoslav S. <sv...@gm...>]

> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> My problem isn't with the keyboard division nor with the keyboards' leds
> nor with anything else.
> 
> Everything works almost perfectly **EXCEPT** that it's soooooo unstable.
> 
> I observed that there is a correct order to load the video cards and
> when that order is found, it all works okay until I turn off the
> computer. 
> 
> This looks like a videogame problem... each time I turn my computer on I
> need to guess the correct order for the video cards to load... this is
> insane.

hm,
gdm uses the predefined order(kdm/xdm do not)
once you find the proper order of cards
and configure gdm, everything should be fine
i & at least 20-30 persons i helped, never had
stability issues(after everything was configured)

best,

svetljo

PS. i left the older PS. for a reason :-)
> > PS.
> > please CC me (and the linuxconsole ml)
> > as me(we) are not subscribed to the list
> > 


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[Xorg] Local Multi Users

[Svetoslav S. <sv...@gm...>]

Hi all

Dear Alexandre, 

i'm not a X guy, but IMHO there is no such big
difference between X.org and XFree86 in this matter
so if it works with XFree86 it will work with Xorg too

you may want to try the implementation by the linuxconsole project
http://linuxconsole.sourceforge.net

some more pointers & documentation

* initial working implementation based on backport 
  to linux-2.4 and a lot of documentation
  The Backstreet Ruby home page http://startx.times.lv/

* my howto XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO
  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO/index.html

* shorter step by step guide by Jean-Daniel Pauget  
  http://disjunkt.com/dualhead/

this setup is working for a lot of people
with upto 4 users sofar

if you decide to try it, please keep the 
linuxconsole ml posted

and :D

dear Xorg developers,
would it be possible for you to
include the attached patch in Xorg,
so users that want to try multiuser setups
don't need to patch it themselfs
this patch doesn't change X's behaviour when
the new options are not specified
and is currently included in
Debian's XFree86 & Mandrake's Xorg packages
and there are no (related) bug reports

best,

svetljo

PS.
please CC me (and the linuxconsole ml)
as me(we) are not subscribed to the list

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Re: Starting point for ruby-2.6.7

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Aivils =EDrta:
> ruby-2.6.7 on CVS! On public CVS after N hours.
> VGA - fixed
> fb cursor now blink on each fb console.
>=20
> On Wednesday 16 June 2004 23:03, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
>=20
>>if you revert the patches found in the attached tarball
>>in alphabetical order in Linux-2.6.7 and apply the ruby-2.6.6
>=20
>=20
> Seems You use another tree of kernel.
> Your pathes is not against CVS

You meant the ruby CVS? Of course "my patches" weren't against it.
They were downloaded from linus.bkbits.net, they went into mainline
after linux-2.6.6, and I used them with "patch -p1 -R" against vanilla
linux-2.6.7 downloaded from
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.7.tar.bz2.
So what I produced was an almost linux-2.6.7, console behaviour
setting back to 2.6.6 and patched with ruby-2.6.6. Is it clear now?

>>patch then only fs/compat_ioctl.c gives three trivial rejects.
>>The attached compat_ioctl.c is the fixed version.
>=20
> i just use James' s  initial version.

The difference against yours and mine is attached.
What does the removed lines do?

> Your semiautomatic updates breaks fbcon functionality.
>=20
> You can grab ruby from CVS and check out radeonfb.
> dual login via text mode console on radeonfb.
> You can do it under 64bit arch :)

I will try it. :-)

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

Re: Starting point for ruby-2.6.7

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

ruby-2.6.7 on CVS! On public CVS after N hours.
VGA - fixed
fb cursor now blink on each fb console.

On Wednesday 16 June 2004 23:03, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
> if you revert the patches found in the attached tarball
> in alphabetical order in Linux-2.6.7 and apply the ruby-2.6.6

Seems You use another tree of kernel.
Your pathes is not against CVS

> patch then only fs/compat_ioctl.c gives three trivial rejects.
> The attached compat_ioctl.c is the fixed version.

i just use James' s  initial version.

Your semiautomatic updates breaks fbcon functionality.

You can grab ruby from CVS and check out radeonfb.
dual login via text mode console on radeonfb.
You can do it under 64bit arch :)

Aivils

Re: Starting point for ruby-2.6.7

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Zoltan Boszormenyi =EDrta:
> Zoltan Boszormenyi =EDrta:
>=20
>> ... compile
>> without warnings on i686 system.
>=20
>=20
> And works, too. :-) Now compiling it on x86-64...

And works, compiled both with gcc-3.3.3 and gcc-3.4.0.
Your dumdum module wasn't needed, something was fixed
in the x86-64 port of linux-2.6.7.

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

Re: Starting point for ruby-2.6.7

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Zoltan Boszormenyi =EDrta:
> ... compile
> without warnings on i686 system.

And works, too. :-) Now compiling it on x86-64...

Starting point for ruby-2.6.7

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Hi Aivil,

if you revert the patches found in the attached tarball
in alphabetical order in Linux-2.6.7 and apply the ruby-2.6.6
patch then only fs/compat_ioctl.c gives three trivial rejects.
The attached compat_ioctl.c is the fixed version.

compat_ioctl.c is not needed on x86, the others compile
without warnings on i686 system.

For others: you can get create the ruby-2.6.6 patch by

diff -ur --unidirectional-new-file /path/to/linux-2.6.6=20
/path/to/linuxconsole/cvs/tree/ruby/ruby-2.6 >ruby-2.6.6.patch

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

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Re: Multihead officially dead?!

[<jsi...@pe...>]

> On Thursday 27 May 2004 19:24, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
> > >In practice.
> > >	I think James does not have PC in his held.
> > 
> > Aivils:
> > What do you mean by "held"?
> 
> property

Sorry about the delay. Multihead will come back to the fbcon layer. 
What I like to do is have a mapping field in fbcon. Currently we have 
map: and vc: option to fbcon. I like to use the con2fb_map to take all the
devices we have a map the proper vc's to the fbdev device. Its not so easy 
from the VT layer has it only has the global fg_console :-(
 
> > Hugo.
> 
> I try to tease James. Looks like he works from mainframe in the
> nuklear bunker floor -15, where sloopy pentagon sysop forgot
> close outgoing ssh port.
> I think so, because James do updates only after bug report,
> but never of itself - so have not a PC :)

Most of work is done on a laptop at work :-(

Re: Successful ruby setup and a problem

[lumarga <lu...@it...>]

C=E9dric,
  I will change the card and do other tests.

Thank's.
Celso.Silva


Assunto: Re: Successful ruby setup and a problem

> lumarga wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >    Excuse-me, I don't know where ask this, then I'm asking here.
> >    The problem: 'Successful ruby setup and a problem -- localhost:1.0=

> > is destroyed by logging out on localhost:0.0 ' posted by  Boszormenyi=

> > Zoltan and Wayne Whitney on March was solved in newer patch's?
> 
> No, there is no patch for this issue which was discussed
specifically to 
> ATI radeon cards. Maybe, Wayne could post his Xfree hack used to
restore 
> the display but this should not be relevant to you since you have 
> different hardware.
> Would you suggest that you experience the same behavior because you
have 
> also cards based on an identical graphic chipset ?
> 
> > My video cards are: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (onboard 1:0:0=
)
> > and Trident Microsystems TGUI 9440 (rev e3) (0:8:0).
> > My kernel: Linux slac90 2.4.25-backstreet-ruby
> > My XFree86:  Version 4.3.0 - X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0,
> > Release 6.6 - patch xf86-430-prefbusid3.diff (from
> > http://disjunkt.com/dualhead/)
> > My Display Manager: gdm.
> 
> Don't know anything particular about Trident cards. You should post 
> configuration and log files to give a good understanding of your setup.=

> 
> > 
> > I'm a bad English writer.
> 
> You can write me privately in portuguese if it can help.
> 
> Cheers,
> C=E9dric
> 
> 
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Re: Where is dumbcon_init() called?

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Zoltan Boszormenyi =EDrta:
>=20
> --- dummycon.c.old	2004-05-31 11:48:34.137610128 +0200
> +++ dummycon.c	2004-05-31 11:51:39.421442704 +0200
> @@ -103,16 +103,21 @@
>          const char *display_desc =3D NULL;
>          struct vt_struct *vt;
> =20
> +printk("%s() called\n", __FUNCTION__);
> +
>          vt =3D (struct vt_struct *) kmalloc(sizeof(struct vt_struct),G=
FP_KERNEL);
> =20
>          if (!vt) return -ENOMEM;
> =20
> +printk("%s() kmalloc successful\n", __FUNCTION__);
> +
>          memset(vt, 0, sizeof(struct vt_struct));
>          vt->vt_kmalloced =3D 1;
>          vt->vt_sw =3D &dummy_con;
>          display_desc =3D vt_map_display(vt, 1, MIN_NR_CONSOLES);
>          if (!display_desc) {
>  		kfree(vt);
> +printk("%s() vt_map_display() failed\n", __FUNCTION__);
>  	        return -ENODEV;
>  	}
>  	printk("Console: mono %s %dx%d vc:%d-%d\n", display_desc,
>=20

OK, running

make clean
make
make install
modprobe dumdum

after putting these into the tree's drivers/video/console/dummycon.c,
I got this:

dumdum: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel.
dumbcon_add() called
dumbcon_add() kmalloc successful
invalid operand: 0000 [1]
CPU 0
Modules linked in: dumdum snd_emu10k1 snd_util_mem snd_hwdep
...

I don't quote it entirely again, seems like a NULL pointer deref.
Next round of changes attached.

# modprobe dumdum
# dmesg
...
dumdum: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel.
dumbcon_add() called
dumbcon_add() kmalloc successful
vt_map_display() called
vt_map_display() before ->con_startup()
vt_map_display() after  ->con_startup()
vt_map_display() con_startup() was successful()
Console: mono dummy device 80x25 vc:17-17

Now what? Miscompilation? Mis-linkage?

# rpm -q gcc binutils
gcc-3.3.3-7
binutils-2.15.90.0.3-5

Anyway, after
# echo "isa0060/serio0/input0" >/proc/bus/console/01/keyboard
# dmesg
...
keyboard: [AT Translated Set 2 keyboard] bound to [dummy device] vc:17-17

Putting these into /etc/rc.d/rc.local now
I have a dual-head 64-bit Linux machine! :-D

Thanks, Aivil, for the starting point. Next time I will
try to compile this with gcc-3.4.0, that may give some
difference.

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

Re: Patches to revert in 2.6.7-rc1 or -rc2

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Aivils =EDrta:
> i have limted coding power, but RC* and PRE* changes
> any hour. current linuxconsole.sf.net stay sticky with releases

Tell me I am not useful to you finding the changesets
that cause rejects when patching with ruby... ;-)
I know the bkbits.net tree is changing, that's why I do it.
There are fixes in -rc and -mm patchsets for bugs that may bite.

>>Aivil, there is a missing semicolon and a new line
>>there, look into line 1722 in your CVS!
>=20
> applied.

Thanks, I saw it.

>>The other patch is against arch/x86_64/kernel/setup.c ,
>>it's basically the same seven lines deleted as in
>>arch/i386/kernel/setup.c. No testing were done on x86_64
>>besides compilation.
>=20
> we with for results.
>=20
> Aivils

I keep you posted. :-)

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

Re: Where is dumbcon_init() called?

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Aivils =EDrta:
>=20
> vt_console_init() is very early function and must start only
> single bootmem_alloc console. Later kernel call vty_init()
> and add additional consoles, when kmalloc()
> is ready. dummycon.c uses dumbcon_add() for this case.
>=20
> Special for You dumdum module was created. Please
> boot in to Your target kernel and try load dumdum module :)
> cd dumdum
> make
> make install
> modprobe dumdum
> I You doubt please add some printk.
>=20
> I am so sorry , but dumdum is untested.
>=20
> Aivils Stoss

# modprobe dumdum
# dmesg
...
dumdum: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel.
Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000073 RIP:
<ffffffff80466365>{vt_create_sysfs_dev_files+53}PML4 1afa5067 PGD
19d2d067 PMD 0
Oops: 0000 [1]
CPU 0
Modules linked in: dumdum snd_emu10k1 snd_util_mem snd_hwdep
snd_mixer_oss snd_via82xx snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm snd_timer
snd_page_alloc gameport snd_mpu401_uart snd_rawmidi snd_seq_device snd
soundcore radeon ipv6 parport_pc lp parport autofs4 rfcomm l2cap
bluetooth pcmcia_core sunrpc r8169 orinoco_pci orinoco hermes ipt_REJECT
ipt_state ip_conntrack iptable_filter ip_tables ide_cd cdrom floppy sg
scsi_mod tsdev evdev usbhid dm_mod uhci_hcd ehci_hcd usbcore thermal
processor fan button battery asus_acpi ac
Pid: 4463, comm: modprobe Tainted: P   2.6.7-rc1-mm1-ruby
RIP: 0010:[<ffffffff80466365>]
<ffffffff80466365>{vt_create_sysfs_dev_files+53}
RSP: 0018:000001001c2fdef0  EFLAGS: 00010282
RAX: ffffffff8031c8ef RBX: 000001001e5ee000 RCX: 0000000000000000
RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: 0000000000000000 RDI: 000001001e5ee000
RBP: 0000000000000001 R08: 0000000000000000 R09: 0000000000000001
R10: 0000000000000001 R11: 0000000000000000 R12: ffffffffa02631e8
R13: 0000000000539020 R14: 0000000000538100 R15: 0000000000000000
FS:  0000002a9557b4c0(0000) GS:ffffffff80449a40(0000) knlGS:0000000000000=
000
CS:  0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 000000008005003b
CR2: 0000000000000073 CR3: 0000000000101000 CR4: 00000000000006e0
Process modprobe (pid: 4463, threadinfo 000001001c2fc000, task
000001000261e2b0)
Stack: ffffffff8020bdd9 ffffff0000a6a670 ffffff0000a69826 000001001e5ee00=
0
         0000000000000000 ffffffff8031f360 ffffffffa02630c6 0000000000001=
7d5
         ffffffff8031f390 ffffffffa0263ac0
Call Trace:<ffffffff8020bdd9>{vt_map_display+489}
<ffffffffa02630c6>{:dumdum:dumbcon_add+86}
         <ffffffffa0267099>{:dumdum:init_module+9}
<ffffffff80148ff5>{sys_init_module+245}
         <ffffffff801115ea>{system_call+126}

Code: 69 6e 73 74 61 6c 6c 2f 64 65 76 2f 74 74 79 56 31 33 27 20
RIP <ffffffff80466365>{vt_create_sysfs_dev_files+53} RSP <000001001c2fdef=
0>
CR2: 0000000000000073

There is still only /proc/bus/console/00.

Find attached my printk changes in dumbcon_add(),
with it I got these messages, there may be problems
with the linker itself:

$ make
make[1]: `arch/x86_64/kernel/asm-offsets.s' is up to date.
    CHK     include/asm-x86_64/offset.h
    CHK     include/linux/compile.h
    CC      drivers/video/console/dummycon.o
    LD      drivers/video/console/built-in.o
    LD      drivers/video/built-in.o
    LD      drivers/built-in.o
    GEN     .version
    CHK     include/linux/compile.h
    UPD     include/linux/compile.h
    CC      init/version.o
    LD      init/built-in.o
    LD      .tmp_vmlinux1
ld: BFD 2.15.90.0.3 20040415 assertion fail ../../bfd/linker.c:619
    KSYM    .tmp_kallsyms1.S
    AS      .tmp_kallsyms1.o
    LD      .tmp_vmlinux2
ld: BFD 2.15.90.0.3 20040415 assertion fail ../../bfd/linker.c:619
    KSYM    .tmp_kallsyms2.S
    AS      .tmp_kallsyms2.o
    LD      vmlinux
ld: BFD 2.15.90.0.3 20040415 assertion fail ../../bfd/linker.c:619
    AS      arch/x86_64/boot/setup.o
    LD      arch/x86_64/boot/setup
    OBJCOPY arch/x86_64/boot/compressed/vmlinux.bin
    GZIP    arch/x86_64/boot/compressed/vmlinux.bin.gz
    LD      arch/x86_64/boot/compressed/piggy.o
    LD      arch/x86_64/boot/compressed/vmlinux
    OBJCOPY arch/x86_64/boot/vmlinux.bin
    BUILD   arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage
Root device is (3, 6)
Boot sector 512 bytes.
Setup is 4773 bytes.
System is 1338 kB
Kernel: arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage is ready
    Building modules, stage 2.
    MODPOST
*** Warning: "acpi_register_gsi" [drivers/serial/8250_acpi.ko] undefined!

Anyway, booting the new kernel I didn't get any messages
telling me that dumbcon_add() was at least called (and failed)...

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

Re: Patches to revert in 2.6.7-rc1 or -rc2

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Sunday 30 May 2004 23:01, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I searched through http://linus.bkbits.net:8080/linux-2.5
> for the patches that are needed to be reverted so ruby-2.6.6
> patch apply cleanly. These patches should be applied with
> "patch -R -p1" in alphabetical order.

i have limted coding power, but RC* and PRE* changes
any hour. current linuxconsole.sf.net stay sticky with releases

> I want to try newer kernels/fixes but I also need
> the multihead capability.
> 
> I also needed two additional patches to compile
> this beast on x86_64, one for fs/compat_ioctl.c.
> Aivil, there is a missing semicolon and a new line
> there, look into line 1722 in your CVS!

applied.

> The other patch is against arch/x86_64/kernel/setup.c ,
> it's basically the same seven lines deleted as in
> arch/i386/kernel/setup.c. No testing were done on x86_64
> besides compilation.

we with for results.

Aivils

Re: Where is dumbcon_init() called?

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Monday 31 May 2004 10:46, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> this is in vt.c:
> 
> static int __init vt_console_init(void)
> {
>          int err = 0;
>  
> 
> #if defined (CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE)
>          err = vga_console_init();
> #elif defined (CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE)
>          err = dumbcon_init();
> #endif
>          return err;
> }
>  
> 
> This should call dumbcon_init() only if CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE
> is not defined and CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE is. I have both,
> so dumbcon_init() isn't called. Now what activates it on i386
> so I can fix it on x86_64? It's not a console_initcall()
> so the

vt_console_init() is very early function and must start only
single bootmem_alloc console. Later kernel call vty_init()
and add additional consoles, when kmalloc()
is ready. dummycon.c uses dumbcon_add() for this case.

Special for You dumdum module was created. Please
boot in to Your target kernel and try load dumdum module :)
cd dumdum
make
make install
modprobe dumdum
I You doubt please add some printk.

I am so sorry , but dumdum is untested.

Aivils Stoss

Re: Where is dumbcon_init() called?

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Zoltan Boszormenyi =EDrta:
> ... It's not a console_initcall()
> so the

drivers/char/tty_io.c:console_init() does not call it either.

I pressed the Send button accidentally.

>=20
> Best regards,
> Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi
>=20

Where is dumbcon_init() called?

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Hi,

this is in vt.c:

static int __init vt_console_init(void)
{
         int err =3D 0;
=20

#if defined (CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE)
         err =3D vga_console_init();
#elif defined (CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE)
         err =3D dumbcon_init();
#endif
         return err;
}
=20

This should call dumbcon_init() only if CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE
is not defined and CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE is. I have both,
so dumbcon_init() isn't called. Now what activates it on i386
so I can fix it on x86_64? It's not a console_initcall()
so the

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

Re: 1 success, 1 failure, was: Re: Patches to revert in 2.6.7-rc1 or -rc2

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Hi,

I forgot to tell that the x86_64 system is Fedora Core 2
and I recompiled its xorg-x11-6.7.0-2.src.rpm with your
080_pci_isolate_device_feature.diff patch added.
The man page parts did not apply since the manpage file
is not XF86Config.man anymore. Cutting that out the real
code applied cleanly and works.
The system works nicely otherwise but I still miss vc17. :-)

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

Zoltan Boszormenyi =EDrta:
> Hi,
>=20
> finally I was able to test 2.6.7-rc1-mm1-ruby on my machine
> with both i386 and x86_64 systems. The i386 version works
> as expected but the x86_64 does not: the machine does not
> set up vc17 although I appended a "dumbcon=3D1" parameter to
> the boot prompt.

1 success, 1 failure, was: Re: Patches to revert in 2.6.7-rc1 or -rc2

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Hi,

finally I was able to test 2.6.7-rc1-mm1-ruby on my machine
with both i386 and x86_64 systems. The i386 version works
as expected but the x86_64 does not: the machine does not
set up vc17 although I appended a "dumbcon=3D1" parameter to
the boot prompt.

# uname -a
Linux wl-193.226.227-37-szolnok.dunaweb.hu 2.6.7-rc1-mm1-ruby #1 Sun May=20
30 23:09:52 CEST 2004 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
# cat /proc/cmdline
ro root=3D/dev/hda6 dumbcon=3D1 console=3Dtty0

The config is otherwise the same: :0 would be the PCI Radeon 7000,
:1 would be (it does not start - no vc17) the AGP Radeon 9200/SE.

I appended the dmesg and the .configs for both the i386 and the
x86_64 kernels, in case you can find something.

I will try again with 2.6.7-rc1-ruby (without the -mm1) soon
but the same kernel works on i386... Somehow the dummycon
driver seems to not initialize.

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

Patches to revert in 2.6.7-rc1 or -rc2

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Hi,

I searched through http://linus.bkbits.net:8080/linux-2.5
for the patches that are needed to be reverted so ruby-2.6.6
patch apply cleanly. These patches should be applied with
"patch -R -p1" in alphabetical order.

I want to try newer kernels/fixes but I also need
the multihead capability.

I also needed two additional patches to compile
this beast on x86_64, one for fs/compat_ioctl.c.
Aivil, there is a missing semicolon and a new line
there, look into line 1722 in your CVS!
The other patch is against arch/x86_64/kernel/setup.c ,
it's basically the same seven lines deleted as in
arch/i386/kernel/setup.c. No testing were done on x86_64
besides compilation.

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi