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Re: Problem with keyboard generating events persists in 2.6.7

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Monday 05 July 2004 20:42, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> On mandag 5. juli 2004, 19:27, Helge Hafting wrote:
> > How do you get ruby out of cvs these days?
>=20
> Hm, it worked fine for me just a few days ago... No idea.
>=20
> > Perhaps a USB driver p=EF=BF=BDroblem?
>=20
> It could be. I contacted Greg Kroah-Hartmann like Zoltan suggested, no=20
> response yet.
>=20
> > What's inferior about using keyboards on ps/2? That's what I use,
> > and serial mice.  That way I didn't have to buy any new keyboard.
>=20
> Oh, it is just the availability of suitable extension cables... Now the=20
> place is a mess with cables all over, some of them is a bit short, but=20
> I have this very nice 5m cable with VGA+2xPS/2-in-one, and I'd like to=20
> use that. It would be so much more maintainable. Especially when you=20
> want to clean out the corners. I did that the other day. Whoah! :-)=20

IMHO You should do gross hack by yourself

=2D-- hid-core.c  2004-06-17 10:37:47.000000000 +0300
+++ hid-core_.c 2004-07-09 11:12:43.045096352 +0300
@@ -1491,7 +1491,7 @@ static struct hid_blacklist {
        { USB_VENDOR_ID_ATEN, USB_DEVICE_ID_ATEN_2PORTKVM, HID_QUIRK_NOGET =
},
        { USB_VENDOR_ID_ATEN, USB_DEVICE_ID_ATEN_4PORTKVM, HID_QUIRK_NOGET =
},
        { USB_VENDOR_ID_ATEN, USB_DEVICE_ID_ATEN_4PORTKVMC, HID_QUIRK_NOGET=
 },
=2D       { USB_VENDOR_ID_TANGTOP, USB_DEVICE_ID_TANGTOP_USBPS2, HID_QUIRK_=
NOGET },
+       { USB_VENDOR_ID_TANGTOP, USB_DEVICE_ID_TANGTOP_USBPS2, HID_QUIRK_NO=
GET | HID_QUIRK_STOP_TANGTOP},

        { USB_VENDOR_ID_A4TECH, USB_DEVICE_ID_A4TECH_WCP32PU, HID_QUIRK_2WH=
EEL_MOUSE_HACK_BACK },
        { USB_VENDOR_ID_CYPRESS, USB_DEVICE_ID_CYPRESS_MOUSE, HID_QUIRK_2WH=
EEL_MOUSE_HACK_EXTRA },






=2D-- hid-input.c 2004-05-10 05:32:28.000000000 +0300
+++ hid-input_.c        2004-07-09 11:23:21.278070192 +0300
@@ -432,6 +432,13 @@ void hidinput_hid_event(struct hid_devic

        input_regs(input, regs);

+       /* debug wrong TANGTOP event */
+       printk("HID_EVENT: type %d code %d \n", usage->type, usage->code);
+       /* stop wrong event */
+       if ((hid->quirks & HID_QUIRK_STOP_TANGTOP) &&
+            usage->type =3D=3D UNDESIRED_TYPE && usage->code =3D=3D UNDESI=
RED_CODE)
+               return;
+
        if (((hid->quirks & HID_QUIRK_2WHEEL_MOUSE_HACK_EXTRA) && (usage->c=
ode =3D=3D BTN_EXTRA))
                || ((hid->quirks & HID_QUIRK_2WHEEL_MOUSE_HACK_BACK) && (us=
age->code =3D=3D BTN_BACK))) {
                if (value)



=2D-- hid.h       2004-05-10 05:31:57.000000000 +0300
+++ hid_.h      2004-07-09 11:11:41.563442984 +0300
@@ -211,6 +211,7 @@ struct hid_item {
 #define HID_QUIRK_2WHEEL_MOUSE_HACK_BACK       0x080
 #define HID_QUIRK_2WHEEL_MOUSE_HACK_EXTRA      0x100
 #define HID_QUIRK_2WHEEL_MOUSE_HACK_ON         0x200
+#define HID_QUIRK_STOP_TANGTOP                 0x400

 /*
  * This is the global environment of the parser. This information is




This set of paches means You locate wrong event and leater stop it with
# define UNDESIRED_TYPE=20
# define UNDESIRED_CODE


Aivils

Re: [Fwd: Re: Fedora Core 3]

[Svetoslav S. <sv...@gm...>]

> On Wednesday 07 July 2004 12:26, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > > Hi All!
> > > 
> > > 	Seems Mandrake give the go-by Fedora.
> > 
> > not really :(
> > 
> > but it does include my xorg packages patched with the isolate_device :-)
> > (LOL IMHO they didn't pay attention to all the included patches LOL)
> > 
> > > http://slashdot.org/articles/04/07/07/0217255.shtml?tid=147&tid=187
> > > http://h40058.www4.hp.com/products/desktops/441/techspec.html
> > > 
> > > What is 9.1.3 MandrakeSoft HP PC installation ?
> > 
> > sorry to say, but it's a special(party closed source) MDK-9.1 edition
> > for HP, i don't know much too, but from what i managed to get
> > from one of the people that worked on it
> > the development started 2years ago,
> > and there are some closed source tools developed for HP
> > to manage permissions and configuring the system
> > other then that it's a standard MDk-9.1 with all the updates
> > it's running a 2.4 kernel, and you can not use multiple consoles
> 
> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=113673&cid=9629679
> 
> That is backstreet-ruby. musicator write about non-disclosure,
> so party closed source, even nothing to hide :)
> 
> Aivils

i know, i know :-)

just wanted a firm answer,
he didn't said "it's bruby"
he said smth like 
"it's pretty much the same, 
 as the one implemented in the brasilian school"

best,

svetljo

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Fedora Core 3]

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Wednesday 07 July 2004 12:26, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > Hi All!
> > 
> > 	Seems Mandrake give the go-by Fedora.
> 
> not really :(
> 
> but it does include my xorg packages patched with the isolate_device :-)
> (LOL IMHO they didn't pay attention to all the included patches LOL)
> 
> > http://slashdot.org/articles/04/07/07/0217255.shtml?tid=147&tid=187
> > http://h40058.www4.hp.com/products/desktops/441/techspec.html
> > 
> > What is 9.1.3 MandrakeSoft HP PC installation ?
> 
> sorry to say, but it's a special(party closed source) MDK-9.1 edition
> for HP, i don't know much too, but from what i managed to get
> from one of the people that worked on it
> the development started 2years ago,
> and there are some closed source tools developed for HP
> to manage permissions and configuring the system
> other then that it's a standard MDk-9.1 with all the updates
> it's running a 2.4 kernel, and you can not use multiple consoles

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=113673&cid=9629679

That is backstreet-ruby. musicator write about non-disclosure,
so party closed source, even nothing to hide :)

Aivils

Re: [ck] CPU load balance or one task domination under linux-2.6.7-ruby-s77

[Con K. <ke...@ko...>]

Aivils wrote:
> On Monday 05 July 2004 21:19, Con Kolivas wrote:
> 
>>Aivils wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All!
>>>
>>>	I try multiple local user linux box.
>>>All 2.6.XX kernel versions from 2.6.0 up to 2.6.7 do one task domination.
>>>I applay before staircase 7 and now staircase 7.7
>>>
>>>Anyway if two users run games simultaneous, then one game allways
>>>dominate.
>>>If i set "nice -n +1 game-bin"  for each user , then both games
>>>became choppy, because lost priority against system tasks.
>>>
>>>Second phenomen - tuxracer under 2.4.26 take 1%-3% CPU time,
>>>but under 2.6.7-s77 it eat 80%. As result i cannot test thiny games
>>>simultaneous, because thiny goes fat and choppy.
>>>
>>>Does know anybody is this phenomen realy depended from task
>>>scheduler alghoritm?
>>>
>>>May be that is system call queue?
>>
>>Hi
>>
>>Please try staircase7.8 and use
>>echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/interactive
> 
> 
> Ok. I was try two kernels 2.6.7,
> 1) with vanilla scheduler non-preemptive,
> 2) staircase 7.8 w/ echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/interactive
> both have 100Hz kernel timer
> Two users start game
> otto> nice -n +10 game-bin
> fritz> nice -n +10 game-bin
> 
> Gamers feeling under both kernels are identical.

That's a good start.

> Kernel normal split resources almost righteous for each game.
> BUT THIS IS NOT 2.4.XX FEELING!

Well 2.4 was not an O(1) kernel so with the good comes the bad in 2.6

> 
> Seems  2.6.XX rescheduling time is larger than magic 10-30m sec
> which gamer cannot feel visual.

Actually rescheduling on staircase is in the order of 10ms.

> Under 2.4.XX on second game start fisrt gamer feel on frames per
> second (fps) decrease, but game still smooth.
> Under 2.6.XX on second game start fisrt gamer feel horrible
> delays. Almost game become unplayable.
> 
> Under 2.6.XX is impossible start two simultaneous games without
> nice +

Try both at nice +19.

>>cpu time accounting can be out by a great margin changing Hz (as happens 
>>between 2.4 and 2.6). Higher Hz will always show higher cpu usage even 
>>if the usage is the same. If a task waes up at just the right time 
>>frequently enough it can appear to use 10 times as much cpu.
> 
> 100 Hz does the work :)
> tuxracer is back and take 1% CPU as under 2.4.XX

This doesn't mean it's using less cpu; it means it's reporting less cpu.

> 
> Me never  trust lest usage is the same as under 2.4.XX, because two
> tuxracers under 2.6.7 distrub each other!
> 
> Aivils

Thanks for feedback.

Cheers,
Con

Re: [ck] CPU load balance or one task domination =?iso-8859-13?q?under=09linux-2=2E6=2E7-ruby-s77?=

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Monday 05 July 2004 21:19, Con Kolivas wrote:
> Aivils wrote:
> > Hi All!
> > 
> > 	I try multiple local user linux box.
> > All 2.6.XX kernel versions from 2.6.0 up to 2.6.7 do one task domination.
> > I applay before staircase 7 and now staircase 7.7
> > 
> > Anyway if two users run games simultaneous, then one game allways
> > dominate.
> > If i set "nice -n +1 game-bin"  for each user , then both games
> > became choppy, because lost priority against system tasks.
> > 
> > Second phenomen - tuxracer under 2.4.26 take 1%-3% CPU time,
> > but under 2.6.7-s77 it eat 80%. As result i cannot test thiny games
> > simultaneous, because thiny goes fat and choppy.
> > 
> > Does know anybody is this phenomen realy depended from task
> > scheduler alghoritm?
> > 
> > May be that is system call queue?
> 
> Hi
> 
> Please try staircase7.8 and use
> echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/interactive

Ok. I was try two kernels 2.6.7,
1) with vanilla scheduler non-preemptive,
2) staircase 7.8 w/ echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/interactive
both have 100Hz kernel timer
Two users start game
otto> nice -n +10 game-bin
fritz> nice -n +10 game-bin

Gamers feeling under both kernels are identical.
Kernel normal split resources almost righteous for each game.
BUT THIS IS NOT 2.4.XX FEELING!

Seems  2.6.XX rescheduling time is larger than magic 10-30m sec
which gamer cannot feel visual.
Under 2.4.XX on second game start fisrt gamer feel on frames per
second (fps) decrease, but game still smooth.
Under 2.6.XX on second game start fisrt gamer feel horrible
delays. Almost game become unplayable.

Under 2.6.XX is impossible start two simultaneous games without
nice +

> cpu time accounting can be out by a great margin changing Hz (as happens 
> between 2.4 and 2.6). Higher Hz will always show higher cpu usage even 
> if the usage is the same. If a task waes up at just the right time 
> frequently enough it can appear to use 10 times as much cpu.
100 Hz does the work :)
tuxracer is back and take 1% CPU as under 2.4.XX

Me never  trust lest usage is the same as under 2.4.XX, because two
tuxracers under 2.6.7 distrub each other!

Aivils

Re: Radeon 7000/VE Dual-head

[Svetoslav S. <sv...@gm...>]

> On Wednesday 07 July 2004 01:04, Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> > Hello everyone. I come here again to ask for help once more and to get
> > some help from you guys again.
> > 
> > Right now I am very satisfied with the presented solution and with the
> > support from all of you for my multi head question done before.
> > 
> > Now I am using a Radeon 7000/VE Dual-head (two connectors on one card)
> > board. XFree detected it normally. When do a startx the monitors are
> > identical. So I created Screen0 + Screen1 and divided them using a
> > layout. Example:
> > I want some help as how to activate the monitors independently like a 'X
> > --some-nice-options-here Screen0' and so on.
> 
> some-nice-options-here does not exists. Configuration desrcibed by You
> works only on matrox, because matrox drivers is very tuned under linux.

and IMO, even on matrox, there is no clean way to do it
in case you don't use the X fbdev driver :(

(well, i keep saying it, but anyway matrox's MMS series
 should teorethically work OK with X mga driver and acceleration,
 as every other (if any) card with multiple graphic chips on it )

i guess you need a second card

 
> In theory , may be Radeon 7000/VE Dual-head can handle two
> separate framebuffers. Then user can start two separate X on framebuffers.
> 
> Runs radeonfb on each head separately?
> 

IIRC radeonfb doesn't support multihead, and supporting multihead
is not very high in the todo list of BenH :(

best,

svetljo

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Fedora Core 3]

[Svetoslav S. <sv...@gm...>]

> Hi All!
> 
> 	Seems Mandrake give the go-by Fedora.

not really :(

but it does include my xorg packages patched with the isolate_device :-)
(LOL IMHO they didn't pay attention to all the included patches LOL)

> http://slashdot.org/articles/04/07/07/0217255.shtml?tid=147&tid=187
> http://h40058.www4.hp.com/products/desktops/441/techspec.html
> 
> What is 9.1.3 MandrakeSoft HP PC installation ?

sorry to say, but it's a special(party closed source) MDK-9.1 edition
for HP, i don't know much too, but from what i managed to get
from one of the people that worked on it
the development started 2years ago,
and there are some closed source tools developed for HP
to manage permissions and configuring the system
other then that it's a standard MDk-9.1 with all the updates
it's running a 2.4 kernel, and you can not use multiple consoles

i assume it's using Miguel solution

best,

svetljo

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Fedora Core 3]

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

Hi All!

	Seems Mandrake give the go-by Fedora.
http://slashdot.org/articles/04/07/07/0217255.shtml?tid=147&tid=187
http://h40058.www4.hp.com/products/desktops/441/techspec.html

What is 9.1.3 MandrakeSoft HP PC installation ?

Aivils

Re: Radeon 7000/VE Dual-head

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Wednesday 07 July 2004 01:04, Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> Hello everyone. I come here again to ask for help once more and to get
> some help from you guys again.
> 
> Right now I am very satisfied with the presented solution and with the
> support from all of you for my multi head question done before.
> 
> Now I am using a Radeon 7000/VE Dual-head (two connectors on one card)
> board. XFree detected it normally. When do a startx the monitors are
> identical. So I created Screen0 + Screen1 and divided them using a
> layout. Example:
> I want some help as how to activate the monitors independently like a 'X
> --some-nice-options-here Screen0' and so on.

some-nice-options-here does not exists. Configuration desrcibed by You
works only on matrox, because matrox drivers is very tuned under linux.

In theory , may be Radeon 7000/VE Dual-head can handle two
separate framebuffers. Then user can start two separate X on framebuffers.

Runs radeonfb on each head separately?

Aivils Stoss

Radeon 7000/VE Dual-head

[Rodrigo M. <ma...@in...>]

Hello everyone. I come here again to ask for help once more and to get
some help from you guys again.

Right now I am very satisfied with the presented solution and with the
support from all of you for my multi head question done before.

Now I am using a Radeon 7000/VE Dual-head (two connectors on one card)
board. XFree detected it normally. When do a startx the monitors are
identical. So I created Screen0 + Screen1 and divided them using a
layout. Example:

---BEGIN CODE---
Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "X1"
        Screen      0  "Screen1"
        #Screen      1  "Screen2"
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
        Option         "Xinerama" "off"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "X2"
        Screen      1  "Screen2"
        #Screen      0  "Screen1"
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
        Option         "Xinerama" "off"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Option "ForcePCIMode" "on"
        Identifier  "Card1"
        Driver      "radeon"
        VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
        BoardName   "Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]"
        Screen          0
        #ChipId                  0x5159
        BusID       "PCI:0:11:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Option "ForcePCIMode" "on"
        Identifier  "Card2"
        Driver      "radeon"
        VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
        BoardName   "Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]"
        Screen          1
        #ChipId                  0x5159
        BusID       "PCI:0:11:0"
EndSection
---CODE ENDS---

I want some help as how to activate the monitors independently like a 'X
--some-nice-options-here Screen0' and so on.

Thanks for all the help there, we really appreciate it.

Alexandre P. Teixeira

Re: Is there something wrong with CVS?

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Tuesday 06 July 2004 10:40, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Aivils wrote:
> 
> >On Tuesday 06 July 2004 00:26, Helge Hafting wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Is there something wrong with CVS?  I want to try
> >>ruby 2.6.7, but canot update or check out.
> >>
> >>$ cvs -z3 -d :pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/linuxconsole checkout ruby
> >>can't create temporary directory /tmp/cvs-serv9252
> >>Permission denied
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >errno lies
> >  
> >
> Do this mean that an error is reported when there really is none,
> or that there is an error I should fix but it is misreported as a
> mkdir problem when it is something else?
> 
> >>This is wrong.  I tried on two machines, both as a ordinary
> >>user and as root.  Making directories in /tmp is
> >>no problem with mkdir.  Could this be a message from the
> >>server, indicating a server problem?
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >I got similar wrong usage of errno
> >IMHO this libc incompatibility with 2.6.XX . ?-)
> >try under 2.4.26 :)
> >
> >Aivils
> >
> Thanks for the suggestion, but ouch.  I want to use 2.6,
> even ruby supports that. :-)
> 
> Do you know more about this problem?  Should I file a bug against
> the libc in debian testing?  If it is a kernel problem it must be very new,
> I remember checking out previous versions of 2.6-ruby using 2.6-kernels.

wrong errno exists in "winex" . Unfortunately i do not know more.
When i test "winex", then "winex" internal errno==0 always, but
system errno, which show strace is correct. "winex" report
similar error "Can't create directory tralla-tralla-trallalla".
Error disappears when "winex" uses pthread , i don' t know
correct solution.
IMHO that is buggy errno wrapper

Aivils Stoss

Re: [Fwd: Re: Fedora Core 3]

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Sunday 04 July 2004 01:07, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> answering the wishlist for Fedora Core 3 features, I asked for
> deeper integration of ruby and I mentioned and attached your
> PCI isolation patch (Xorg-6.7.0-isolate_device.diff).
> 
> I am forwarding what Alan Cox had to say about it. :-)

As far i know only one north american uses ruby - James.

If You send emotionless leter, then You do not reach target,
because them rich americans can not understand about what You talk.
But You told "please change back left rubber" .

Only large petition can assure someone do so suspicious
changes in the kernel. Alan Cox is not a king. He should assure
anothers!

Aivils

Re: Is there something wrong with CVS?

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Tuesday 06 July 2004 00:26, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Is there something wrong with CVS?  I want to try
> ruby 2.6.7, but canot update or check out.
> 
> $ cvs -z3 -d :pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/linuxconsole checkout ruby
> can't create temporary directory /tmp/cvs-serv9252
> Permission denied

errno lies

> 
> This is wrong.  I tried on two machines, both as a ordinary
> user and as root.  Making directories in /tmp is
> no problem with mkdir.  Could this be a message from the
> server, indicating a server problem?

I got similar wrong usage of errno
IMHO this libc incompatibility with 2.6.XX . ?-)
try under 2.4.26 :)

Aivils

Is there something wrong with CVS?

[Helge H. <hel...@ai...>]

Is there something wrong with CVS?  I want to try
ruby 2.6.7, but canot update or check out.

$ cvs -z3 -d :pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/linuxconsole checkout ruby
can't create temporary directory /tmp/cvs-serv9252
Permission denied


This is wrong.  I tried on two machines, both as a ordinary
user and as root.  Making directories in /tmp is
no problem with mkdir.  Could this be a message from the
server, indicating a server problem?


Is there any other way to get the latest ruby-2.6 source?

Helge Hafting

Re: CPU load balance or one task domination under linux-2.6.7-ruby-s77

[Daniel S. <dan...@ep...>]

> Anyway if two users run games simultaneous, then one game allways
> dominate.
> If i set "nice -n +1 game-bin"  for each user , then both games
> became choppy, because lost priority against system tasks.

I set every game-binary to nice value +10 and it works quite smooth.
It's choppy w/ default nice value.

Daniel

Re: [ck] CPU load balance or one task domination under linux-2.6.7-ruby-s77

[Con K. <ke...@ko...>]

Aivils wrote:
> Hi All!
> 
> 	I try multiple local user linux box.
> All 2.6.XX kernel versions from 2.6.0 up to 2.6.7 do one task domination.
> I applay before staircase 7 and now staircase 7.7
> 
> Anyway if two users run games simultaneous, then one game allways
> dominate.
> If i set "nice -n +1 game-bin"  for each user , then both games
> became choppy, because lost priority against system tasks.
> 
> Second phenomen - tuxracer under 2.4.26 take 1%-3% CPU time,
> but under 2.6.7-s77 it eat 80%. As result i cannot test thiny games
> simultaneous, because thiny goes fat and choppy.
> 
> Does know anybody is this phenomen realy depended from task
> scheduler alghoritm?
> 
> May be that is system call queue?

Hi

Please try staircase7.8 and use
echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/interactive

cpu time accounting can be out by a great margin changing Hz (as happens 
between 2.4 and 2.6). Higher Hz will always show higher cpu usage even 
if the usage is the same. If a task waes up at just the right time 
frequently enough it can appear to use 10 times as much cpu.

Con

Re: Problem with keyboard generating events persists in 2.6.7

[Kjetil K. <kj...@kj...>]

On mandag 5. juli 2004, 19:27, Helge Hafting wrote:
> How do you get ruby out of cvs these days?

Hm, it worked fine for me just a few days ago... No idea.

> Perhaps a USB driver p=EF=BF=BDroblem?

It could be. I contacted Greg Kroah-Hartmann like Zoltan suggested, no=20
response yet.

> What's inferior about using keyboards on ps/2? That's what I use,
> and serial mice.  That way I didn't have to buy any new keyboard.

Oh, it is just the availability of suitable extension cables... Now the=20
place is a mess with cables all over, some of them is a bit short, but=20
I have this very nice 5m cable with VGA+2xPS/2-in-one, and I'd like to=20
use that. It would be so much more maintainable. Especially when you=20
want to clean out the corners. I did that the other day. Whoah! :-)=20

Cheers,

Kjetil
=2D-=20
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Re: Problem with keyboard generating events persists in 2.6.7

[Helge H. <hel...@ai...>]

On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 01:10:26PM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I've finally taken the steps up to kernel 2.6! I compiled 2.6.7 a couple 
> of days ago with Ruby from the CVS, and stuff works pretty nicely. :-) 
> Thanks again for all the efforts you put into this!
> 
How do you get ruby out of cvs these days?

$ cvs -z3 -d :pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/linuxconsole update ruby
cvs [update aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.sourceforge.net: M PserverBackend::PserverBackend() Connect (No route to host)

I don't have routing trouble - I can ping cvs1.sourceforge.net

> However, the problem I had with 2.4 last year still persists. To 
> summarize it: I have a "Tangtop Generic USBPS2" device that can be 
> plugged in a USB port that has a connector for both PS/2 keyboard and 
> mouse. I'd like to use that for my secondary head in a multi-head 
> setup. 

Perhaps a USB driver p�roblem?
> 
> It comes up and looks normal, but all of a sudden, it starts generating 
> events on one of the keyboards. The symptoms are the same as I had with 
> 2.4 last year, which I reported here on the list, thread starting here:
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=6466803
> 
> Well, I just wanted to let you know. The Real World[tm] is still 
> dictating that I need to live with a somewhat inferior setup right now 
> (where I have both mice on USB and both keyboards on PS/2), but of 
> course I hope to get back to it to help debugging some day.
> 
What's inferior about using keyboards on ps/2? That's what I use,
and serial mice.  That way I didn't have to buy any new keyboard.

Helge Hafting

CPU load balance or one task domination under linux-2.6.7-ruby-s77

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

Hi All!

	I try multiple local user linux box.
All 2.6.XX kernel versions from 2.6.0 up to 2.6.7 do one task domination.
I applay before staircase 7 and now staircase 7.7

Anyway if two users run games simultaneous, then one game allways
dominate.
If i set "nice -n +1 game-bin"  for each user , then both games
became choppy, because lost priority against system tasks.

Second phenomen - tuxracer under 2.4.26 take 1%-3% CPU time,
but under 2.6.7-s77 it eat 80%. As result i cannot test thiny games
simultaneous, because thiny goes fat and choppy.

Does know anybody is this phenomen realy depended from task
scheduler alghoritm?

May be that is system call queue?


Aivils Stoss

Re: Slashdot on quad Xfree screens

[Svetoslav S. <sv...@gm...>]

> Enjoy:
> 
>
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/03/1923255&mode=thread&tid=106&tid=137&tid=185&tid=189

that's really, really GREAT :-)

finaly some publicity :-)

best,

svetljo

PS.

Aivils, 
thank you very much for your great job
:-)

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[Fwd: Re: Fedora Core 3]

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Hi,

answering the wishlist for Fedora Core 3 features, I asked for
deeper integration of ruby and I mentioned and attached your
PCI isolation patch (Xorg-6.7.0-isolate_device.diff).

I am forwarding what Alan Cox had to say about it. :-)

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

Slashdot on quad Xfree screens

[Henrion B. <bh...@ud...>]

Enjoy:

http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/03/1923255&mode=thread&tid=106&tid=137&tid=185&tid=189

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Re: Problem with keyboard generating events persists in 2.6.7

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Kjetil Kjernsmo =EDrta:
> However, the problem I had with 2.4 last year still persists. To=20
> summarize it: I have a "Tangtop Generic USBPS2" device that can be=20
> plugged in a USB port that has a connector for both PS/2 keyboard and=20
> mouse. I'd like to use that for my secondary head in a multi-head=20
> setup.
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> It comes up and looks normal, but all of a sudden, it starts generating=
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> events on one of the keyboards. The symptoms are the same as I had with=
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> 2.4 last year, which I reported here on the list, thread starting here:
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=3D6466803

I think there may be a problem with this gadget. Try contacting
Greg Kroah-Hartmann <gr...@kr...> and/or the lin...@su...
mailing list. He or someone on the list may already know the answer.

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

Problem with keyboard generating events persists in 2.6.7

[Kjetil K. <kj...@kj...>]

Hi all!

I've finally taken the steps up to kernel 2.6! I compiled 2.6.7 a couple 
of days ago with Ruby from the CVS, and stuff works pretty nicely. :-) 
Thanks again for all the efforts you put into this!

However, the problem I had with 2.4 last year still persists. To 
summarize it: I have a "Tangtop Generic USBPS2" device that can be 
plugged in a USB port that has a connector for both PS/2 keyboard and 
mouse. I'd like to use that for my secondary head in a multi-head 
setup. 

It comes up and looks normal, but all of a sudden, it starts generating 
events on one of the keyboards. The symptoms are the same as I had with 
2.4 last year, which I reported here on the list, thread starting here:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=6466803

Well, I just wanted to let you know. The Real World[tm] is still 
dictating that I need to live with a somewhat inferior setup right now 
(where I have both mice on USB and both keyboards on PS/2), but of 
course I hope to get back to it to help debugging some day.

/me is not subscribed to the list, please CC any replies.

Cheers,

Kjetil
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Re: [Xorg] Local Multi Users

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Saturday 26 June 2004 00:27, Alexandre wrote:
> > > Having to use an "order" is no good.  People on a multi-user
> > > machine logs in and out on the different consoles all the time, and X
> > > obviously restarts everytime. 
> > 
> > does X restarts really ? :-)
> > <snip from my gdm conf>
> > # If you are having trouble with using a single server for a long time and
> > # want gdm to kill/restart the server, turn this on
> > #AlwaysRestartServer=false
> > </snip>

I allways bypass restart of xf86. I use "AlwaysRestartServer=false"
So i keep "order". That is possible Nvidia driver issues.

> > > Gdm might be capable of starting the initial
> > > login sessions in the "right" order, but then two users logs in, the one
> > > with the card that must be loaded "first" then logs out and someone else
> > > logs in - restarting X on that card "last".
> > 
> > IIRC gdm follows the order in which the servers are specified 
> > in it's config file
> > on start : 1,2,3,.....
> > on shutdown : ...,3,2,1
> > 
> > IMO user logins/logouts doesn't metter 
> > 
> 
> As a matter of fact the logins/logouts do *NOT* matter. Once loaded they
> will reamin loaded untill the next reboot.
> 
> There is something really interesting here. When we log on with three
> monitors any user can logout and X won't shutdown (as we intended). 
> 
> However, with four monitors the order in gdm's session list is getting
> strange... 
> 
> Since this is not a simple problem I will try to simulate a little of
> what's going on here. Please try to understand this simulation:
> 
> => I try load gdm in an given order wich I configure in gdm.conf
>    (for example, let's imagine X0, X1, X2, X3 for our example).
> 
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X0 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X1 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X2 up.... FAILED.
>    But magically the X0 monitor _and_ X2 are frozen-up!!
>    Also X3 is not loaded, since we didn't get there.
> 
>    Now I do a "kill <gdm and his childs AND the X server>".
>    Now X0, X1, X2, X3 and the X server are dead.
> 
> => Now I edit my gdm.conf and try (X2, X0, X1, X3). Let's try it...
> 
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X2 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X0 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X1 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Now gdm is trying to bring X3 up.... SUCCESS!!
>    Everything works now!! I am lucky!
>    Users may login and logout and everything works alright!!
> 
> => Now, I'm in heaven. I am kind of the hill... so now I am going to
> reboot and load everything again.

This suxcess story looks similar my.
Historical review.
TNT2(PCI) + TNT2(PCI)  all flawless , all xf86 are restartable.

GeForceMX440(AGP)+TNT2(PCI) + TNT2(PCI)
xf86 on AGP restart works nearly 90%

GeForceMX440(AGP)+GeForceFX5200(PCI) + TNT2(PCI)
system becames totaly capricious. restart of xf86 works nearly 50%.
nvidia.o wrote in dmesg

nvidia: rm_init_adapter() failed

That adpater will work only after reboot. Any kernel reinstall
make Nvidia driver unexcpected. I try various "order" "-probeonly"
and so on. All tests under 2.4.XX serie, nvidia driver versions
are forgotten. I just use latest nvidia closed source driver.
It works allways.

What does "X -probeonly"?

If You use -isolateDevice (-prefbusid), then xf86 can see only
one video adapter, which is allowed by Your commandline.
Some specific drivers (Nvidia) for good start must have
all adapters available, because have only one kernel module.
Kernel module may not do proper initialisation of all adapters,
if xf86 will not call all adapters, because some adapters are
hidden by commandline of xf86.
"X -probeonly" during initialisation call all adapters. Kernel
module keep all adapters in working state. Later restart of separate
xf86 will work nice.
This is my work hypothesis.

What does "order"?

%-( Truth is out of here

Aivils Stoss