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Hardware problems on booting

[vineesh k. <vi...@hc...>]

Hi all,
  i am a newbie to the list and also multi head booting. I am trying to
configure multihead booting on RH Linux 9.0. With an SiS integrated
graphics card and ATI radeon LT pro PCI card. I compile the ruby patched
kernel.And everything is ok. The problem is that when the kernel loads
the usb mouse gets disabled and usb keyboard too. I am using a Silitek
keybiard.and an optical mouse.But i can start X server on the secon
monitor. After that the system hangsup.
 I tested the same kernel with some other system, a p4 with original
intel MB. There is no problem with the kernel now but there is some
hradware incompatibilities so i can't start the x on the second monitor.
 
  wat may b the problm
   thanks in advance
          vineesh

Re: Linux console / Ruby patch on dual PCI Express

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Magnus Lundstedt =EDrta:
> This is my first post to this list, I hope everyting works. :)=20
>=20
> I am using kernel 2.6.* with ruby on my home computer since december la=
st=20
> year. I have two nvidia graphicscard - TNT2 Ultra PCI and Geforce4 AGP.=
=20
>=20
> Everything works as it should and without problems, now I have a few=20
> questions:=20
>=20
> 1) When will this patch go into the main linux tree? What is left to do=
 before=20
> it can merge, or is that "out of the question" / not gonna happen in th=
e=20
> forseable future?=20

As I heard, it won't get into the kernel in this form.
Instead, one of the development directions of Linux-2.7.x
will be to remove the console system from the kernel and
create a user space console system. This way, all the past,
present and future races will be removed as well, that plagued
the development of 2.[56].x and were only solved in late
2.6.x.

> 2) Several vendors (via, nvidia, etc) will soon start selling mobo-chip=
sets=20
> capable of dual PCI-express or AGP + PCI-express slots.=20
>=20
> First (a); will PCI-express cards work "just like" AGP cards in general=
 in=20
> linux.=20

They should.

> Second (b); will PCI-express motherboards/graphicscards work "out of th=
e box"=20
> with linux?=20

They should.

> Third (c); Does Linux support multiple AGP ports today, which the AGP-s=
tandard=20
> does.=20

The kernel should support it, as all the PCI-like devices are discovered
through the PCI BIOS calls. But I am yet to hear about such a mainboard
that implements the "sidecar" AGP that is part of the AGP 3.0 standard.

> If it does, will it be possible to use one of these dual PCI-express bo=
ards=20
> with the ruby patch to make a system with two X-consoles where each has=
 one=20
> PCI-express graphics card?

The answer is "definitely, yes" here. :-)

> A system like that would be very intresting, since I am today having pr=
oblems=20
> with openGL and other accelerated graphics on the PCI nvidia card. (whi=
ch I=20
> assume is due to the poor performance of the PCI bus, I only get ca 700=
 fps=20
> in glxgears on the PCI card, and xv-accelerated video has lower fps (so=
me=20
> jerkiness) than xv on the AGP graphicscard).=20

I had the same problem, like one of our daughters played SuperTux on the
X server that drove my PCI Radeon and it hogged even IDE transfers.
I reniced the X server (renice 10 <pid of X>), and it almost solved the
problem. I say "almost" because now the SuperTux lowered the framerate,
pretty much visibly. I haven't experimented more.

> So, in summare, my second question is; Does anyone know if the future d=
ual=20
> PCI-express (or PCI-express + AGP port) motherboards (such as the VIA=20
> K8T890Pro or nvidia Nforce 4 SLI) will work with linux and the ruby pat=
ch in=20
> particular to set up a multi-console system using fast gfx cards?=20

They should work.

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

Re: Linux console / Ruby patch on dual PCI Express

[Hugo V. <hvw...@ya...>]

--- Magnus Lundstedt
<lin...@ma...> wrote:

> This is my first post to this list, I hope everyting
> works. :) 
> 
> I am using kernel 2.6.* with ruby on my home
> computer since december last 
> year. I have two nvidia graphicscard - TNT2 Ultra
> PCI and Geforce4 AGP. 
> 
> Everything works as it should and without problems,
> now I have a few 
> questions: 
> 
> 1) When will this patch go into the main linux tree?
> What is left to do before 
> it can merge, or is that "out of the question" / not
> gonna happen in the 
> forseable future? 
> 
> 2) Several vendors (via, nvidia, etc) will soon
> start selling mobo-chipsets 
> capable of dual PCI-express or AGP + PCI-express
> slots. 
> 
> First (a); will PCI-express cards work "just like"
> AGP cards in general in 
> linux. 
> 
> Second (b); will PCI-express
> motherboards/graphicscards work "out of the box" 
> with linux? 
> 
> Third (c); Does Linux support multiple AGP ports
> today, which the AGP-standard 
> does. 
> 
> If it does, will it be possible to use one of these
> dual PCI-express boards 
> with the ruby patch to make a system with two
> X-consoles where each has one 
> PCI-express graphics card?
> 
> A system like that would be very intresting, since I
> am today having problems 
> with openGL and other accelerated graphics on the
> PCI nvidia card. (which I 
> assume is due to the poor performance of the PCI
> bus, I only get ca 700 fps 
> in glxgears on the PCI card, and xv-accelerated
> video has lower fps (some 
> jerkiness) than xv on the AGP graphicscard). 
> 

We have the same system in reverse: I have TNT2-AGP
and MX-440-PCI. On the latter I get 1077 fps and on
the former 474 fps.

But my problem, I think is the CPU processor: 850MHz
just is not enough to drive the 2 X servers. It might
also be 2.6.9. But Aivils would know.

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Linux console / Ruby patch on dual PCI Express

[Magnus L. <lin...@ma...>]

This is my first post to this list, I hope everyting works. :) 

I am using kernel 2.6.* with ruby on my home computer since december last 
year. I have two nvidia graphicscard - TNT2 Ultra PCI and Geforce4 AGP. 

Everything works as it should and without problems, now I have a few 
questions: 

1) When will this patch go into the main linux tree? What is left to do before 
it can merge, or is that "out of the question" / not gonna happen in the 
forseable future? 

2) Several vendors (via, nvidia, etc) will soon start selling mobo-chipsets 
capable of dual PCI-express or AGP + PCI-express slots. 

First (a); will PCI-express cards work "just like" AGP cards in general in 
linux. 

Second (b); will PCI-express motherboards/graphicscards work "out of the box" 
with linux? 

Third (c); Does Linux support multiple AGP ports today, which the AGP-standard 
does. 

If it does, will it be possible to use one of these dual PCI-express boards 
with the ruby patch to make a system with two X-consoles where each has one 
PCI-express graphics card?

A system like that would be very intresting, since I am today having problems 
with openGL and other accelerated graphics on the PCI nvidia card. (which I 
assume is due to the poor performance of the PCI bus, I only get ca 700 fps 
in glxgears on the PCI card, and xv-accelerated video has lower fps (some 
jerkiness) than xv on the AGP graphicscard). 

So, in summare, my second question is; Does anyone know if the future dual 
PCI-express (or PCI-express + AGP port) motherboards (such as the VIA 
K8T890Pro or nvidia Nforce 4 SLI) will work with linux and the ruby patch in 
particular to set up a multi-console system using fast gfx cards? 

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Hardware vendors make twin mobo

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

Hi All!

	Now we have motherboard prepared for two users :o)
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20041119/index.html

Here interesting is PS/2 port spliter. Looks like mobo designers
improve i8042 emulation! Special mobo Jetway's 915P-TWIN can
handle two PS/2 devices on each PS/2 port, of course with special
drivers.

Article notify about WinXP licence for _each_ end-user.
Mentioned is impossibility playing 3D games against each other %-|

Mine doubt about Linux input drivers capability handle two PS/2
devices on one PS/2 port - so, no advantage for linux-ruby systems.

Aivils

Re: FC3 and ruby, not working [updated]

[Ricardo A. G. <rgo...@co...>]

first, a correction:
startx -- vt7 : Don't work (problem with keyboard)
why? my bug. I'm using tty1-8 and first free tty is '9' startx -- vt9 
run Ok. (gdm updated to use vt9 and not vt7 run ok too)

This problem is solved, now I have a bug (that come from FC2+nvidia 
6111, my first ruby experience): sometimes X0 (first server) hang 
(display/keyboard/mouse) and process X0 use 100% of cpu (second server 
run ok). I is 100% reproducible with xmatrix 
(/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/xmatrix), and never happens in X1. I feel 
it is not 'ruby related' bug. I will test it in  FC3's kernel (without 
patches) and send comments.

Ricardo.-

Ricardo Ariel Gorosito wrote:

> My new tests with FC3's kernel + ruby & NVIDIA driver 6111 (without 
> isolatebusid, with 'hackvideo'=1):
> startx -- vt7 : Ok (mouse & keyboard)
> startx -- vt17 : Ok (mouse & keyboard)
> gdm : First display hang (kerboard only, mouse ok) and second display 
> ok. If I try to kill X0 (first server), PC hang
> I have BusID options (not isolatedbusid) in xorg.conf
>
> Ricardo.-
>
> Aivils wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 18 November 2004 08:47, Ricardo Ariel Gorosito wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> I patched the Fedora 3 official kernel with 
>>> ruby-2.6.9-20041021.diff.bz2 and patched Xorg with 
>>> Xorg-6.7.0-isolate_device.patch but I can't get X work.
>>> I'm using 2 nvidia cards (AGP is Geforce4 MX 4000 and PCI Geforce2 
>>> MX/MX 400). This config run ok with Fedora 2 and nvidia's 6111.
>>> I've installed NVidia 6629 and 6111 with same results:
>>> * using isolatebusid option:
>>> first X start, second not. when I press any key en first console, 
>>> screen black and back
>>> * without isolatebusid option, with or without 'hackvideo=1':
>>> first X start, when second try to start, machine hang
>>>   
>>
>>
>> I never test Xorg. I am under Mandrake 10.0
>> If X will use right keyboard, after command
>> startx -- vt7
>> startx -- vt17
>> then all rest manipulations are magic.
>> Most helpful in my case is starting X -probeonly , where X use
>> conifguration without any "isolatebusid", be sure please, if You use
>> option in the Server Layout , then  "isolatebusid" is allways turned on.
>> X -probeonly can use all videoadaters and properly
>> initializes nvidia kernel module. You can check out probeonly log
>> file.
>>
>> Aivils 
>

Re: FC3 and ruby, not working

[Ricardo A. G. <rgo...@co...>]

My new tests with FC3's kernel + ruby & NVIDIA driver 6111 (without 
isolatebusid, with 'hackvideo'=1):
startx -- vt7 : Ok (mouse & keyboard)
startx -- vt17 : Ok (mouse & keyboard)
gdm : First display hang (kerboard only, mouse ok) and second display 
ok. If I try to kill X0 (first server), PC hang
I have BusID options (not isolatedbusid) in xorg.conf

Ricardo.-

Aivils wrote:

>On Thursday 18 November 2004 08:47, Ricardo Ariel Gorosito wrote:
>  
>
>>I patched the Fedora 3 official kernel with ruby-2.6.9-20041021.diff.bz2 
>>and patched Xorg with Xorg-6.7.0-isolate_device.patch but I can't get X 
>>work.
>>I'm using 2 nvidia cards (AGP is Geforce4 MX 4000 and PCI Geforce2 MX/MX 
>>400). This config run ok with Fedora 2 and nvidia's 6111.
>>I've installed NVidia 6629 and 6111 with same results:
>>* using isolatebusid option:
>>first X start, second not. when I press any key en first console, screen 
>>black and back
>>* without isolatebusid option, with or without 'hackvideo=1':
>>first X start, when second try to start, machine hang
>>    
>>
>
>I never test Xorg. I am under Mandrake 10.0
>If X will use right keyboard, after command
>startx -- vt7
>startx -- vt17
>then all rest manipulations are magic.
>Most helpful in my case is starting X -probeonly , where X use
>conifguration without any "isolatebusid", be sure please, if You use
>option in the Server Layout , then  "isolatebusid" is allways turned on.
>X -probeonly can use all videoadaters and properly
>initializes nvidia kernel module. You can check out probeonly log
>file.
>
>Aivils
>
>  
>

Re: FC3 and ruby, not working

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Thursday 18 November 2004 08:47, Ricardo Ariel Gorosito wrote:
> I patched the Fedora 3 official kernel with ruby-2.6.9-20041021.diff.bz2 
> and patched Xorg with Xorg-6.7.0-isolate_device.patch but I can't get X 
> work.
> I'm using 2 nvidia cards (AGP is Geforce4 MX 4000 and PCI Geforce2 MX/MX 
> 400). This config run ok with Fedora 2 and nvidia's 6111.
> I've installed NVidia 6629 and 6111 with same results:
> * using isolatebusid option:
> first X start, second not. when I press any key en first console, screen 
> black and back
> * without isolatebusid option, with or without 'hackvideo=1':
> first X start, when second try to start, machine hang

I never test Xorg. I am under Mandrake 10.0
If X will use right keyboard, after command
startx -- vt7
startx -- vt17
then all rest manipulations are magic.
Most helpful in my case is starting X -probeonly , where X use
conifguration without any "isolatebusid", be sure please, if You use
option in the Server Layout , then  "isolatebusid" is allways turned on.
X -probeonly can use all videoadaters and properly
initializes nvidia kernel module. You can check out probeonly log
file.

Aivils

Re: FC3 and ruby, not working

[James v. Z. <ja...@dv...>]

nvidia 6629 driver +ruby tests OK against FC2.

I haven't got a successful kernel compile under FC3 as yet, so not much
help from me...

I found sometimes if you are using AGP as primary video, try the PCI
instead if crashing on attempted start of second X, but I don't recall
that being a help as far as software changes go, more so just getting it
to work at all.

J

On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 16:47, Ricardo Ariel Gorosito wrote:
> I patched the Fedora 3 official kernel with ruby-2.6.9-20041021.diff.bz2 
> and patched Xorg with Xorg-6.7.0-isolate_device.patch but I can't get X 
> work.
> I'm using 2 nvidia cards (AGP is Geforce4 MX 4000 and PCI Geforce2 MX/MX 
> 400). This config run ok with Fedora 2 and nvidia's 6111.
> I've installed NVidia 6629 and 6111 with same results:
> * using isolatebusid option:
> first X start, second not. when I press any key en first console, screen 
> black and back
> * without isolatebusid option, with or without 'hackvideo=1':
> first X start, when second try to start, machine hang
> 
> Ricardo.-
> 
> 
> 
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FC3 and ruby, not working

[Ricardo A. G. <rgo...@co...>]

I patched the Fedora 3 official kernel with ruby-2.6.9-20041021.diff.bz2 
and patched Xorg with Xorg-6.7.0-isolate_device.patch but I can't get X 
work.
I'm using 2 nvidia cards (AGP is Geforce4 MX 4000 and PCI Geforce2 MX/MX 
400). This config run ok with Fedora 2 and nvidia's 6111.
I've installed NVidia 6629 and 6111 with same results:
* using isolatebusid option:
first X start, second not. when I press any key en first console, screen 
black and back
* without isolatebusid option, with or without 'hackvideo=1':
first X start, when second try to start, machine hang

Ricardo.-

Re: FC3/x86_64 and ruby

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Hi,

I wanted to add something to my success story:

FC3 uses a dynamic /dev management, called 'udev' and my previous
attempt at sharing some devices, like my sound card between the heads
that worked on FC1 were not enough on FC3.

Here is the things I had to do:

1. Edit /etc/security/console.perms and comment out every device
    collection you want to share.

2. Create some groups for the device collections you commented out
    in the above file, e.g. create a group called "sound" and add this
    group to every user as a secondary group.

3. Edit /etc/udev/permissions.d/50-udev.permissions and change
    the group for the individual device files that belong to that
    group, e.g.:

# audio devices
dsp*:root:sound:0660
audio*:root:sound:0660
midi*:root:sound:0660
mixer*:root:sound:0660
sequencer*:root:sound:0660
sound/*:root:sound:0660
snd/*:root:sound:0660
beep:root:sound:0660
admm*:root:sound:0660
adsp*:root:sound:0660
aload*:root:sound:0660
amidi*:root:sound:0660
dmfm*:root:sound:0660
dmmidi*:root:sound:0660
sndstat:root:sound:0660

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

FC3/x86_64 and ruby

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

Hi,

I just wanted to tell my second success story on this
Athlon64 machine. :-)

MSI K8T Neo FIS2R mainboard, Radeon 9200SE AGP, Radeon 7000 PCI,
two PS2 keyboards, two USB mice.

I deleted my old 32 bit Fedora Core 1 and installed Fedora Core 3/x86_64
and today I finished setting it up for multihead.

I patched the Fedora official kernel with ruby-2.6.9-20041021.diff.bz2,
the patch applied smoothly but that didn't compile at first because of
this chunk for fs/compat_ioctl.c:

----------------------------------------------
@@ -1609,8 +1611,10 @@ static int do_fontx_ioctl(unsigned int f
                     get_user(data, &user_cfd->chardata))
                         return -EFAULT;
                 op.data =3D compat_ptr(data);
-               return con_font_op(fg_console, &op);
+               return con_font_op(vc, &op);
         case GIO_FONTX:
+               if (!cfdarg.chardata)
+                       return 0;
                 op.op =3D KD_FONT_OP_GET;
                 op.flags =3D 0;
                 op.width =3D 8;
----------------------------------------------

The "if (!cfdarg.chardata)" should be "if (!user_cfd->chardata)".

Another problem is that I had to disable building the smp kernel
because vt.c did not want to link at the very end of the compilation.
It was OK during the UP kernel, though. It turned out that
"free_bootmem()" was not defined when compiling for SMP kernel.
It was only declared in some .h file, so it compiled but didn't link.
I looked at the changes in the ruby patch and it's suspicious that
the original vt.c does not call free_bootmem() anywhere, though it
calls alloc_bootmem(). Commenting out the free_bootmem() call should
have fixed it.

I have to apply the IsolatePCI patch to FC3's XOrg X11 6.8.1.

It works as well as my FC1 before, and it still has the one problem
that does not annoy me anymore: logging out on the first display
( :0 ) blanks the second display ( :1 ). Changing resolution by pressing
Crtl-Alt-Num+/- brings the second display back.

Best regards,
Zolt=E1n B=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi

FC3 fail to compile ruby kernel?

[James v. Z. <ja...@dv...>]

Just upgraded a box from FC2 to FC3; trying to compile latest kernel on
it, failed at :

[root@blue linux-2.6.9-ruby.vz9]# make
  CHK     include/linux/version.h
make[1]: `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s' is up to date.
  CHK     include/linux/compile.h
  CC      drivers/char/vt_ioctl.o
drivers/char/vt_ioctl.c: In function `switch_screen':
drivers/char/vt_ioctl.c:635: warning: implicit declaration of function
`clear_buffer_attributes'
include/linux/vt_kern.h:316: sorry, unimplemented: inlining failed in
call to 'save_screen': function body not available
drivers/char/vt_ioctl.c:621: sorry, unimplemented: called from here
make[2]: *** [drivers/char/vt_ioctl.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [drivers/char] Error 2
make: *** [drivers] Error 2
[root@blue linux-2.6.9-ruby.vz9]#

same kernel compile and run over FC2 and RH9

Is this ruby? new gcc breaks compile?

something I did to it?

J

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Re: about a database of hardware

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Wednesday 10 November 2004 11:32, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Aivils wrote:
> 
> >On Monday 08 November 2004 18:24, Jean-Daniel Pauget wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>    I remember some peoples here talked about a database of hardware/software
> >>    configurations suitable for ruby and/or bruby...
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >I think all suitable sets of hardware/software will be reduced
> >to video card compatibility, because each video card under
> >XFree86 uses specific driver, which is most important
> >neither kernel version nor glibc version nor XFree/Xorg version.
> >
> >  
> >
> There is one added problem.  The pc bios tend to
> initialize one card only, and some cards don't work
> at all until the bios initialization have run. 
> Now, xfree/xorg can run bios initialization for any
> card, but that will only help those who want to
> run X.  I cannot see how it will help those who
> want to run fbcon on several cards.

I think in fbcon case most helpful is prayer.
I am not capable solve fb low level driver troubles,
which pop up allways.

Aivils

Re: about a database of hardware

[Helge H. <hel...@hi...>]

Aivils wrote:

>On Monday 08 November 2004 18:24, Jean-Daniel Pauget wrote:
>  
>
>>    I remember some peoples here talked about a database of hardware/software
>>    configurations suitable for ruby and/or bruby...
>>    
>>
>
>I think all suitable sets of hardware/software will be reduced
>to video card compatibility, because each video card under
>XFree86 uses specific driver, which is most important
>neither kernel version nor glibc version nor XFree/Xorg version.
>
>  
>
There is one added problem.  The pc bios tend to
initialize one card only, and some cards don't work
at all until the bios initialization have run. 
Now, xfree/xorg can run bios initialization for any
card, but that will only help those who want to
run X.  I cannot see how it will help those who
want to run fbcon on several cards.

Helge Hafting

Re: about a database of hardware

[Hugo V. <hvw...@ya...>]

--- Aivils <ai...@un...> wrote:

> On Monday 08 November 2004 18:24, Jean-Daniel Pauget
> wrote:
> > 
> >     I remember some peoples here talked about a
> database of hardware/software
> >     configurations suitable for ruby and/or
> bruby...
> 
> I think all suitable sets of hardware/software will
> be reduced
> to video card compatibility, because each video card
> under
> XFree86 uses specific driver, which is most
> important
> neither kernel version nor glibc version nor
> XFree/Xorg version.
> 
> Actualy should be printed video card
> chipset/manufacturer
> xf86 driver [version].
> 
> I keep this one:
> http://www.ltn.lv/~aivils/eng-video.html
> You are wellcome edit this file.
> 

Add this one to your db:

Nividia GeForce4MX440(PCI)+TNT2M64(AGP)
 Success. If Nvidia closed source driver use 
-probeonly first.  Nv works also with Debian Sarge
XFree86.

Hugo


		
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Re: about a database of hardware

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Monday 08 November 2004 18:24, Jean-Daniel Pauget wrote:
> 
>     I remember some peoples here talked about a database of hardware/software
>     configurations suitable for ruby and/or bruby...

I think all suitable sets of hardware/software will be reduced
to video card compatibility, because each video card under
XFree86 uses specific driver, which is most important
neither kernel version nor glibc version nor XFree/Xorg version.

Actualy should be printed video card chipset/manufacturer
xf86 driver [version].

I keep this one:
http://www.ltn.lv/~aivils/eng-video.html
You are wellcome edit this file.

If someone cannot start linux-ruby under 2.6.XX ,then
cause is 2.6.XX kernel , which is unstable, incompatible, under
development and so on, and so on.

Of course front end of linuxconsole.sf.net does not look nice today,
because freezy in the 2001, but only administrator can change it.


Aivils

Re: about a database of hardware

[Hugo V. <hvw...@ya...>]

--- Jean-Daniel Pauget <jd...@di...> wrote:

> 
>     I remember some peoples here talked about a
> database of hardware/software
>     configurations suitable for ruby and/or bruby...
> 

It was I. I heard no more, I´d still be interested, I
still think it is needed. But I need info, obviously:
what is the software, what is the hardware, what
works, what does not work, where can I contact you,
the informer.

I even installed a blog, but I am only on a dialup
line, being in Mexico outside of the city.

Hugo

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[Jean-Daniel P. <jd...@di...>]

    I remember some peoples here talked about a database of hardware/softwa=
re
    configurations suitable for ruby and/or bruby...

    is it online somewhere ?
    are there several of them to be merged ?

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for dinosaurs runn 2.4.x : 2.4.28-rc2

[Jean-Daniel P. <jd...@di...>]

    simple and straightforward continuation of bruby for the 2.4.x tree :
    http://disjunkt.com/dualhead/bruby-2.4.28-rc2-20041108.bz2
    http://disjunkt.com/dualhead/

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Re: motherboards

[Ander C. de O. <an...@c3...>]

ludovic pollet escreveu:
> An option to enable/disable the vga state save/restore would be usefull !
> (At least with 2.4 kernel ) Could you send a patch ?

This patch doesn't disable vga save/restore. It just initializes the
vgaHWPTr structure so that secondary cards access it's own memory space.
This prevents the computer from hanging at server startup. The problem
with restore can be solved by disabling the RestoreBySetMode option of
the sis driver.
> 
> Ludovic Pollet

Ander Conselvan de Oliveira

> 
> Le jeudi 4 Novembre 2004 12:32, Ander Conselvan de Oliveira a écrit :
> 
>>I was debugging the X server with two pci sis315pro cards, and I found
>>that the computer hangs when the server tries to access the vga memory
>>to save the vga state. The problem appears to be that no matter what
>>card is being started, the server always tries to save the state of the
>>primary vga card. Removing the lines that save and restore the vga state
>>I could init the two servers.
>>
>>Ander
>>
>>Observer wrote:
>>
>>>I found that some motherboards at incompatible with ruby at some degree,
>>>running 2 xservers using the same driver will hang the system, have any
>>>of you have this problem?
>>>I have only some old motherboards where i have get a usable
>>>configuration, but i would like to know about some recent working models
>>>so i can change the one i have, any suggestions?
>>>I think the problem is part xfree and part the bios, the system cant
>>>allocate resources for the cards, when running a "normal" xfree
>>>multihead configuration the server resolves any conflict and it works
>>>fine but running whit SingleCard or IsolateBus the system hangs when the
>>>second copy of the same config is loaded and before any log is written
>>>to disk, I have debugged the server but i havent found the exact line
>>>where it hangs (I think it hangs after the actual error has happened).
>>>I'm attaching the output of dmesg and lspci -v in case someone can help
>>>me out with this.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
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Re: motherboards (Ander Conselvan de Oliveira)

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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:46:28 -0800
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 09:32:16 -0200
> From: Ander Conselvan de Oliveira <an...@c3...>
> Reply-To:  lin...@li...
> To: Observer <obs...@mo...>
> CC:  lin...@li...
> Subject: Re: motherboards
> 
> I was debugging the X server with two pci sis315pro cards, and I found
> that the computer hangs when the server tries to access the vga memory
> to save the vga state. The problem appears to be that no matter what 
> card is being started, the server always tries to save the state of
> the primary vga card. Removing the lines that save and restore the vga
> state I could init the two servers.
> 
> Ander
> 

My observation is (as I worked for more than 3 and half months till
Zoltan came for my rescue at last) that the multihead does not work in a
built-in AGP in motherboards like that of Intel and also it does not
work with the sis cards :( What I did was I acquired a new nVIDIA
GeForce MX 4000 card and exchanged the old sis card with the s3 Virge/Dx
and it worked perfect. :)

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Re: motherboards

[ludovic p. <pl...@nn...>]

An option to enable/disable the vga state save/restore would be usefull !
(At least with 2.4 kernel ) Could you send a patch ?

Ludovic Pollet


Le jeudi 4 Novembre 2004 12:32, Ander Conselvan de Oliveira a =E9crit :
> I was debugging the X server with two pci sis315pro cards, and I found
> that the computer hangs when the server tries to access the vga memory
> to save the vga state. The problem appears to be that no matter what
> card is being started, the server always tries to save the state of the
> primary vga card. Removing the lines that save and restore the vga stat=
e
> I could init the two servers.
>
> Ander
>
> Observer wrote:
> > I found that some motherboards at incompatible with ruby at some degr=
ee,
> > running 2 xservers using the same driver will hang the system, have a=
ny
> > of you have this problem?
> > I have only some old motherboards where i have get a usable
> > configuration, but i would like to know about some recent working mod=
els
> > so i can change the one i have, any suggestions?
> > I think the problem is part xfree and part the bios, the system cant
> > allocate resources for the cards, when running a "normal" xfree
> > multihead configuration the server resolves any conflict and it works
> > fine but running whit SingleCard or IsolateBus the system hangs when =
the
> > second copy of the same config is loaded and before any log is writte=
n
> > to disk, I have debugged the server but i havent found the exact line
> > where it hangs (I think it hangs after the actual error has happened)=
.
> > I'm attaching the output of dmesg and lspci -v in case someone can he=
lp
> > me out with this.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
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Re: motherboards

[Ander C. de O. <an...@c3...>]

I was debugging the X server with two pci sis315pro cards, and I found 
that the computer hangs when the server tries to access the vga memory 
to save the vga state. The problem appears to be that no matter what 
card is being started, the server always tries to save the state of the 
primary vga card. Removing the lines that save and restore the vga state 
I could init the two servers.

Ander

Observer wrote:
> I found that some motherboards at incompatible with ruby at some degree,
> running 2 xservers using the same driver will hang the system, have any
> of you have this problem?
> I have only some old motherboards where i have get a usable
> configuration, but i would like to know about some recent working models
> so i can change the one i have, any suggestions?
> I think the problem is part xfree and part the bios, the system cant
> allocate resources for the cards, when running a "normal" xfree
> multihead configuration the server resolves any conflict and it works
> fine but running whit SingleCard or IsolateBus the system hangs when the
> second copy of the same config is loaded and before any log is written
> to disk, I have debugged the server but i havent found the exact line
> where it hangs (I think it hangs after the actual error has happened).
> I'm attaching the output of dmesg and lspci -v in case someone can help
> me out with this.
> 
> Thanks.

motherboards

[Observer <obs...@mo...>]

I found that some motherboards at incompatible with ruby at some degree,
running 2 xservers using the same driver will hang the system, have any
of you have this problem?
I have only some old motherboards where i have get a usable
configuration, but i would like to know about some recent working models
so i can change the one i have, any suggestions?
I think the problem is part xfree and part the bios, the system cant
allocate resources for the cards, when running a "normal" xfree
multihead configuration the server resolves any conflict and it works
fine but running whit SingleCard or IsolateBus the system hangs when the
second copy of the same config is loaded and before any log is written
to disk, I have debugged the server but i havent found the exact line
where it hangs (I think it hangs after the actual error has happened).
I'm attaching the output of dmesg and lspci -v in case someone can help
me out with this.

Thanks.