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From: Darry C. <da...@ft...> - 2008-02-25 15:16:36
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Bryan & Lee: Thanks for the help and pointers - I played around with both options Friday, both worked as advertised and I'm on my way. Thanks again for the quick responses. ...Darry Mayes, Lee wrote: > Hi Darry, > > I took at look at what makes up 'Ubuntu Server'. Basically, it's just a minimal Ubuntu install with the 'linux-server' kernel vs. the generic one. Here's what's in isolinux.cfg of an Ubuntu Server iso: > > LABEL install > menu label ^Install to the hard disk > kernel /install/vmlinuz > append file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu-server.seed initrd=/install/initrd.gz quiet -- > > And if we look at that pressed file: > > root@mayeshc:/mnt/cdrom# cat preseed/ubuntu-server.seed > # Always install the server kernel. > d-i base-installer/kernel/override-image string linux-server > # Only install basic language packs. Let tasksel ask about tasks. > d-i pkgsel/language-pack-patterns string > # No language support packages. > d-i pkgsel/install-language-support boolean false > root@mayeshc:/mnt/cdrom# > > So without changing the code, you could create a profile that would install Ubuntu server by selecting no 'flavor' of Ubuntu (which implies base system) then putting those lines in the disk partitioning text box, which I merrily poke into preseed without change. > > I think that should get you a base Ubuntu Server installation. > > Best Regards, > > Lee > > -----Original Message----- > From: lin...@li... [mailto:lin...@li...] On Behalf Of Gartner, Bryan W > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:25 PM > To: Darry Cooley > Cc: lin...@li... > Subject: Re: [Linuxcoe-devel] ubuntu server edition > > Darry, > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 05:55:44PM +0000, Darry Cooley wrote: > >> I'm looking at the admin guide, and thought I'd ask before I started >> hacking up files - how hard is it to incorporate Ubuntu Server Edition >> into LinuxCOE? > > My guess, is it would be fairly easy. > > It could be as simple as (with zero testing, mind you): > > vi <prefix>/data/bundles-Ubuntu-Gutsy > > or make a copy in > > <syconfdir>/data/bundles-Ubuntu-Gutsy > > and add (one or more of the following) > > dns-server > lamp-server > mail-server > minimal > openssh-server > print-server > postgresql-server > samba-server > standard > > Depending on what "Task:" > > from ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz > > that you'd like to have installed ;) > > bryang > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Linuxcoe-devel mailing list > Lin...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxcoe-devel |
From: Mayes, L. <lee...@hp...> - 2008-02-22 21:14:37
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Hi Darry, I took at look at what makes up 'Ubuntu Server'. Basically, it's just a minimal Ubuntu install with the 'linux-server' kernel vs. the generic one. Here's what's in isolinux.cfg of an Ubuntu Server iso: LABEL install menu label ^Install to the hard disk kernel /install/vmlinuz append file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu-server.seed initrd=/install/initrd.gz quiet -- And if we look at that pressed file: root@mayeshc:/mnt/cdrom# cat preseed/ubuntu-server.seed # Always install the server kernel. d-i base-installer/kernel/override-image string linux-server # Only install basic language packs. Let tasksel ask about tasks. d-i pkgsel/language-pack-patterns string # No language support packages. d-i pkgsel/install-language-support boolean false root@mayeshc:/mnt/cdrom# So without changing the code, you could create a profile that would install Ubuntu server by selecting no 'flavor' of Ubuntu (which implies base system) then putting those lines in the disk partitioning text box, which I merrily poke into preseed without change. I think that should get you a base Ubuntu Server installation. Best Regards, Lee -----Original Message----- From: lin...@li... [mailto:lin...@li...] On Behalf Of Gartner, Bryan W Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:25 PM To: Darry Cooley Cc: lin...@li... Subject: Re: [Linuxcoe-devel] ubuntu server edition Darry, On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 05:55:44PM +0000, Darry Cooley wrote: > I'm looking at the admin guide, and thought I'd ask before I started > hacking up files - how hard is it to incorporate Ubuntu Server Edition > into LinuxCOE? My guess, is it would be fairly easy. It could be as simple as (with zero testing, mind you): vi <prefix>/data/bundles-Ubuntu-Gutsy or make a copy in <syconfdir>/data/bundles-Ubuntu-Gutsy and add (one or more of the following) dns-server lamp-server mail-server minimal openssh-server print-server postgresql-server samba-server standard Depending on what "Task:" from ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz that you'd like to have installed ;) bryang ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Linuxcoe-devel mailing list Lin...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxcoe-devel |
From: Bryan G. <Bry...@HP...> - 2008-02-22 18:25:46
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Darry, On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 05:55:44PM +0000, Darry Cooley wrote: > I'm looking at the admin guide, and thought I'd ask before I started > hacking up files - how hard is it to incorporate Ubuntu Server Edition > into LinuxCOE? My guess, is it would be fairly easy. It could be as simple as (with zero testing, mind you): vi <prefix>/data/bundles-Ubuntu-Gutsy or make a copy in <syconfdir>/data/bundles-Ubuntu-Gutsy and add (one or more of the following) dns-server lamp-server mail-server minimal openssh-server print-server postgresql-server samba-server standard Depending on what "Task:" from ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz that you'd like to have installed ;) bryang |
From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2008-02-20 22:40:42
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> > > Wait for results -- the web site is slow enough today for me to > > compose the above several lines in another window. > > Understood. And if the site owner was in our chat session, I'd > ping him to see what's up. BTW, feel free to join IRC at: Not sure what was up. The web host sometimes gets pretty slow. I can't complain - it's a pretty good deal :) > > My next round of questions may very well be about setting up my own > > local repository so that I could use this for Linux InstallFests but > > run at local network and disk speeds rather than using the remote > > network. But first I will browse among the SourceForge discussions. > > Excellent, I often do that as well for demos (even just using my > laptop for smaller groups). I am also schedule to do just such > an InstallFest for Hardy when it releases. Feel free to ask > whatever questions you may have, and I'll try to help, If you need any help getting it set up let me know. At one point I copied the source files of Instalinux to a sub directory and turned on indexing so that folks who wanted to could see how it's structured. Chris |
From: Bryan G. <Bry...@HP...> - 2008-02-20 19:29:45
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Carl, On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 07:08:03PM +0000, Carl Lowenstein wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Bryan Gartner <Bry...@hp...> wrote: > I have tried both with and without setting up a profile. Hmm, okay. > > Ah, ok, so am I correct in assuming that you have setup a profile > > and are trying to create a boot image? If so, it appears as though > > your disk partitioning information is not of the correct format > > (although the provided example is far from being useful). > > > > So can you try one of the following options: > > > > 1) do not use a profile, but rather try thhe "custom" option on step #2, > > then you will get a step #4a, where you will select a scsi disk > > like sda > > It's hard to tell for sure but I think that today I am getting to > places in the interactive GUI stuff where I have never been before. Yes, if you don't use a profile, you get all those same kinds of prompts in the bootimage process flow. Pay up front or pay now approach ;) > > 2) follow the thread in > > > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1804636&group_id=144250&atid=758200 > > > > to modify your profile's disk partitioning section > > Today I do: > > Step 2 Custom > Step 3 select "network waystation" shouldn't this really be called > "software repository"? We long ago adopted the network waystation terminology for all our internal deployments (for many projects), so that was our historical term. We also support local media installs, BTW. > Step 4 select ubuntu-desktop > select partitioning method "multi-user workstation" > Step 4a select IDE0.0 because my Qemu emulator does IDE drives. ditto here > Wait for results -- the web site is slow enough today for me to > compose the above several lines in another window. Understood. And if the site owner was in our chat session, I'd ping him to see what's up. BTW, feel free to join IRC at: irc://irc.freenode.net/#linuxcoe as noted on our project home page. > OK, have downloaded the .ISO image, checked its MD5 sum, and started > up Qemu with that CD image and a blank 8GB hard drive image. It is > past the initial stumble on preseed.cfg and is now going through what > looks like a text-mode Ubuntu/Debian install. That sounds normal then. > But I don't really know what is really different between this and > several other things I tried yesterday and the day before. Heh! > Will have to try to create some controlled failures, following this > single success. FWIW, disk partitioning with preseed is not for the faint of heart and is the single biggest achilles heel in the process, imho. > By the way, do you recycle the 4-digit isoxxxx.iso file names? Yes, those are just process IDs, and your images get autocleaned on a time based schedule. > My next round of questions may very well be about setting up my own > local repository so that I could use this for Linux InstallFests but > run at local network and disk speeds rather than using the remote > network. But first I will browse among the SourceForge discussions. Excellent, I often do that as well for demos (even just using my laptop for smaller groups). I am also schedule to do just such an InstallFest for Hardy when it releases. Feel free to ask whatever questions you may have, and I'll try to help, bryang |
From: Bryan G. <Bry...@HP...> - 2008-02-20 07:03:38
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Carl, On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 03:25:31AM +0000, Carl Lowenstein wrote: > On Feb 19, 2008 6:11 PM, Carl Lowenstein <car...@gm...> wrote: > > On Feb 19, 2008 12:16 PM, Carl Lowenstein <car...@gm...> wrote: > > > We discussed Instalinux at the Score conference in Los Angeles a week > > SCALE :-) > > > > > or so ago. Since then I have had some time to try it. I used the web > > > site <www.instalinux.com> to construct a CDrom for installation of > > > Ubuntu 7.10. Booting the CD either with an emulator or with a real > > > computer leaves me at the error message: > > > > > > Configuring S35initrd-preseed > > > The installer failed to process the preconfiguration file from > > > file:///preseeed.cfg. The file may be corrupt. > > > > > > When I loop-mount the .ISO image and look at it, I find a file > > > "preseed" with no .cfg extension. It contains a set of instructions > > > for performing the installation. Presumably the program that > > > produced the file and the program that uses it have gotten out of > > > sync. > > > > > > I have thought about remastering the .ISO image to change the name of > > > the file, but have not yet gotten around to it. > > > > > > Setting up my own local copy of the Linux COE system is rather more > > > than I really wanted to do, but it might be educational. > > > > Late-breaking news. I just remastered the .ISO image making no > > changes except to rename preseed to preseed.cfg. Didn't help. Boots > > as expected, but still came up with the same error message. > > > > I don't know enough about preseed files to know whether the contents > > of the file are significant here. The name change doesn't seem to do > > anything for me. > > More bad news. I just tried from <www.instalinux.com> creating an > install CD image for Debian Etch. It too has a file named preseed. > It too bombs out with the message "The installer failed to process the > preconfiguration file from file:///[preseed.cfg. The file may be > corrupt." Ah, ok, so am I correct in assuming that you have setup a profile and are trying to create a boot image? If so, it appears as though your disk partitioning information is not of the correct format (although the provided example is far from being useful). So can you try one of the following options: 1) do not use a profile, but rather try thhe "custom" option on step #2, then you will get a step #4a, where you will select a scsi disk like sda 2) follow the thread in http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1804636&group_id=144250&atid=758200 to modify your profile's disk partitioning section > So I don't know who is doing something wrong. If I makes any > difference, I am running this on a Fedora Core 3 system, using Qemu to > boot the .ISO image in an emulated machine. I did try VMWare once > with the Ubuntu image, and got the same error message. As above, we provide a bad example (which I will try to get fixed). > I note that on the Instalinux web site, the configuration file is > referred to as"preseed.txt" while the installer error message refers > to it as "preseed.cfg" and the name as shown in the file system is > "preseed". IIRC, it actually searches for several names, and only the last failed attempt is shown as an error, bryang |
From: Bryan G. <Bry...@HP...> - 2008-02-20 03:58:35
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Carl, On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 02:11:09AM +0000, Carl Lowenstein wrote: > On Feb 19, 2008 12:16 PM, Carl Lowenstein <car...@gm...> wrote: > > We discussed Instalinux at the Score conference in Los Angeles a week > SCALE :-) > > > or so ago. Since then I have had some time to try it. I used the web > > site <www.instalinux.com> to construct a CDrom for installation of > > Ubuntu 7.10. Booting the CD either with an emulator or with a real > > computer leaves me at the error message: Thanks for contacting me, sorry you are having troubles. > > Configuring S35initrd-preseed > > The installer failed to process the preconfiguration file from > > file:///preseeed.cfg. The file may be corrupt. It took me a couple of tries to come close to replicating your issue. Can you verify that during the design process, on step 4a, that you did in fact pick the correct disk type. From what I have seen wrt Ubuntu, is that SATA drives (and even some ATA/IDE) drives are showing up as SCSI (ie. sda) during the installation process. The images I generate seem to work fine on all the VMs I have tried, but I do recall having a similar issue on some laptop installs. > > When I loop-mount the .ISO image and look at it, I find a file > > "preseed" with no .cfg extension. It contains a set of instructions > > for performing the installation. Presumably the program that > > produced the file and the program that uses it have gotten out of > > sync. > > > > I have thought about remastering the .ISO image to change the name of > > the file, but have not yet gotten around to it. > > > > Setting up my own local copy of the Linux COE system is rather more > > than I really wanted to do, but it might be educational. > > Late-breaking news. I just remastered the .ISO image making no > changes except to rename preseed to preseed.cfg. Didn't help. Boots > as expected, but still came up with the same error message. This would match with the above. However, if this doesn't solve your issue, please let me know. I know that the instalinux site is running a bit older version of LinuxCOE, but I can nudge the owner to upgrade as well. > I don't know enough about preseed files to know whether the contents > of the file are significant here. The name change doesn't seem to do > anything for me. And FWIW, you can view the preseed file on the last page, link below the image download. This is the same file that is embedded in the ram disk for use by the installer. bryang PS - I have copied the developer's list as well, in case their collective eyes can see another possible cause. > carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego > clo...@uc... |
From: Bryan G. <Bry...@HP...> - 2008-02-18 02:17:16
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FYI, After a whole bunch of cleanup, test installs and package builds this weekend, I have tagged the repository artifacts for the CVS modules: SystemDesigner \ docs \ SystemDesigner-CentOS \ SystemDesigner-Debian \ SystemDesigner-Fedora \ SystemDesigner-NLD \ SystemDesigner-OpenSUSE \ SystemDesigner-RHEL \ SystemDesigner-Scientific \ SystemDesigner-SLES \ SystemDesigner-SuSE \ SystemDesigner-Ubuntu \ SystemDesigner-VMware with the "RC1_4-1_2008_02_17" tag (eg. ReleaseCandidate1 for version 4.1 as of today) I suggest we all review what is there and by Wednesday, make fixes and/or the decision to tag an official "stable" release. The goal is to make a release, complete with download artifacts on sf.net (at least tarballs, but likely .rpm and .debs for the latest versions of the major distributions we support). bryang |
From: Bryan G. <Bry...@HP...> - 2008-02-13 20:28:45
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Louis, On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 07:58:00PM +0000, Louis Zamora wrote: > Hi Bryan, > > I want to modify LinuxCOE to always create a CD/DVD image and a USB > image. Hmm, interesting idea. > Can you give me some tips on whether I should do so outside LinuxCOE > (take cd/dvd image and modify isolinux to syslinux, etc.. and create usb > image) or within LinuxCOE. See below. And if you can provide more ideas regarding the "why you want to do this", we (have cc'd the larger dev team) may have some more suggestions. > I still need to do more homework on how you differentiate between USB > and CD image build within LinuxCOE but I am curious if you think I am > going down the wrong path modifying LinuxCOE to create both images > simultaneously? Quick tutorial: see <prefix>/images/README on how to create seed images see <prefix>/data/README specifically "images" section to determine how to name the files then <prefix>/cgi-bin/coe_bootimage would need to grok an "all" function, and <prefix>/cgi-bin/nph-* would need to know how to do "all" builds and finally the <prefix>/data/final* would have to be adjusted to present "all" builds That said, it "could" be done. We do have one other mechanim that may be of interest to you as well (and as yet is undocumented, but will be very soon). It's called replay and can generate a boot image based on the breadcrumb files from an already installed system. It is conceivable to generate an ISO file from a USB deployed system and vica-versa. The draft use case can be found here: http://mayeses.com/temp/replay/ Hope this helped, bryang > Louis Zamora > Senior Sales Engineer > lo...@se... > AIM Screen name = louiszamoracan > MSN Screen name = louiszamora > > 1280 Old Alpharetta Rd. > Alpharetta, GA 30005 > Toll Free: 888-843-6916 > Fax: 315-579-1300 > www.senecadata.com > www.nexlink.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Gartner [mailto:Bry...@HP...] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:45 AM > To: Louis Zamora > Subject: Re: need a little advice on linuxcoe > > Louis, > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 02:21:01PM +0000, Louis Zamora wrote: > > Thanks for the encouragement Bryan, > > > > > > I am having a blast. > > Good, and don't hesitate to ask. > > > I am creating a LinuxCOE box to load all RedHat and Debian variants. > > Internally at HP, we have over 100+ combinations of distro/ver/arch > available. > > > The only twist is that my company wants all the distros to load from > > internal mirror (to prevent downtime if internet fails). > > So I am still learning different mirroring merits and debating just > > looping iso images. > > No problem at all, that is exactly what we do, mirroring all those > we use to an internal mirroring infrastructure. As much as possible, > we use rsync to mirror what is publically available. For the > RedHat/SLE* variants, we have historically just "exploded" the ISOs > (via cp -r), but would also recommend spending some time looking at > mrepo > > http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/mrepo > > to do the handling of ISO -> repository + indices. That is how I > do demos/presentations, and also what I suggest for newer installations. > > > I am calling my project "ricOS tacOS - Receive and Transmit OS" a > play > > on my mom being from Mexico. > > Server 1 is LinuxCOE box > > Server 2 is OS Repository Server > > Cute name, and reasonable plan. > > > Any advice you can point my way is greatly appreciated. > > Feel free to ask, > > bryang |
From: Bryan G. <Bry...@HP...> - 2008-01-31 14:37:06
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Bruno, On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 01:59:33PM +0000, Cornec, Bruno (Linux Consultant) wrote: > Bryan Gartner said on Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 06:16:34AM -0700: > > > Just committed the changes to address this issue (I hope, see diff > > below). > > Success :-) > > > Sorry about that, > > No worry you're still competing for the fatest bug fix rate of the whole > Open Source World ;-) Heh, too bad my bug creation rate > bug fix rate ;) > I'' rebuild all the rpms soon, and next week we look at .deb (do you > want gentoo :-) Should have all the .deb stuff in good working order by the end of the week (just finishing up build/test cycles now). And re: gentoo, I will probably defer to your expertise, since I have only used it once (but would like to learn about building "packages" for it). Add that to our todo list, bryang |
From: Bruno C. <Bru...@hp...> - 2008-01-31 13:59:44
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Bryan Gartner said on Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 06:16:34AM -0700: > Just committed the changes to address this issue (I hope, see diff > below). Success :-) > Sorry about that, No worry you're still competing for the fatest bug fix rate of the whole Open Source World ;-) I'' rebuild all the rpms soon, and next week we look at .deb (do you want gentoo :-) Thanks, Bruno. -- Linux Profession Lead EMEA / Open Source Evangelist \ HP C&I EMEA IET http://www.mondorescue.org / HP/Intel Solution Center \ http://hpintelco.net Des infos sur Linux? http://www.HyPer-Linux.org http://www.hp.com/linux La musique ancienne? http://www.musique-ancienne.org http://www.medieval.org |
From: Bryan G. <Bry...@HP...> - 2008-01-31 13:19:28
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Bruno, Just committed the changes to address this issue (I hope, see diff below). A couple of goofs on my part, I moved from NA -> SKIP without updating this script, and the echo was from previous debugging attempts. Sorry about that, bryang On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 06:29:39AM +0000, Cornec, Bruno (Linux Consultant) wrote: > Hello, > > Bruno Cornec said on Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 12:28:16PM +0100: > > > I think I found why my packages didn't work correctly during my recent > > LinuxCOE Lab. It seems that now the scratch_monkey dir isn't created > > when we use --without-APACHE, which isn't correct for the package now. > > Thanks to Bryan and Lee hard work, I now have much more clean rpm. > However, I have a last (for the moment) remaining issue: > > # rpm -Uvh --force > # /home/bruno/LinuxCOE/build/RPMS/noarch/linuxcoe-sd-base-4.1-1.mdv2007.0.noarch.rpm > Pr?paration... ########################################### [100%] > 1:linuxcoe-sd-base ########################################### [100%] > LinuxCOE SystemDesigner integration tasks > creating link : /var/www/linuxcoe-sd/linuxcoe.rc > Apache-specific integration tasks > creating link : /etc/httpd/conf.d/LinuxCOE-SystemDesigner.conf > NOTE : Apache web server should now be restarted > NOTE : for this modified configuration to take effect. > /var/www/linuxcoe-sd/bin/post-actions: line 300: SKIP: command not found > SKIP restart > sudo-specific integration tasks > Reloading httpd: [ OK ] > > So looking at the post-action script generated I found: > > # restart apache, for either install/uninstall cases > test -n "$VERBOSE" && { > echo "NOTE : Apache web server should now be restarted" > echo "NOTE : for this modified configuration to take effect." > } > if test "x${APACHE2CTL}" = "xNA" -o "x${APACHE2CTL}" = "xNONE"; then > if type apache2ctl >/dev/null 2>&1; then > apache2ctl restart > fi > else > ${APACHE2CTL} restart > fi > if test "x${APACHECTL}" = "xNA" -o "x${APACHECTL}" = "xNONE"; then > if type apachectl >/dev/null 2>&1; then > apachectl restart > fi > else > echo ${APACHECTL} restart > fi RCS file: /cvsroot/linuxcoe/SystemDesigner/bin/post-actions.in,v retrieving revision 1.20 diff -r1.20 post-actions.in 295c295 < if test "x${APACHE2CTL}" = "xNA" -o "x${APACHE2CTL}" = "xNONE"; then --- > if test "x${APACHE2CTL}" = "xSKIP" -o "x${APACHE2CTL}" = > "xNONE"; then 302c302 < if test "x${APACHECTL}" = "xNA" -o "x${APACHECTL}" = "xNONE"; then --- > if test "x${APACHECTL}" = "xSKIP" -o "x${APACHECTL}" = > "xNONE"; then 307c307 < echo ${APACHECTL} restart --- > ${APACHECTL} restart > > So I think there is a mismatch between the echo for ${APACHECTL} and > lack of echo for ${APACHE2CTL} which seems to cause the error message. > However, I don't know why we would want to echo SKIP restart ;-) The SKIP value comes from the --without-APACHECTL, fwiw. bryang |
From: Bruno C. <Bru...@hp...> - 2008-01-31 06:37:57
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Bruno Cornec said on Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 07:29:39AM +0100: > if test "x${APACHE2CTL}" = "xNA" -o "x${APACHE2CTL}" = "xNONE"; then I think a test on SKIP is missing here as well. Am I right on the money ? Bruno. -- Linux Profession Lead EMEA / Open Source Evangelist \ HP C&I EMEA IET http://www.mondorescue.org / HP/Intel Solution Center \ http://hpintelco.net Des infos sur Linux? http://www.HyPer-Linux.org http://www.hp.com/linux La musique ancienne? http://www.musique-ancienne.org http://www.medieval.org |
From: Bruno C. <Bru...@hp...> - 2008-01-31 06:31:25
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Hello, Bruno Cornec said on Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 12:28:16PM +0100: > I think I found why my packages didn't work correctly during my recent > LinuxCOE Lab. It seems that now the scratch_monkey dir isn't created > when we use --without-APACHE, which isn't correct for the package now. Thanks to Bryan and Lee hard work, I now have much more clean rpm. However, I have a last (for the moment) remaining issue: # rpm -Uvh --force # /home/bruno/LinuxCOE/build/RPMS/noarch/linuxcoe-sd-base-4.1-1.mdv2007.0.noarch.rpm Préparation... ########################################### [100%] 1:linuxcoe-sd-base ########################################### [100%] LinuxCOE SystemDesigner integration tasks creating link : /var/www/linuxcoe-sd/linuxcoe.rc Apache-specific integration tasks creating link : /etc/httpd/conf.d/LinuxCOE-SystemDesigner.conf NOTE : Apache web server should now be restarted NOTE : for this modified configuration to take effect. /var/www/linuxcoe-sd/bin/post-actions: line 300: SKIP: command not found SKIP restart sudo-specific integration tasks Reloading httpd: [ OK ] So looking at the post-action script generated I found: # restart apache, for either install/uninstall cases test -n "$VERBOSE" && { echo "NOTE : Apache web server should now be restarted" echo "NOTE : for this modified configuration to take effect." } if test "x${APACHE2CTL}" = "xNA" -o "x${APACHE2CTL}" = "xNONE"; then if type apache2ctl >/dev/null 2>&1; then apache2ctl restart fi else ${APACHE2CTL} restart fi if test "x${APACHECTL}" = "xNA" -o "x${APACHECTL}" = "xNONE"; then if type apachectl >/dev/null 2>&1; then apachectl restart fi else echo ${APACHECTL} restart fi So I think there is a mismatch between the echo for ${APACHECTL} and lack of echo for ${APACHE2CTL} which seems to cause the error message. However, I don't know why we would want to echo SKIP restart ;-) So close ... !! Bruno. -- Linux Profession Lead EMEA / Open Source Evangelist \ HP C&I EMEA IET http://www.mondorescue.org / HP/Intel Solution Center \ http://hpintelco.net Des infos sur Linux? http://www.HyPer-Linux.org http://www.hp.com/linux La musique ancienne? http://www.musique-ancienne.org http://www.medieval.org |
From: Bruno C. <Bru...@hp...> - 2008-01-23 10:58:55
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Louis Bouchard said on Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 03:46:27PM +0100: > For example, you select all the options as we do in the current System > Designer, and then you say that you want this O/S instance installed > into a KVM disk image. I'm doing that right now, but just using LinuxCOE the way it is, downloading the ISO image generated and providing it as an input to my Project-Builder tool, using the newvm option. Details: http://trac.project-builder.org/wiki/NetPerfExample (Look for newvm) > Major restrictions I can see with this : > - Needs a powerful server to build all these VM I do that on a Dual Core2Duo server with 2 GB of RAM. No pb. > - Needs a lot of diskspace to host VM container even temporarily Indeed: du -sh /users/qemu/ 118G /users/qemu/ > - Sensible amount of work required to build the back-end process No !! > - Best design of this one would require to isolate it from VM > technologies (i.e. use of libvirt or something similar) No again. IMO, the best approcah is to use the external commands provided by each tool to handle the VMs. For the moment, I work with QEMU/KVM so that's what is supported, but placeholders exist to add support for other techno (Xen, VMW* if they provide the right tools, I'm less concerned by non Open SOurce solutions myself) > Does this make any sense ? A lot :-) Bruno. --=20 Linux Profession Lead EMEA / Open Source Evangelist \ HP C&I EMEA I= ET http://www.mondorescue.org / HP/Intel Solution Center \ http://hpintelco.n= et Des infos sur Linux? http://www.HyPer-Linux.org http://www.hp.com/lin= ux La musique ancienne? http://www.musique-ancienne.org http://www.medieval.o= rg |
From: Chris S. <ch...@in...> - 2008-01-22 21:34:50
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Louis, Sounds cool to me too. Let me know if you can make use of any of the resources at Instalinux. I have lot's of disk space and a fair bit of bandwidth... Chris On Jan 22, 2008 7:35 AM, Bryan Gartner <Bry...@hp...> wrote: > Louis, > > I think this is a great idea, and I'd love to see a new > backend script to generate such an "image/VM container" > and I totally agree with the "libvirt" or equivalent suggestion > so that it could be molded to the virtualization technology > desired. > > bryang > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 02:46:27PM +0000, Bouchard, Louis wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Here is something that I briefly discussed with Bryang and I thought I'd > > bounce it off all of you. > > > > Everyone here is familiar with LinuxCOE main functionality, which is to > > provide a small .iso image allowing a server to boot off this media and > > to auto-install according to instructions coming from the System > > Designer web interface. > > > > Now, while keeping the same functionality, let's imagine for a minute > > that another functionality of SysDes is to provide instructions to a > > back-end process that is in charge of doing the actual installation into > > a Virtual Machine container (either Xen, KVM, maybe VMware). > > > > For example, you select all the options as we do in the current System > > Designer, and then you say that you want this O/S instance installed > > into a KVM disk image. > > > > LinuxCOE V5 goes off, provide this information to the back-end process > > which creates the KVM disk container and kickstart the installation into > > the VM using the LinuxCOE provided install boot image (the one we > > currently provide). Once the installation is complete, this back-end > > process deletes the install boot image and the resulting KVM disk > > container is what is provided to the user on some FTP server. > > > > I had this idea yesterday and didn't have much time to think it over. > > But after all, this is what FOSS collaboration is all about, right ? Not > > doing everything by ourselves ? > > > > Major restrictions I can see with this : > > - Needs a powerful server to build all these VM > > - Needs a lot of diskspace to host VM container even temporarily > > - Sensible amount of work required to build the back-end process > > - Best design of this one would require to isolate it from VM > > technologies (i.e. use of libvirt or something similar) > > > > In the end, one would come to System Designer V5, select its O/S and > > options, and some cycles later, get is VM container, ready to be run. > > Better yet, this could be an add-on to existing LinuxCOE V5 that would > > continue offering the provisioning infrastructure as we know it now. > > > > Does this make any sense ? > > > > Regards, > > -- > > Louis Bouchard, Linux Support Engineer > > EMEA Linux Competency Center, > > Linux Ambassador, HP > > > > HP Services 1 Ave du Canada > > HP France Z.A. de Courtaboeuf > > lou...@hp... 91 947 Les Ulis > > http://www.hp.com/go/linux France > > http://www.hp.com/fr > > > Content-Description: ATT00001.txt > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > Content-Description: ATT00002.txt > > _______________________________________________ > > Linuxcoe-devel mailing list > > Lin...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxcoe-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Linuxcoe-devel mailing list > Lin...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxcoe-devel > |
From: Bryan G. <Bry...@HP...> - 2008-01-22 15:38:32
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Louis, I think this is a great idea, and I'd love to see a new backend script to generate such an "image/VM container" and I totally agree with the "libvirt" or equivalent suggestion so that it could be molded to the virtualization technology desired. bryang On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 02:46:27PM +0000, Bouchard, Louis wrote: > Hello, > > Here is something that I briefly discussed with Bryang and I thought I'd > bounce it off all of you. > > Everyone here is familiar with LinuxCOE main functionality, which is to > provide a small .iso image allowing a server to boot off this media and > to auto-install according to instructions coming from the System > Designer web interface. > > Now, while keeping the same functionality, let's imagine for a minute > that another functionality of SysDes is to provide instructions to a > back-end process that is in charge of doing the actual installation into > a Virtual Machine container (either Xen, KVM, maybe VMware). > > For example, you select all the options as we do in the current System > Designer, and then you say that you want this O/S instance installed > into a KVM disk image. > > LinuxCOE V5 goes off, provide this information to the back-end process > which creates the KVM disk container and kickstart the installation into > the VM using the LinuxCOE provided install boot image (the one we > currently provide). Once the installation is complete, this back-end > process deletes the install boot image and the resulting KVM disk > container is what is provided to the user on some FTP server. > > I had this idea yesterday and didn't have much time to think it over. > But after all, this is what FOSS collaboration is all about, right ? Not > doing everything by ourselves ? > > Major restrictions I can see with this : > - Needs a powerful server to build all these VM > - Needs a lot of diskspace to host VM container even temporarily > - Sensible amount of work required to build the back-end process > - Best design of this one would require to isolate it from VM > technologies (i.e. use of libvirt or something similar) > > In the end, one would come to System Designer V5, select its O/S and > options, and some cycles later, get is VM container, ready to be run. > Better yet, this could be an add-on to existing LinuxCOE V5 that would > continue offering the provisioning infrastructure as we know it now. > > Does this make any sense ? > > Regards, > -- > Louis Bouchard, Linux Support Engineer > EMEA Linux Competency Center, > Linux Ambassador, HP > > HP Services 1 Ave du Canada > HP France Z.A. de Courtaboeuf > lou...@hp... 91 947 Les Ulis > http://www.hp.com/go/linux France > http://www.hp.com/fr Content-Description: ATT00001.txt > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ Content-Description: ATT00002.txt > _______________________________________________ > Linuxcoe-devel mailing list > Lin...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxcoe-devel |
From: Louis B. <lou...@hp...> - 2008-01-22 14:46:41
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Hello, Here is something that I briefly discussed with Bryang and I thought I'd bounce it off all of you. Everyone here is familiar with LinuxCOE main functionality, which is to provide a small .iso image allowing a server to boot off this media and to auto-install according to instructions coming from the System Designer web interface. Now, while keeping the same functionality, let's imagine for a minute that another functionality of SysDes is to provide instructions to a back-end process that is in charge of doing the actual installation into a Virtual Machine container (either Xen, KVM, maybe VMware). For example, you select all the options as we do in the current System Designer, and then you say that you want this O/S instance installed into a KVM disk image. LinuxCOE V5 goes off, provide this information to the back-end process which creates the KVM disk container and kickstart the installation into the VM using the LinuxCOE provided install boot image (the one we currently provide). Once the installation is complete, this back-end process deletes the install boot image and the resulting KVM disk container is what is provided to the user on some FTP server. I had this idea yesterday and didn't have much time to think it over. But after all, this is what FOSS collaboration is all about, right ? Not doing everything by ourselves ? Major restrictions I can see with this : - Needs a powerful server to build all these VM - Needs a lot of diskspace to host VM container even temporarily - Sensible amount of work required to build the back-end process - Best design of this one would require to isolate it from VM technologies (i.e. use of libvirt or something similar) In the end, one would come to System Designer V5, select its O/S and options, and some cycles later, get is VM container, ready to be run. Better yet, this could be an add-on to existing LinuxCOE V5 that would continue offering the provisioning infrastructure as we know it now. Does this make any sense ? Regards, --=20 Louis Bouchard, Linux Support Engineer EMEA Linux Competency Center, Linux Ambassador, HP HP Services 1 Ave du Canada HP France Z.A. de Courtaboeuf lou...@hp... 91 947 Les Ulis http://www.hp.com/go/linux France http://www.hp.com/fr |
From: Bruno C. <Bru...@hp...> - 2007-12-21 11:30:02
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Hello, I think I found why my packages didn't work correctly during my recent LinuxCOE Lab. It seems that now the scratch_monkey dir isn't created when we use --without-APACHE, which isn't correct for the package now. 2 solutions, either I add a mkdir in my .spec, or we adapt again the post-action.in to create the directories anyway. Let me know which one you prefer ? And merry Christmas for everybody here, Bruno. -- Linux Profession Lead EMEA / Open Source Evangelist \ HP C&I EMEA IET http://www.mondorescue.org / HP/Intel Solution Center \ http://hpintelco.net Des infos sur Linux? http://www.HyPer-Linux.org http://www.hp.com/linux La musique ancienne? http://www.musique-ancienne.org http://www.medieval.org |
From: Bryan G. <Bry...@HP...> - 2007-11-21 16:45:33
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Bruno > > > But still no log file :-( > > > [root@localhost images]# find / -name sysdes.log > > > > Hmm. > > Yeah. That's bad ! Ultimately the issue was that SELinux was enabled (and in enforcing mode), so the user running the webserver didn't have the rights to create/write the log file. Guess it's time to get serious about making a valid config, bryang |
From: Bruno C. <Bru...@hp...> - 2007-11-21 15:15:13
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Bryan Gartner said on Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 07:46:12AM -0700: > > export PERLMOD=@PERLMOD@ > > I have fixed this (basically forgot to have configure publish this > value). Thanks ! > > export APACHECTL=SKIP, > > I have fixed the errant comma. Thanks ! > > export SUDO=SKIP > > > > Shouldn't those SKIP be replaced by what is also in binaries.pm ? > > As in previous message, nope (it's meant to capture what we were > told to do). Sorry, I was trying to understand but didn't thought enough before typing :-( It's now clearer (still earning a lot !) > > The diff with the working machine gives (< works, > doesn't) > > > > 13c13 > > < export localstatedir=/var/lib > > --- > > > export localstatedir=/var > > Since you use: > > --localstatedir=%{_localstatedir} > > is it possible that the differing build platform's rpm is doing > this to you? Yes, that's true. on RHEL4 it's /var, on MDV it's /var/lib, so it *seems* correct. I just was looking for a side effect somewhere, as nothing obvious pops up :-) > > So I created the following: > > # ln -s /var/log/linuxcoe-sd /var/lib/logs > > > > But still no log file :-( > > [root@localhost images]# find / -name sysdes.log > > Hmm. Yeah. That's bad ! > but with your config above (my guesses would be): > > /var/logs -> /var/log/linuxcoe-sd > /var/profiles -> /var/lib/linuxcoe-sd/profiles So true: [root@localhost images]# ls -al /var/logs lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Aug 28 11:41 /var/logs -> /var/log/linuxcoe-sd [root@localhost images]# ls -al /var/profiles lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Aug 28 11:41 /var/profiles -> /var/lib/linuxcoe-sd/profiles Bruno. -- Linux Profession Lead EMEA / Open Source Evangelist \ HP C&I EMEA IET http://www.mondorescue.org / HP/Intel Solution Center \ http://hpintelco.net Des infos sur Linux? http://www.HyPer-Linux.org http://www.hp.com/linux La musique ancienne? http://www.musique-ancienne.org http://www.medieval.org |