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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-12-23 17:00:30
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Hi ! I'm using 2.4.18 kernel and I experience a few problems with it. It's quite stable but try to install xserver 4.x.x and you will start running through the minefields :) I've lost one ext2 partition and two reiserfs because of xserver 4.1.0 running on 2.4.18. I found out that this version causes data corruption while writing to harddisk. Xserver 4.2.1 is a bit better it doesn't cause data coruuption while writing to "/" partition, but sometimes it trashes swap partition (what randomly crashes programs) and after a xserver's restart every(!) program ends with "segmentation fault" error. Can it be A1200 specific problem, what with A4000 users ? Has anyone experienced that problem ? Regards Krystian Baclawski ***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a************** Masz dosc placenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - zaloz konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank |
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From: Ken T. <ke...@we...> - 2002-12-24 00:36:33
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: > Can it be A1200 specific problem, what with A4000 users ? > Has anyone experienced that problem ? I run 2.4.18 (not updated to the most recent cvs version yet) and=20 XFree86 Version 4.1.99.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) Release Date: xx September 2001 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.9 ppc [ELF] on A4000 and it is very stable, can't recall a single crash and certainly no damaged disks. Ken. |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-12-24 08:40:54
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Ken Tyler wrote: > On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: >=20 > > Can it be A1200 specific problem, what with A4000 users ? > > Has anyone experienced that problem ? >=20 > I run 2.4.18 (not updated to the most recent cvs version yet) and=20 > > XFree86 Version 4.1.99.1 / X Window System > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) > Release Date: xx September 2001 > Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.9 ppc [ELF] >=20 > on A4000 and it is very stable, can't recall a single crash and certainly > no damaged disks. Yesterday I also noticed that 4.2.1 trashes my root partition :( If you're using A4000 you most probably use scsi drivers for harddisk. Does it mean that we have only partial solution for A1200 ide problem ? Can you copy your partition to ide disk and check whether then it is stable ? Regards Krystian Baclawski =0D=0A=0D=0A***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a**************=0D=0A=0D=0AMasz do=B6=E6 p=B3acenia prowizji bankowi ?=0D=0AmBank - za=B3=F3=BF konto=0D=0Ahttp://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank |
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From: Ken T. <ke...@we...> - 2002-12-24 20:09:35
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: > Yesterday I also noticed that 4.2.1 trashes my root partition :( If you'r= e > using A4000 you most probably use scsi drivers for harddisk. Does it mean > that we have only partial solution for A1200 ide problem ? Can you copy > your partition to ide disk and check whether then it is stable ? Hello, No, I'm running on partitions on an IDE disk, my A4091 SCSI card doesn't work reliably. Ken. =20 |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-12-24 20:45:55
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Ken Tyler wrote: > On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: >=20 > > Yesterday I also noticed that 4.2.1 trashes my root partition :( If you= 're > > using A4000 you most probably use scsi drivers for harddisk. Does it me= an > > that we have only partial solution for A1200 ide problem ? Can you copy > > your partition to ide disk and check whether then it is stable ? >=20 > Hello, >=20 > No, I'm running on partitions on an IDE disk, my A4091 SCSI card doesn't > work reliably. What kernel version are you using ? In one of posts Giorgio (user of A4000) wrote: =2E.. after a migration of my Linux partition from IDE to SCSI disks, a strange bug seems disappeared. Sometimes, when connected to Internet and using X, something hanged the X task or the whole machine. Now seems solved...=20 The same problem had "schneider". My machine connects to internet during debian startup, but X are more than unstable, they hang machine and trashes disks. I wonder whether apus is so unstable or maybe my machine has faulty hardware. Regards Krystian Baclawski =0D=0A=0D=0A***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a**************=0D=0A=0D=0AMasz do=B6=E6 p=B3acenia prowizji bankowi ?=0D=0AmBank - za=B3=F3=BF konto=0D=0Ahttp://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank |
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From: Fred H. <hei...@am...> - 2002-12-25 00:35:41
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, [iso-8859-2] Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: > On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Ken Tyler wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: > > > > I wonder whether apus is so unstable or maybe my machine has faulty > hardware. I think there is some problem in the APUS kernel, servicing interrupts maybe, that has never been solved. It does not evidenty show up except with certain hardware combinations; like mine I'm afraid. :) I haven't tryed APUS in awhile but I always had trouble with freezes and lockups expecially after pushing any kind of sustained disk activity. When I installed NETBSD I never noticed such problems. Of course at the time there was no PPC port done. (OT) That reminds me. I need to check to see if the NETBSD folks ever got the PowerUP port done. Fred |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-12-25 08:43:38
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Fred Heitkamp wrote: > On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, [iso-8859-2] Krystian > Bac=B3awski wrote: >=20 > > On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Ken Tyler wrote: > > > On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: > > > > > > > I wonder whether apus is so unstable or maybe my machine has faulty > > hardware. >=20 > I think there is some problem in the APUS kernel, servicing > interrupts maybe, that has never been solved. It does not > evidenty show up except with certain hardware combinations; > like mine I'm afraid. :) >=20 > I haven't tryed APUS in awhile but I always had trouble with > freezes and lockups expecially after pushing any kind of > sustained disk activity. When I installed NETBSD I never > noticed such problems. Of course at the time there was no > PPC port done. > (OT) That reminds me. I need to check to see if the NETBSD folks > ever got the PowerUP port done. Do you know how to obtain documentation about ppc boards ? Did phase5 released hardware information about blizzard/cyberstorm-ppc ? I know there is ppclib-dev file to fetch, but there's no info about registers layout mentioned in asm-ppc/amigappc.h. Regards Krystian Baclawski =0D=0A=0D=0A***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a**************=0D=0A=0D=0AMasz do=B6=E6 p=B3acenia prowizji bankowi ?=0D=0AmBank - za=B3=F3=BF konto=0D=0Ahttp://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank |
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From: Ken T. <ke...@we...> - 2002-12-26 18:09:12
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Hello Fred, On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Fred Heitkamp wrote in his first post for a long time: > I think there is some problem in the APUS kernel, servicing > interrupts maybe, that has never been solved. It does not > evidenty show up except with certain hardware combinations; > like mine I'm afraid. :) I suspect the same, possibly in the very early setup head.S. IIRC ther is a comment in there about all amiga interrupts being lumped into one ppc interrupt and serviced in turn. I've wondered if there is a lock out condition hidden in there somewhere. My ppc assembler knowledege is zero so I can't look further. Ken. |
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From: Ken T. <ke...@we...> - 2002-12-26 17:58:25
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: > What kernel version are you using ? In one of posts Giorgio (user of > A4000) wrote: I run 2.4.18, but I have not updated to the most recent commit from Roman, the one about 10 days ago. Compiled with gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release/franzo). The only problem I've had recently is with the UW SCISI driver, when I compiled that in ant tried it a) it wasn't reliable, b) I got some odd internet 'pauses' even when I didn't have a drive connected. I find it a bit strange that both SCSI drivers I've attempted to use (A4091 and UW PPC) crash after some period of use. I've always had a nagging doubt that there is something wrong a) with my hardware or b) linux interrupts or c) SCSI sub system and A4000 Ken. |
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From: Michel <mi...@da...> - 2002-12-27 18:05:07
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On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 20:06, Krystian Bacławski wrote: > > I'm using 2.4.18 kernel and I experience a few problems with it. It's > quite stable but try to install xserver 4.x.x and you will start running > through the minefields :) I've lost one ext2 partition and two reiserfs > because of xserver 4.1.0 running on 2.4.18. I found out that this version > causes data corruption while writing to harddisk. Xserver 4.2.1 is a bit > better it doesn't cause data coruuption while writing to "/" partition, > but sometimes it trashes swap partition (what randomly crashes programs) > and after a xserver's restart every(!) program ends with "segmentation > fault" error. The X server can't really do that, sounds rather like a kernel or hardware problem. Besides, I wouldn't recommend ReiserFS, not even on i386. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-12-27 19:36:15
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> On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 20:06, Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote:=20 > >=20 > > I'm using 2.4.18 kernel and I experience a few problems with it. It's > > quite stable but try to install xserver 4.x.x and you will start runnin= g > > through the minefields :) I've lost one ext2 partition and two reiserfs > > because of xserver 4.1.0 running on 2.4.18. I found out that this versi= on > > causes data corruption while writing to harddisk. Xserver 4.2.1 is a bi= t > > better it doesn't cause data coruuption while writing to "/" partition, > > but sometimes it trashes swap partition (what randomly crashes programs= ) > > and after a xserver's restart every(!) program ends with "segmentation > > fault" error. >=20 > The X server can't really do that, sounds rather like a kernel or > hardware problem. Yes, I thought that, but with 2.2.10 everything was ok... So it's not a hardware problem. Besides when I don't use X, my partition is clean. I think it's interrupts problem as many people suggest. I've no such a problem when I used 2.2.10, and also other problems I mentioned in messages I sent this week. Too many people using APUS think that their hardware is faulty... > Besides, I wouldn't recommend ReiserFS, not even on i386. It's not reiserfs specific problem, remember I've also lost ext2 partition (and then my kernel didn't have reiserfs support compiled in). Regards Krystian Baclawski =0D=0A=0D=0A***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a**************=0D=0A=0D=0AMasz do=B6=E6 p=B3acenia prowizji bankowi ?=0D=0AmBank - za=B3=F3=BF konto=0D=0Ahttp://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank |
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From: Michel <mi...@da...> - 2002-12-27 21:33:02
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On Fre, 2002-12-27 at 22:44, Krystian Bacławski wrote: > > On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 20:06, Krystian Bacławski wrote: > > > > > > I'm using 2.4.18 kernel and I experience a few problems with it. It's > > > quite stable but try to install xserver 4.x.x and you will start running > > > through the minefields :) I've lost one ext2 partition and two reiserfs > > > because of xserver 4.1.0 running on 2.4.18. I found out that this version > > > causes data corruption while writing to harddisk. Xserver 4.2.1 is a bit > > > better it doesn't cause data coruuption while writing to "/" partition, > > > but sometimes it trashes swap partition (what randomly crashes programs) > > > and after a xserver's restart every(!) program ends with "segmentation > > > fault" error. > > > > The X server can't really do that, sounds rather like a kernel or > > hardware problem. > > Yes, I thought that, but with 2.2.10 everything was ok... Probably a kernel problem then. > > Besides, I wouldn't recommend ReiserFS, not even on i386. > > It's not reiserfs specific problem, remember I've also lost ext2 > partition (and then my kernel didn't have reiserfs support compiled in). Sure, ext2 has a smaller chance than any journalling filesystem to survive a crash, but at least it's usually reliable in normal operation, whereas ReiserFS lost all data on one of my filesystems from one second to another. Fortunately, it contained no valuable data, but I considered that a warning and managed to convert my important filesystems to XFS in time. No serious problems since then, even with lots of crashes. Just FYI... -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast |
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