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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-07-08 10:22:30
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Hi! I found oops in driver/rtc that hangs apus whenever I try to run command cat /proc/rtc. I also get it when I enable /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh script in woody 3.0. I tried to find it and I deduced that it must be CMOS_READ and CMOS_WRITE macros. Is rtc totally broken in 2.2.10 ??? I downloaded kernel from cvs branch 2.2. BTW. When development of 2.2.x kernel line for amiga stopped ? Regards Krystian Baclawski |
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From: Michel <mi...@da...> - 2002-07-08 11:01:03
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On Mon, 2002-07-08 at 12:34, Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: >=20 > I found oops in driver/rtc that hangs apus whenever I try to run command > cat /proc/rtc. I also get it when I enable /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh script > in woody 3.0. I tried to find it and I deduced that it must be CMOS_READ > and CMOS_WRITE macros. Is rtc totally broken in 2.2.10 ??? I downloaded > kernel from cvs branch 2.2. At least one or two years ago... I assume you're looking at 2.2 because you have problems with 2.4; I advise you to work on those problems instead of wasting time with 2.2. --=20 Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-07-08 11:33:04
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Hi! > At least one or two years ago... I assume you're looking at 2.2 because > you have problems with 2.4; I advise you to work on those problems > instead of wasting time with 2.2. Yes I think you're right. But there is a big problem, I cannot even start linux with kernel 2.4 on my amiga. It hangs up after ide setup, and I have no idea why because some people reported it to work on a simple gayle without a problem (of course there are other people that cannot make it working - exactly like me). The other problem is that I'm beginner I don't know kernel much. I've just started going deeper than "make menuconfig" and if I didn't have Fastata that is unsupported, I would never try going deeper (despite of being Computer Science student). I hope to find someone more experienced who would give me basic knowledge of linux-apus kernel. Regards Krystian Baclawski |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2002-07-09 08:43:08
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hi, > Yes I think you're right. But there is a big problem, I cannot even start > linux with kernel 2.4 on my amiga. It hangs up after ide setup, and I have 2.4.13 works. anything after doesnt? yes, this has got me too :-( last_ipl[] -2 2 3 -3 2 2 2 2 -3 3 etc etc is the last two lines you see before nothing else? yes, same problem some people dont have this issue (I'd like to know detailed desciption of what hardware and PPC firmware they are using). others say it carries on booting after waiting 20 seconds.... it doesnt here... it doesnt boot after waiting 10 minutes or more :-| Alan |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-07-09 11:05:42
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> > Yes I think you're right. But there is a big problem, I cannot even start > > linux with kernel 2.4 on my amiga. It hangs up after ide setup, and I have > > 2.4.13 works. anything after doesnt? yes, this has got me too :-( > > last_ipl[] -2 2 3 -3 2 2 2 2 -3 3 > > etc etc is the last two lines you see before nothing else? yes, same problem Yep, exactly. I found lines that produce it in arch/ppc/setup.c or apus_setup.c. But I don't know much about kernel organisation. Ush. I'll have to read a little about it. > some people dont have this issue (I'd like to know detailed desciption > of what hardware and PPC firmware they are using). others say it > carries on booting after waiting 20 seconds.... it doesnt here... it doesnt > boot after waiting 10 minutes or more :-| Maybe we should make a poll and ask apus user that use gayle/fastata, who suffer from this problem. I propose to ask user: * what turbocard do they have (blizzardppc/cyberstormppc) * what version of mainboard do they have (me A1200 rev.2B) * what version of kernel they tried to make working * whether kernel starts, waits for about 10-20 seconds, or doesn't work completely * ... Maybe it's hardware specific problem... As far as I know there is possibility to make poll on linux-apus.sf.net page. Who is an administrator for this web page ??? Regards Krystian Baclawski |
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From: Michel <mi...@da...> - 2002-07-10 19:35:35
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On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 13:17, Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote:=20 > > > Yes I think you're right. But there is a big problem, I cannot even s= tart > > > linux with kernel 2.4 on my amiga. It hangs up after ide setup, and I= have > >=20 > > 2.4.13 works. anything after doesnt? yes, this has got me too :-( > >=20 > > last_ipl[] -2 2 3 -3 2 2 2 2 -3 3 > >=20 > > etc etc is the last two lines you see before nothing else? yes, same p= roblem >=20 > Yep, exactly. I found lines that produce it in arch/ppc/setup.c or > apus_setup.c. But I don't know much about kernel organisation. Ush. I'll > have to read a little about it. I think Roman added this output to aid debugging. > > some people dont have this issue (I'd like to know detailed desciption > > of what hardware and PPC firmware they are using). others say it > > carries on booting after waiting 20 seconds.... it doesnt here... it do= esnt > > boot after waiting 10 minutes or more :-| >=20 > Maybe we should make a poll and ask apus user that use gayle/fastata, > who suffer from this problem. I propose to ask user: >=20 > * what turbocard do they have (blizzardppc/cyberstormppc) > * what version of mainboard do they have (me A1200 rev.2B) > * what version of kernel they tried to make working > * whether kernel starts, waits for about 10-20 seconds, or doesn't work > completely > * ... >=20 > Maybe it's hardware specific problem... >=20 > As far as I know there is possibility to make poll on linux-apus.sf.net > page. Who is an administrator for this web page ??? Me, Alan and a couple others I think. Alan, do you want to do this? IIRC you talked about making polls a long time ago... --=20 Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast |
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From: Rene B. <re...@we...> - 2002-07-10 21:07:05
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On 2002.07.10 21:30 Michel D=E4nzer wrote: > > As far as I know there is possibility to make poll on linux-apus.sf.n= et > > page. Who is an administrator for this web page ??? >=20 > Me, Alan and a couple others I think. Alan, do you want to do this? IIR= C > you talked about making polls a long time ago... >=20 Hello! As I see, linux-apus.sf.net runs on PHP. I know some PHP programming, so=20 maybe I can help a lot? Ciao Rene |
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From: Michel <mi...@da...> - 2002-07-10 21:26:20
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On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 23:06, Rene Brothuhn wrote: > On 2002.07.10 21:30 Michel D=E4nzer wrote: > > > As far as I know there is possibility to make poll on linux-apus.sf.n= et > > > page. Who is an administrator for this web page ??? > >=20 > > Me, Alan and a couple others I think. Alan, do you want to do this? IIR= C > > you talked about making polls a long time ago... > >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hello! >=20 > As I see, linux-apus.sf.net runs on PHP. I know some PHP programming, so=20 > maybe I can help a lot? The sourceforge software already has polls built in, we just need to set them up. If nobody with the necessary rights wants to do it, I can give you those rights. --=20 Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast |
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From: Andreas <an...@po...> - 2002-07-10 23:19:56
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Hi > On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 23:06, Rene Brothuhn wrote: >> On 2002.07.10 21:30 Michel D=E4nzer wrote: >>>> As far as I know there is possibility to make poll on linux-apus.sf.= net >>>> page. Who is an administrator for this web page ??? >>>=20 >>> Me, Alan and a couple others I think. Alan, do you want to do this? I= IRC >>> you talked about making polls a long time ago... >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Hello! >>=20 >> As I see, linux-apus.sf.net runs on PHP. I know some PHP programming, = so=20 >> maybe I can help a lot? >=20 > The sourceforge software already has polls built in, we just need to se= t > them up. If nobody with the necessary rights wants to do it, I can give > you those rights. Hmm, I don't want to be subversive, it is all nice and ok to set up a pol= l, but I wonder how much it would actually report about the current situtati= on. First, I don't know how much folks is lurking around at apus at sourcefor= ge, or are just waiting (like me) for the nice automatically generated mail b= y sourceforge which says "Project "Linux/APUS Kernel" ('linux-apus') has re= leased the new version of package '2.4 Kernel'. You can download it.." Second, the poll options have to be chosen very carefully. Because, does = it have any use if we know, well 40 users have problems with booting and are frozen after the ipl's, and 45 users have problems using the glint driver= (to also tackle this problems [yes, I am also hit by this bug]) . It may be more useful if we would know about their hardware config, and what exactly they are doing. So it should be something like: "Please do this p= oll, but, IF you are experience problems DO ALSO report them including your ex= act systems configuration to linuxapus-dev.." Or maybe a poll with some options like: - "ide freezes on A1200" - "ide freezes on A4000" And at best something where you could chose multiple options, so you coul= d supplement the information given above with, e.g.: - "freezes on bootup" - "freezes by chance" - "just spits out messages accidentally but doesn't freeze" Or also a feedback form resembling to the bug report form, but with the machine options and some other thing hardcoded into listviews or somethin= g similar, which automatically sends the reports to linuapus-dev. And, at last, we also need people capable of solving the problems. The current situation seems to be that people who experience the very hard problems have no idea about fixing them, and the people who could fi= x them don't experience them and can't do anything with only the informatio= n from mails. To shortly summarize: glint troubles only seem to happen on A4000 machine= s, the ide probs mostly on A1200 (altough this may be because there are a lo= t more A1200's out there). --=20 Best wishes, Andi |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-07-11 21:47:04
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Hi !
> Hmm, I don't want to be subversive, it is all nice and ok to set up a poll,
> but I wonder how much it would actually report about the current situtation.
> First, I don't know how much folks is lurking around at apus at sourceforge,
> or are just waiting (like me) for the nice automatically generated mail by
> sourceforge which says "Project "Linux/APUS Kernel" ('linux-apus') has released
> the new version of package '2.4 Kernel'. You can download it.."
Yes, I understand you. There're two ways for users, the first one : let
linux-apus die from lack of programmers/users developing it, or somehow
help apus community. I'm from the first group, I hope there are also other
people that would do something for apus. I also realize that my words
sound hmm... as if I were an idealist, but what would have been linux
without people willing to develop it...
> Second, the poll options have to be chosen very carefully. Because, does it
> have any use if we know, well 40 users have problems with booting and are
> frozen after the ipl's, and 45 users have problems using the glint driver (to
> also tackle this problems [yes, I am also hit by this bug]) . It
> may be more useful if we would know about their hardware config, and what
> exactly they are doing. So it should be something like: "Please do this poll,
> but, IF you are experience problems DO ALSO report them including your exact
> systems configuration to linuxapus-dev.."
>
> Or maybe a poll with some options like:
>
> - "ide freezes on A1200"
> - "ide freezes on A4000"
>
> And at best something where you could chose multiple options, so you could
> supplement the information given above with, e.g.:
>
> - "freezes on bootup"
> - "freezes by chance"
> - "just spits out messages accidentally but doesn't freeze"
Frankly, I'm quite disorientated, we have been talking about a poll for
two days. I think it's enough time to make a poll and start gathering
information about the problem.
> And, at last, we also need people capable of solving the problems.
> The current situation seems to be that people who experience the very
> hard problems have no idea about fixing them, and the people who could fix
> them don't experience them and can't do anything with only the information
> from mails.
Uhh. It's the worst thing. I hope somebody will fix those problems till
apus dies. Users have been suffering from ide-driver problem since release
of 2.4.14 kernel.
> To shortly summarize: glint troubles only seem to happen on A4000 machines,
> the ide probs mostly on A1200 (altough this may be because there are a lot
> more A1200's out there).
How many subscribed users do our mailing-lists have ? Maybe more general
poll should be done ? What information do we really need ???
Regards
Krystian
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From: Andreas <an...@po...> - 2002-07-11 23:27:21
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Hello Krystian
> Hi !
>
>> Hmm, I don't want to be subversive, it is all nice and ok to set up a poll,
>> but I wonder how much it would actually report about the current
>> situtation. First, I don't know how much folks is lurking around at apus at
>> sourceforge, or are just waiting (like me) for the nice automatically
>> generated mail by sourceforge which says "Project "Linux/APUS Kernel"
>> ('linux-apus') has released the new version of package '2.4 Kernel'. You
>> can download it.."
>
> Yes, I understand you. There're two ways for users, the first one : let
> linux-apus die from lack of programmers/users developing it, or somehow
> help apus community. I'm from the first group, I hope there are also other
> people that would do something for apus. I also realize that my words
> sound hmm... as if I were an idealist, but what would have been linux
> without people willing to develop it...
>
>> Second, the poll options have to be chosen very carefully. Because, does it
>> have any use if we know, well 40 users have problems with booting and are
>> frozen after the ipl's, and 45 users have problems using the glint driver
>> (to also tackle this problems [yes, I am also hit by this bug]) . It may be
>> more useful if we would know about their hardware config, and what exactly
>> they are doing. So it should be something like: "Please do this poll, but,
>> IF you are experience problems DO ALSO report them including your exact
>> systems configuration to linuxapus-dev.."
>>
>> Or maybe a poll with some options like:
>>
>> - "ide freezes on A1200"
>> - "ide freezes on A4000"
>>
>> And at best something where you could chose multiple options, so you could
>> supplement the information given above with, e.g.:
>>
>> - "freezes on bootup"
>> - "freezes by chance"
>> - "just spits out messages accidentally but doesn't freeze"
>
> Frankly, I'm quite disorientated, we have been talking about a poll for
> two days. I think it's enough time to make a poll and start gathering
> information about the problem.
>
>> And, at last, we also need people capable of solving the problems.
>> The current situation seems to be that people who experience the very
>> hard problems have no idea about fixing them, and the people who could fix
>> them don't experience them and can't do anything with only the information
>> from mails.
>
> Uhh. It's the worst thing. I hope somebody will fix those problems till
> apus dies. Users have been suffering from ide-driver problem since release
> of 2.4.14 kernel.
>
>> To shortly summarize: glint troubles only seem to happen on A4000 machines,
>> the ide probs mostly on A1200 (altough this may be because there are a lot
>> more A1200's out there).
>
> How many subscribed users do our mailing-lists have ? Maybe more general
> poll should be done ? What information do we really need ???
Exactly what I am asking for! It's diffccult to estimate the significance of
the answeres gahtered by a poll, and secondly, it's maybe even more difficult
to ask the right questions. If a poll is done, I think it should be an
exception to the rule (say, we shouldn't have a new poll every other day,
because we realized that the polled information is incomplete), therefore it should be a
very meaningful questionary. To increase significance, the poll could e.g. be
made public by the usual amiga news services, and so on.
Well, I am not a developer, but with my little amount of time, I could at
least help produce some useful debugging output concerning the glint problem.
But, I agree with you, as you have been writing in an other post, that maybe
first the ide problem should be tackled, and just on second position, the
glint problem. Bu this doesn't inhibt us on asking about both problems on the
same questionary.
It may be useful if some of the senior developers here could give some advice,
what information really should be asked for, e.g. revision of this and this
file, or hardware stuff. It's not very productive to ask people questions about
their setup, without really knowing which questions really provide the
important information!
Just my .2 p's..
And please keep in mind, this post isn't ment offensive at all!! It only
represents my thoughts trying to help to find out of this quite dodgy
situation.
--
Good night,
Andi
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2002-07-23 10:09:47
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hi, I'n not too concerned about the last_ipl printk's right now...as some other people see them and their system still boots (and operates) some info about what it means might be nice...i know its some debugging. anyway...just too make sure that this wasnt just some changes to the kernel that made slightly dodgy hardware finally die I played with my configuration yesterday....for about 2 hours until I was too tired. heres my findings: 2.4.13 boots with IDEDOUBLER installed. with ide=doubler present and absent in bootstrap line (i just lose my 2nd HD and CD) 2.4.18 doesnt boot with IDEDOUBLER present and ide=doubler 2.4.18 doesnt boot with IDEDOUBLER present and no ide=doubler 2.4.18 doesnt boot with IDEDOUBLER removed from system (ie plain A1200 interface) so....its not hardware...and its not the ide=doubler code (so far as i could tell) It *APPEARS* that the system hangs in ide-probe.c this is a quick statement...i didnt have too much time to delve into the path this code takes (system reboots and kernel compiles take some time). there are a few things I'm concerned about 1) IDEBUSSPEED. this seems to want to run a 33MHz. is this okay for gayle ?? The A1200 motherboard only runs at 14.x/28.x ?? I tried with idebus=14 etc etc but ide-probe still came up with 33 - i guess bootstrap doesnt pass this argument along? 2) delays. do we use the mdelay(); calls in IDE system...or do we use the HZ/20 calls. 3) if this *IS* to do with IRQ and address space allocation (as it appears to be leaning towards) what has changed? oeverything prior to 2.4.14 worked.... i dont have a 2.4.13 source code tarball anymore (dumped my old CD's too....no backups there!) I'd love it if someone had such a tarball I could FTP as then I could start 'diffing' the files in drivers/ide to see what happened....... Alan |
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From: Geert U. <ge...@li...> - 2002-07-23 10:19:31
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Alan Buxey wrote:
> It *APPEARS* that the system hangs in ide-probe.c this is a quick
> statement...i didnt have too much time to delve into the path this code takes
> (system reboots and kernel compiles take some time).
>
> there are a few things I'm concerned about
>
> 1) IDEBUSSPEED. this seems to want to run a 33MHz. is this okay for gayle ??
> The A1200 motherboard only runs at 14.x/28.x ?? I tried with idebus=14
> etc etc but ide-probe still came up with 33 - i guess bootstrap
> doesnt pass this argument along?
AFAIK the IDE bus speed isn't used at all with Gayle.
> 2) delays. do we use the mdelay(); calls in IDE system...or do we use the
> HZ/20 calls.
>
> 3) if this *IS* to do with IRQ and address space allocation (as it appears
> to be leaning towards) what has changed? oeverything prior to 2.4.14
> worked.... i dont have a 2.4.13 source code tarball anymore (dumped my old
> CD's too....no backups there!) I'd love it if someone had such a tarball
> I could FTP as then I could start 'diffing' the files in drivers/ide
> to see what happened.......
Can't you get 2.4.13 from APUS CVS?
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- ge...@li...
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: Michel <mi...@da...> - 2002-07-23 10:40:55
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On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:09, Alan Buxey wrote: >=20 > 3) if this *IS* to do with IRQ and address space allocation (as it appear= s > to be leaning towards) what has changed? oeverything prior to 2.4.14=20 > worked.... i dont have a 2.4.13 source code tarball anymore (dumped my ol= d > CD's too....no backups there!) I'd love it if someone had such a tarball > I could FTP as then I could start 'diffing' the files in drivers/ide > to see what happened....... cvs diff is your friend... --=20 Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast |
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From: Rene B. <re...@we...> - 2002-07-23 20:22:39
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Hi!
I have found some interresting mails from Roman Zippel. Maybe this can=20
help to understand.
Ciao, Ren=E8
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Roman Zippel: 2001.11.05 2:20
Log message:
move disabling of interrupts during probe
enable other interrupts during ide irq
Modified files:
2.3/drivers/ide/:
ide-probe.c ide.c Revision Changes Path
1.4 +89 -55 2.3/drivers/ide/ide-probe.c
1.4 +283 -171 2.3/drivers/ide/ide.c
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Roman Zippel: 2001.11.05 2:29
Log message:
use general interrupt management code
Modified files:
2.3/arch/ppc/amiga/:
amiints.c cia.c config.c 2.3/arch/ppc/kernel/:
apus_setup.c irq.c Removed files:
2.3/arch/ppc/amiga/:
ints.c Revision Changes Path
1.8 +19 -192 2.3/arch/ppc/amiga/amiints.c
1.4 +17 -71 2.3/arch/ppc/amiga/cia.c
1.12 +21 -32 2.3/arch/ppc/amiga/config.c
1.27 +53 -146 2.3/arch/ppc/kernel/apus_setup.c
1.12 +0 -7 2.3/arch/ppc/kernel/irq.c
------------------------------------------------------------
Roman Zippel: 2001.11.05 2:48
Hi,
> Log message:
> use general interrupt management code
This was a major surgery, I hoped everything still works as before,
please test it carefully.
Biggest visible difference is a new /proc/interrupts format, which is
now the same as for other ppc machines. Otherwise there is now finally
that annoying "Trying to enable auto-vector" print gone. I left another
print in (last_ipl[x] already set to...), it should only occur rarely
and shouldn't be a problem. I'll remove it later again.
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From: Ken T. <ke...@we...> - 2002-07-24 01:49:31
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Alan Buxey wrote: > 1) IDEBUSSPEED. this seems to want to run a 33MHz. is this okay for gayle ?? > The A1200 motherboard only runs at 14.x/28.x ?? I tried with idebus=14 > etc etc but ide-probe still came up with 33 - i guess bootstrap > doesnt pass this argument along? > 2) delays. do we use the mdelay(); calls in IDE system...or do we use the > HZ/20 calls. We can probably eliminate the above two points as 2.4.18 is fine on my 4000. > 3) if this *IS* to do with IRQ and address space allocation (as it appears > to be leaning towards) what has changed? oeverything prior to 2.4.14 > worked.... i dont have a 2.4.13 source code tarball anymore (dumped my old > CD's too....no backups there!) I'd love it if someone had such a tarball > I could FTP as then I could start 'diffing' the files in drivers/ide > to see what happened....... I have a tar of 2.2.x, is that any use ? Ken. |
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From: Roman Z. <zi...@li...> - 2002-07-24 20:22:33
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Hi, Alan Buxey wrote: > I'n not too concerned about the last_ipl printk's right now...as > some other people see them and their system still boots (and operates) > some info about what it means might be nice...i know its some debugging. It's some interrupt event history (positive number for interrupt entry, negative for exit). It's printed when it sees unexpected interrupts. The basic problem is a buggy interrupt controller, which generates interrupt when it shouldn't. The new interrupt code ignores these interrupts. It's not completely clear why it crashes and without hardware I cannot debug this. The problem is that this requires some careful adding of prints and lots of reboots, since too much prints will modify the behaviour and magically "fix" the problem. bye, Roman |
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From: Rene B. <re...@we...> - 2002-07-24 20:40:25
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On 2002.07.24 22:22 Roman Zippel wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Alan Buxey wrote: >=20 > > I'n not too concerned about the last_ipl printk's right now...as > > some other people see them and their system still boots (and operates= ) > > some info about what it means might be nice...i know its some > debugging. >=20 > It's some interrupt event history (positive number for interrupt entry, > negative for exit). It's printed when it sees unexpected interrupts. Th= e > basic problem is a buggy interrupt controller, which generates interrup= t > when it shouldn't. Hi! What do you mean with "buggy interrupt controller"? Is it on the Amiga=20 board or on the PPC-board? Or is it simply a peace of software? Ciao, Ren=E8 |
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From: Roman Z. <zi...@li...> - 2002-07-24 20:46:43
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Hi, On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Rene Brothuhn wrote: > What do you mean with "buggy interrupt controller"? Is it on the Amiga > board or on the PPC-board? Or is it simply a peace of software? The interrupt controller in the ppc board. bye, Roman |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2002-07-25 08:59:04
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hi, > The interrupt controller in the ppc board. ..which already has some extra lines in the apus_setup.c file (The blizzardPPC was a right pain to get booting into APUS at the very start of the project...) . strange how this only manifests itself at the part when IDE is being setup. alan |
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From: Rene B. <re...@we...> - 2002-07-25 13:11:07
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On 2002.07.25 10:58 Alan Buxey wrote: > hi, > > > The interrupt controller in the ppc board. > > ..which already has some extra lines in the apus_setup.c file > (The blizzardPPC was a right pain to get booting into APUS > at the very start of the project...) . strange how this only manifests > itself at the part when IDE is being setup. > Hmm, so have you tried a kernel without the IDE stuff within and booted from SCSI or the test-ramdisk? Ciao, Renè |
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From: Andreas <an...@po...> - 2002-07-25 10:32:56
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Hi > Alan Buxey wrote: > >> I'n not too concerned about the last_ipl printk's right now...as >> some other people see them and their system still boots (and operates) >> some info about what it means might be nice...i know its some debugging. > > It's some interrupt event history (positive number for interrupt entry, > negative for exit). It's printed when it sees unexpected interrupts. The > basic problem is a buggy interrupt controller, which generates interrupt > when it shouldn't. I wonder if it may have something to do with the different ppc firmware revisions. May it be that the newer kernels somehow dislike newer versions of the flashrom on cyberstorm and blizzard cards, and therefore crash on those machines, but work on older ones (like mine or yours) or vice versa? IIRC there have lately (year 2001) been some new updates floating around to support pci bridging boards. Maybe we should have asked about the firmware revision in the poll. > The new interrupt code ignores these interrupts. It's > not completely clear why it crashes and without hardware I cannot debug > this. The problem is that this requires some careful adding of prints > and lots of reboots, since too much prints will modify the behaviour and > magically "fix" the problem. -- Kind regards, Andi |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-07-11 08:38:31
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Hi!
> The sourceforge software already has polls built in, we just need to set
> them up. If nobody with the necessary rights wants to do it, I can give
> you those rights.
Could you give me those rights, I'll also make a poll about FastAta
(PowerFlyer), I'm especially interested how many people do have FastATA,
and which model. I also want to know who should I give drivers for
testing..
In my opinion poll about ide/ipl problem should look like this:
* Amiga model : A1200/A4000
* Board revision : for instance : rev2b ...
* PPC Card Model : for instance : Blizzard 603e/175/68040/40
* Kernel used : 2.4.x
* Suffer from ipl/ide problem : Yes/No
* Strange behaviour : description for instance : waits for
about 20s after that continues booting
* Remarks : kernel is showing last ipl also when ....
* Email : ...
What do you think about such a poll ??? I hope we won't discuss this
problem more that it is necessary.
I really want to get 2.4.x kernel working on my amiga, then I'll be
able to start writing driver.
Regards
Krystian Baclawski
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2002-07-11 08:58:51
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hi, > In my opinion poll about ide/ipl problem should look like this: > > * Amiga model : A1200/A4000 > * Board revision : for instance : rev2b ... > * PPC Card Model : for instance : Blizzard 603e/175/68040/40 > * Kernel used : 2.4.x > * Suffer from ipl/ide problem : Yes/No > * Strange behaviour : description for instance : waits for > about 20s after that continues booting > * Remarks : kernel is showing last ipl also when .... > * Email : ... IIRC the sf.net poll system isnt that 'advanced' - its just a case of each question being able to have stock seection of answers... (which are programmable) but no remark fields or email entering fields etc. the idea of a PHP program to collect the data is the most interesting method to collect such information. I would possibly get a PowerFlyer if it had proper support. been holding off. > I really want to get 2.4.x kernel working on my amiga, then I'll be > able to start writing driver. me too... i need to have a working kernel so that I can start playing with things that no longer work... eg some serial hardware. and then maybe even take up that Mediator PCI challenge..or start on it. but my kernel source code compiles...but I cant use that kernel (and stupidly I now longer have a 2.4.13 tree :-( ) alan |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-07-11 09:19:54
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HI ! > > In my opinion poll about ide/ipl problem should look like this: > > > > * Amiga model : A1200/A4000 > > * Board revision : for instance : rev2b ... > > * PPC Card Model : for instance : Blizzard 603e/175/68040/40 > > * Kernel used : 2.4.x > > * Suffer from ipl/ide problem : Yes/No > > * Strange behaviour : description for instance : waits for > > about 20s after that continues booting > > * Remarks : kernel is showing last ipl also when .... > > * Email : ... > > IIRC the sf.net poll system isnt that 'advanced' - its just a case of > each question being able to have stock seection of answers... (which > are programmable) but no remark fields or email entering fields etc. Too bad. > the idea of a PHP program to collect the data is the most interesting > method to collect such information. Who would do that ? Somebody said he would help us... > I would possibly get a PowerFlyer if it had proper support. been holding off. So, you see we are in hmm ... "deadlock". > > I really want to get 2.4.x kernel working on my amiga, then I'll be > > able to start writing driver. > > me too... i need to have a working kernel so that I can start playing > with things that no longer work... eg some serial hardware. and then > maybe even take up that Mediator PCI challenge..or start on it. > but my kernel source code compiles...but I cant use that kernel > (and stupidly I now longer have a 2.4.13 tree :-( ) So in apus-developers best interest should be fixing that bug as fast as possible :) It's a pity that I cannot do anything about it because of my lack of knowledge. Regards Krystian |
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