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From: Rene B. <re...@we...> - 2002-07-11 11:54:16
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On 2002.07.11 11:32 Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: > > the idea of a PHP program to collect the data is the most interesting > > method to collect such information. >=20 > Who would do that ? Somebody said he would help us... I would do that. I have some(or many?) PHP-experiences and have also=20 programmed some larger polls with PHP and database support (with about=20 15.000 datasets...). In normal case, if the questions we will ask are clear, it will take 3 - = 4=20 houres to prepare such a poll. But we need a PHP-able webspace. Ciao, Ren=E8 |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-07-11 13:43:17
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HI! > I would do that. I have some(or many?) PHP-experiences and have also > programmed some larger polls with PHP and database support (with about > 15.000 datasets...). > In normal case, if the questions we will ask are clear, it will take 3 - 4 > houres to prepare such a poll. But we need a PHP-able webspace. Great, but do we have such a space ??? |
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From: Michel <mi...@da...> - 2002-07-11 13:52:14
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On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 10:58, Alan Buxey wrote: > hi, >=20 > > In my opinion poll about ide/ipl problem should look like this: > >=20 > > * Amiga model : A1200/A4000 > > * Board revision : for instance : rev2b ... > > * PPC Card Model : for instance : Blizzard 603e/175/68040/= 40 > > * Kernel used : 2.4.x > > * Suffer from ipl/ide problem : Yes/No > > * Strange behaviour : description for instance : waits for > > about 20s after that continues booting=20 > > * Remarks : kernel is showing last ipl also when ..= .. > > * Email : ... >=20 > IIRC the sf.net poll system isnt that 'advanced' - its just a case of > each question being able to have stock seection of answers... (which > are programmable) but no remark fields or email entering fields etc. >=20 > the idea of a PHP program to collect the data is the most interesting > method to collect such information. Will you take care of filling in Krystian and/or Ren=E9 and giving them the necessary credentials? --=20 Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast |
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From: Michel <mi...@da...> - 2002-07-11 19:26:35
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On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 10:50, Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote:=20 > Hi! >=20 > > The sourceforge software already has polls built in, we just need to se= t > > them up. If nobody with the necessary rights wants to do it, I can give > > you those rights. >=20 > Could you give me those rights, I'll also make a poll about FastAta > (PowerFlyer), I'm especially interested how many people do have FastATA, > and which model. I also want to know who should I give drivers for > testing.. >=20 > In my opinion poll about ide/ipl problem should look like this: >=20 > * Amiga model : A1200/A4000 > * Board revision : for instance : rev2b ... > * PPC Card Model : for instance : Blizzard 603e/175/68040/40 > * Kernel used : 2.4.x > * Suffer from ipl/ide problem : Yes/No > * Strange behaviour : description for instance : waits for > about 20s after that continues booting=20 > * Remarks : kernel is showing last ipl also when .... > * Email : ... Looks good to me, maybe you could also include questions about the X problems people seem to have with CVisionPPCs. --=20 Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-07-11 21:15:57
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Hi! > > Could you give me those rights, I'll also make a poll about FastAta > > (PowerFlyer), I'm especially interested how many people do have FastATA, > > and which model. I also want to know who should I give drivers for > > testing.. > > > > In my opinion poll about ide/ipl problem should look like this: > > > > * Amiga model : A1200/A4000 > > * Board revision : for instance : rev2b ... > > * PPC Card Model : for instance : Blizzard 603e/175/68040/40 > > * Kernel used : 2.4.x > > * Suffer from ipl/ide problem : Yes/No > > * Strange behaviour : description for instance : waits for > > about 20s after that continues booting > > * Remarks : kernel is showing last ipl also when .... > > * Email : ... > > Looks good to me, maybe you could also include questions about the X > problems people seem to have with CVisionPPCs. But what should I ask for... I don't have this problem. If I had it I'd know what to ask about. I wonder if only a part of A4000 users are affected by this problem, or all of them, ie. it's a question of differences between hardware or a kernel and/or xserver related problem. BTW. I think everything should be done in proper order. I mean, the working ide-driver is the most important thing, after fixing it we should focus on glint driver problem. Why ? Maybe it's very irritaiting having those crashes, but not having kernel that works prevent me (not only me) from developing apus. It's a pity (as Andreas Wust said) that people who experience those problem aren't those who would solve them quickly. Regards Krystian Baclawski |
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From: Rene B. <re...@we...> - 2002-07-11 21:41:17
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On 2002.07.11 23:28 Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: > > > > Looks good to me, maybe you could also include questions about the X > > problems people seem to have with CVisionPPCs. >=20 > But what should I ask for... I don't have this problem. If I had it > I'd know what to ask about. Simply ask: If you have running the glint driver, do you have x-server=20 crashes on shut down? > I wonder if only a part of A4000 users are affected by this problem, or > all of them, ie. it's a question of differences between hardware or a > kernel and/or xserver related problem. Right. So we have to ask about x-server version, kernel version, maybe=20 glibc version, gcc version that was used for compiling the running kernel= =20 and if the graphics- and PPC-board is a P5 or DCE one. But whats up now? Should I make a php-script for a poll? Ciao, Ren=E8 |
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From: <cah...@po...> - 2002-07-11 21:58:59
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Hi! > > > Looks good to me, maybe you could also include questions about the X > > > problems people seem to have with CVisionPPCs. > >=20 > > But what should I ask for... I don't have this problem. If I had it > > I'd know what to ask about. >=20 > Simply ask: If you have running the glint driver, do you have x-server=20 > crashes on shut down? >=20 >=20 > > I wonder if only a part of A4000 users are affected by this problem, or > > all of them, ie. it's a question of differences between hardware or a > > kernel and/or xserver related problem. >=20 > Right. So we have to ask about x-server version, kernel version, maybe=20 > glibc version, gcc version that was used for compiling the running kernel= =20 > and if the graphics- and PPC-board is a P5 or DCE one. >=20 > But whats up now? Should I make a php-script for a poll? Yes, start doing it, but before we release it I want to be sure whether it really provides information that will be useful. Maybe someone have additional suggestions about a poll ??? (I think that the poll will be easy comparing to fixing those problems.) Regards Krystian Bac=B3awski |
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From: Rene B. <re...@we...> - 2002-07-12 00:13:55
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On 2002.07.12 00:11 Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote: > > > > But whats up now? Should I make a php-script for a poll? >=20 > Yes, start doing it, but before we release it I want to be sure whether > it > really provides information that will be useful. >=20 > Maybe someone have additional suggestions about a poll ??? >=20 > (I think that the poll will be easy comparing to fixing those problems.= ) Hello! Here the first review for the poll. Just drop the html-file to a browser.= =20 The elements of the form will then be send to a php-script (which not=20 exists for now) and simply writes all statements to a file. Please make=20 your changes and/or give suggestions. BTW, in my opinion we should do different polls for the IDE/last_ipl and=20 glint problems. Ciao |
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From: Rene B. <re...@we...> - 2002-07-11 11:44:32
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On 2002.07.10 23:26 Michel D=E4nzer wrote: > On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 23:06, Rene Brothuhn wrote: > > Hello! > > > > As I see, linux-apus.sf.net runs on PHP. I know some PHP programming, > so > > maybe I can help a lot? >=20 > The sourceforge software already has polls built in, we just need to se= t > them up. If nobody with the necessary rights wants to do it, I can give > you those rights. O.K. Ciao, Ren=E8 |
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From: Rene B. <re...@we...> - 2002-07-11 14:20:22
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On 2002.07.11 15:52 Michel D=E4nzer wrote: > Will you take care of filling in Krystian and/or Ren=E9 and giving them > the necessary credentials? Hi! Maybe thats not necessary. The only thing I need to know is: exists a=20 possibility to use own php-scripts on linux-apus.sf.net and which version= =20 of PHP there exists? I can prepare the scripts here on my local linux-box, then I send it to=20 you and you put it to the apus-site. Thats the easiest way. Ciao, Ren=E8 |
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From: Michel <mi...@da...> - 2002-07-11 14:34:53
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On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 16:20, Rene Brothuhn wrote: > On 2002.07.11 15:52 Michel D=E4nzer wrote: > > Will you take care of filling in Krystian and/or Ren=E9 and giving them > > the necessary credentials? >=20 > Hi! >=20 > Maybe thats not necessary. The only thing I need to know is: exists a=20 > possibility to use own php-scripts on linux-apus.sf.net and which version= =20 > of PHP there exists? > I can prepare the scripts here on my local linux-box, then I send it to=20 > you and you put it to the apus-site. Thats the easiest way. I think it's much easier if you have direct access, but if someone else wants to play the middle man, fine with me. :) --=20 Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast |
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From: Roman Z. <zi...@li...> - 2002-07-10 19:48:41
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Hi, "Krystian Bac=B3awski" wrote: > Yep, exactly. I found lines that produce it in arch/ppc/setup.c or > apus_setup.c. But I don't know much about kernel organisation. Ush. I'l= l > have to read a little about it. Someone who has access to the hardware has to debug this. I can help, but I don't have the time for "remote" kernel debugging. bye, Roman |
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From: Rene B. <re...@we...> - 2002-07-09 14:03:16
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On 2002.07.09 10:42 Alan Buxey wrote: > 2.4.13 works. anything after doesnt? yes, this has got me too :-( >=20 >=20 > last_ipl[] -2 2 3 -3 2 2 2 2 -3 3 >=20 > etc etc is the last two lines you see before nothing else? yes, same > problem I also getting these last_ipl[] outputs, mostly on boot, mostly on shut=20 down and sometimes between. I think I have it since 2.4.14 but not sure. I simply comment out the printk`s in apus_setup.c (to get rid of it)=20 because the kernel seems otherwise working perfect. Ciao, Ren=E8 |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2002-07-09 14:17:12
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hi, > I also getting these last_ipl[] outputs, mostly on boot, mostly on shut > down and sometimes between. I think I have it since 2.4.14 but not sure. > I simply comment out the printk`s in apus_setup.c (to get rid of it) > because the kernel seems otherwise working perfect. I've recently read a thread which states that 603e was IMPROVED after 2.4.13 kernel. now....this information coupled with the fact that APUS doesnt boot since 2.4.13 makes me worry. I thought it may have been some IDE thing...but ... alan |
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From: Rene B. <re...@we...> - 2002-07-09 14:56:39
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On 2002.07.09 16:16 Alan Buxey wrote: > hi, >=20 > > I also getting these last_ipl[] outputs, mostly on boot, mostly on sh= ut > > down and sometimes between. I think I have it since 2.4.14 but not > sure. > > I simply comment out the printk`s in apus_setup.c (to get rid of it) > > because the kernel seems otherwise working perfect. >=20 > I've recently read a thread which states that 603e was > IMPROVED after 2.4.13 kernel. now....this information coupled > with the fact that APUS doesnt boot since 2.4.13 makes me worry. > I thought it may have been some IDE thing...but ... Hi, Alan! I'm not sure if I understand you right (I am only a german...). But I use= =20 a 604e@200MHz with CV-PPC and booting from IDE. All seems working fine,=20 but the last_ipl[] outputs. As far as I know, there are some differences=20 between 603e and 604e (the MMU?). By the way, I have other problems (many segmentation faults) that may be=20 kernel related or related to this issue. As Krystian Baclawski say, we should do a poll. I last mentioned that we=20 should also make a poll for X4-server crashes on some machines using the=20 glint-driver. Michel said, it is able to do a poll on sf.net. How? Ciao, Ren=E8 |
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From: Ken T. <ke...@we...> - 2002-07-10 10:07:13
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On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Rene Brothuhn wrote: > On 2002.07.09 16:16 Alan Buxey wrote: Hello, I'm running 2.4.18 on a A4000 with 604e, boots and runs fine, I see Jul 10 07:45:09 enigma kernel: last_ipl[2] already set to 2f, now 2d! Jul 10 07:45:09 enigma kernel: 7056736: 3 -3 3 -3 3 -3 3 -3 3 -3 3 -3 2 3 -3 2 if it means anything. Ken. |
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