linux-apus-devel

Re: CVS checkout of 2.2

[Frank P. <fp...@zu...>]

On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 11:58:20AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> I've tried it from the 2.2 and 2.2/Documentation directory, no luck. The same
> error appears when I try.
> 
> Or would I have to specify some special file to unlock?

So it seem that we need the help of the sourceforge team. Can one of the
project admins contact them, please?
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Re: CVS commit notice

[Michel <da...@re...>]

Michel Dänzer wrote:

> sh: /cvsroot/linux-apus/CVSROOT/log_accum2: No such file or directory

I wonder if and how cvs admin can be used to get the actual file in the
repository, but I'm at work and have no time to figure it out...


Michel


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Re: CVS checkout of 2.2

[Michel <da...@re...>]

Jesper Skov wrote:
> 
> >>>>> "Michel" == Michel Dänzer <dae...@st...> writes:
> 
> >> > Frank Petzold wrote: > > > > CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z3 upd -dP > ^ >
> >> What's the P switch for?  > > > cvs server: [00:27:47] waiting for
> >> mdaenzer's lock in > > /cvsroot/linux-apus/2.2/Documentation > > >
> >> > I can't check out/update the 2.2 tree. Who can return the lock?
> >> Michel?  > > I hope so... what can I do?  > > I remember that CVS
> >> exited with a segfault once - maybe that's what caused > this
> >> problem?
> >>
> >> Help!
> >>
> >> I've tried to commit again, but I get the same error.
> >>
> >> If anyone knows how to fix this, please speak up!
> 
> Michel> As Ken pointed out privately, we'd probably need direct shell
> Michel> access to fix it :(
> 
> thinktwice:> cvs --help admin
> Usage: cvs admin rcs-options files...
> 
> And man rcs:
> 
>     -u[rev]
> [snip]
> 
> Try that first.

Thanks for the hint, but it doesn't work either :(

I've tried it from the 2.2 and 2.2/Documentation directory, no luck. The same
error appears when I try.

Or would I have to specify some special file to unlock?


Michel


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Re: CVS Book.

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> > I wasnt to keen to place the 2.2.10-PCI into the 2.2 module download area
> > until we're all happy its okay - I'd like the 2.2 module to be where ppl
> > can be assured it'll work
> 
> That's okay, thanks for putting it up at sourceforge - the s(up)ports was
> supposed to be a pun though ;)

I know...thats why I kept it ;-)
 
> No, modules can't be deleted (AFAIR there's a big fat warning when creating
> one), but they can be renamed, so let's make a 2.3 module from one.

thats fine then :-)

alan

Re: CVS checkout of 2.2

[Jesper S. <js...@re...>]

>>>>> "Michel" == Michel Dänzer <dae...@st...> writes:

>> > Frank Petzold wrote: > > > > CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z3 upd -dP > ^ >
>> What's the P switch for?  > > > cvs server: [00:27:47] waiting for
>> mdaenzer's lock in > > /cvsroot/linux-apus/2.2/Documentation > > >
>> > I can't check out/update the 2.2 tree. Who can return the lock?
>> Michel?  > > I hope so... what can I do?  > > I remember that CVS
>> exited with a segfault once - maybe that's what caused > this
>> problem?
>> 
>> Help!
>> 
>> I've tried to commit again, but I get the same error.
>> 
>> If anyone knows how to fix this, please speak up!

Michel> As Ken pointed out privately, we'd probably need direct shell
Michel> access to fix it :(


thinktwice:> cvs --help admin
Usage: cvs admin rcs-options files...

And man rcs:

    -u[rev]
              Unlock the revision with number rev.  If  a  branch
              is  given,  unlock  the  latest  revision  on  that
              branch.  If rev is omitted, remove the latest  lock
              held by the caller.  Normally, only the locker of a
              revision can unlock it.  Somebody else unlocking  a
              revision  breaks the lock.  This causes a mail mes­
              sage to be sent to the original locker.   The  mes­
              sage  contains  a  commentary  solicited  from  the
              breaker.  The commentary is terminated  by  end-of-
              file or by a line containing . by itself.

Try that first.

Jesper

Re: CVS checkout of 2.2

[Michel <dae...@st...>]

> > Frank Petzold wrote:
> > >
> > > CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z3 upd -dP
> >                             ^
> > What's the P switch for?
> >
> > > cvs server: [00:27:47] waiting for mdaenzer's lock in
> > > /cvsroot/linux-apus/2.2/Documentation
> > >
> > > I can't check out/update the 2.2 tree. Who can return the lock? Michel?
> >
> > I hope so... what can I do?
> >
> > I remember that CVS exited with a segfault once - maybe that's what caused
> > this problem?
> 
> Help!
> 
> I've tried to commit again, but I get the same error.
> 
> If anyone knows how to fix this, please speak up!

As Ken pointed out privately, we'd probably need direct shell access to fix it
:(

So how would I best go about contacting someone at sourceforge for it (Sven?)
?


Michel


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Re: CVS Book.

[Michel <dae...@st...>]

Alan Buxey wrote:

> I wasnt to keen to place the 2.2.10-PCI into the 2.2 module download area
> until we're all happy its okay - I'd like the 2.2 module to be where ppl
> can be assured it'll work

That's okay, thanks for putting it up at sourceforge - the s(up)ports was
supposed to be a pun though ;)


> - hope that files can be relocated (or modules deleted) if this is not the
> case, then please tell me straight away (test kernel can be for 2.2 or 2.3
> test kernels...is that okay?)

No, modules can't be deleted (AFAIR there's a big fat warning when creating
one), but they can be renamed, so let's make a 2.3 module from one.


Michel


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Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4mne?=: ADE/GG and APUS

[Michel <dae...@st...>]

Alan Buxey wrote:

> > That is, I do get occasional '/bin/sh: Text file busy' errors. I then have
> > to copy it to another place, rm it and copy it back. Anyone else
> > encountered that? Could this be a compiler problem?
> 
> what filesystem are you working with,

ext2

> what kernel revision?

2.2.10


Michel


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New kernel image on SF!

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

arggh! the last mail from me shoul dhave had this title. thats it, no more
stuff this morning...otherwise who knows what I'll do wrong next!  8-)

I've uploaded the PCI kernel to SF.

alan

Re: CVS Book.

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

oops , browser reload problem - there are two 'test kernel' modules.

I wasnt to keen to place the 2.2.10-PCI into the 2.2 module download area
until we're all happy its okay - I'd like the 2.2 module to be where ppl
can be assured it'll work - hope that files can be relocated (or modules
deleted) if this is not the case, then please tell me straight away
(test kernel can be for 2.2 or 2.3 test kernels...is that okay?)

alan

Re: CVS Book.

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Ken Tyler wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> Something for all us CVS newbies,

excellent - i'll be printing that now then :-)
 
alan

Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4mne?=: ADE/GG and APUS

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> Why would you need perl? Shell scripting is very powerful.

PERL has loads of wonderful modules and a good TCL linkup.
 
> That is, I do get occasional '/bin/sh: Text file busy' errors. I then have to
> copy it to another place, rm it and copy it back. Anyone else encountered
> that? Could this be a compiler problem?

what filesystem are you working with, what kernel revision?

alan

CVS Book.

[Ken T. <ke...@we...>]

Hello,

Something for all us CVS newbies,

I found a free book at cvsbook.red-bean.com.  It's several chapters, all
the technical info from a (soon to be) published book by Coriolis Inc.  
The missing chapters deal with philosophical aspects of open source
development.

Review :

Looks all right to me.

Ken.

Re: 2.3 and ami_int3

[Michel <dae...@st...>]

Roman Zippel wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > It still doesn't boot with pm2fb here, I get tons of 'amiga_disable_irq:
> > trying to disable Amiga auto IRQ 3' messages.
> 
> This shouldn't happen anymore with my latest cvs changes (at least it
> went away for me... :) ), IMO it was a reentrancy problem for shared
> interrupts.

I still have the problem, whether I build amifb in the kernel, as a module or
not at all.


Michel


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Re: CVS checkout of 2.2

[Michel <dae...@st...>]

Michel Dänzer wrote:
> 
> Frank Petzold wrote:
> >
> > CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z3 upd -dP
>                             ^
> What's the P switch for?
> 
> > cvs server: [00:27:47] waiting for mdaenzer's lock in
> > /cvsroot/linux-apus/2.2/Documentation
> >
> > I can't check out/update the 2.2 tree. Who can return the lock? Michel?
> 
> I hope so... what can I do?
> 
> I remember that CVS exited with a segfault once - maybe that's what caused
> this problem?

Help!

I've tried to commit again, but I get the same error.

If anyone knows how to fix this, please speak up!

And I'd be interested to learn what one can do with cvs admin...


Michel


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Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4mne?=: ADE/GG and APUS

[Michel <dae...@st...>]

Alan Buxey wrote:

> Makefiles?  My experience of gcc is really limited to basics - something
> I aim to change (along with various other things - ie once I've
> got my PERL stuff I can do this 'kernel on demand' via a PERL scripting)

Why would you need perl? Shell scripting is very powerful.


> my only thought is that its gcc2.95.2 - and we've had problems under Linux
> making kernels with this version, correct?

No.

I've been building kernels with it without major problems so far.

That is, I do get occasional '/bin/sh: Text file busy' errors. I then have to
copy it to another place, rm it and copy it back. Anyone else encountered
that? Could this be a compiler problem?


Michel


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Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4mne:_ADE=2FGG_and_APUS?=

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> (you can turn .elf to AmigaHunk by using elf2hunk2 - so long as the
> .elf was created with gcc using the  -warp flag )

correction!

elf2exe2

alan

Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4mne:_ADE=2FGG_and_APUS?=

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> file ppcboot_pup
> 
> says it is a ppc elf binary.
> 
> But then maybe they have changed since the warpup guys don't liked elf, ...

ppcboot_pup is a ppc elf binary. PowerUP uses ELF format

ppcboot_wup is an amigaHunk ppc executable

(you can turn .elf to AmigaHunk by using elf2hunk2 - so long as the
.elf was created with gcc using the  -warp flag )

alan

Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4mne:_Re:_=C4mne:_ADE=2FGG_and_APUS?=

[Sven L. <lu...@dp...>]

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 06:42:36PM +0430, nicholai wrote:
> >I think toi remember that :
> >
> >file ppcboot_pup
> >
> >says it is a ppc elf binary.
> >
> >But then maybe they have changed since the warpup guys don't liked elf, ...
> >
> 
> Basically, gcc for warpup also produces an elf file. There's an external tool that encapsules that file so that warpup can recognise it. I don't know if the compiler is modified for amigaos though. 

...

> The best thing might be to build a crosscompiler targetted at linux/ppc (if you think it's worth the effort)

Don't know, just thought it would be fun, but then i have no time for it.

Sven

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C4mne:=20?=Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C4mne:=20?=ADE/GG and APUS

[nicholai <mp...@ch...>]

>I think toi remember that :
>
>file ppcboot_pup
>
>says it is a ppc elf binary.
>
>But then maybe they have changed since the warpup guys don't liked elf, ...
>

Basically, gcc for warpup also produces an elf file. There's an external tool that encapsules that file so that warpup can recognise it. I don't know if the compiler is modified for amigaos though. 

The best thing might be to build a crosscompiler targetted at linux/ppc (if you think it's worth the effort)

/Nicholai

Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4mne:_ADE=2FGG_and_APUS?=

[Sven L. <lu...@dp...>]

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 03:37:37PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 11:47:29AM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > > > That's probably possible but I wouldn't recommend it. First of all, it would take forever to compile (even ppc hosted gcc is slow under amigaos) and second you run the risk of all sorts of trouble. Why do you even want to try if you've got linux/ppc running?
> > > 
> > > for fun of course! :-)  I'd would just be a dual convenience:   
> > > 
> > > One single ARexx script to perform 'kernel on demand' service
> > > I was thinking of.
> > 
> > Hello alan, ...
> > 
> > if you are on the fun side of things, ... i longly thought that since the
> > ppc-gcc stuff compiled elf binaries, contrary to the warpup stuff, it would be
> > possible to compile an kenrel by the ppc compiler under amigaos. I think the
> 
> It depends... m68k-cbm-amigados-gcc generates a.out binaries, just like
> m68k-linuxaout-gcc (m68k-cbm-amigados-ld takes care of creating AmigaOS `hunk'
> executables. But that doesn't mean you can use m68k-linuxaout-gcc to compile
> AmigaOS programs. Apparently they had to change gcc to allow for the A6
> register to be used as the library base register for AmigaOS, while the plain
> gcc insists on using A6 as the frame pointer (no, -no-frame-pointer didn't help
> last time I tried).
> 
> A similar problem may exist with APUS.

I think toi remember that :

file ppcboot_pup

says it is a ppc elf binary.

But then maybe they have changed since the warpup guys don't liked elf, ...

Friendly,

Sven LUTHER

Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4mne:_ADE=2FGG_and_APUS?=

[Geert U. <ge...@li...>]

On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 11:47:29AM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > > That's probably possible but I wouldn't recommend it. First of all, it would take forever to compile (even ppc hosted gcc is slow under amigaos) and second you run the risk of all sorts of trouble. Why do you even want to try if you've got linux/ppc running?
> > 
> > for fun of course! :-)  I'd would just be a dual convenience:   
> > 
> > One single ARexx script to perform 'kernel on demand' service
> > I was thinking of.
> 
> Hello alan, ...
> 
> if you are on the fun side of things, ... i longly thought that since the
> ppc-gcc stuff compiled elf binaries, contrary to the warpup stuff, it would be
> possible to compile an kenrel by the ppc compiler under amigaos. I think the

It depends... m68k-cbm-amigados-gcc generates a.out binaries, just like
m68k-linuxaout-gcc (m68k-cbm-amigados-ld takes care of creating AmigaOS `hunk'
executables. But that doesn't mean you can use m68k-linuxaout-gcc to compile
AmigaOS programs. Apparently they had to change gcc to allow for the A6
register to be used as the library base register for AmigaOS, while the plain
gcc insists on using A6 as the frame pointer (no, -no-frame-pointer didn't help
last time I tried).

A similar problem may exist with APUS.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4mne:_ADE=2FGG_and_APUS?=

[Sven L. <lu...@dp...>]

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 02:14:54PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote:
> hi,
> 
> > if you are on the fun side of things, ... i longly thought that since the
> > ppc-gcc stuff compiled elf binaries, contrary to the warpup stuff, it would be
> > possible to compile an kenrel by the ppc compiler under amigaos. I think the
> > steps needed for it would be to look at the CROSS variable in the Makefiles,
> > and to add there the name of the gcc-ppc compiler, you would have to look
> > around, i don't remeber about it exactly. And then this kernel _should_ be ok
> > to run. Jesper don't believe in it thought, and from his expereince long time
> > ago, it is very slow and memory hungry, ... It can be done though, since
> > Jesper compiled the first apus kernel under amigaos (myself cross compiled
> > under linux from m68k (that is 68040/25MHz) to ppc only, in the times of apus
> > not working for blizzard board).
> 
> :-) does anyone have the variables that need to be changed in the

It is easy, it is just the cross variable and maybe one other, who have to be
set to the prefix of the cross compiler and/or the target architecture.

Makefile are easy to read, ... and the kernel ones are somewhat documented,
...

> Makefiles?  My experience of gcc is really limited to basics - something
> I aim to change (along with various other things - ie once I've
> got my PERL stuff I can do this 'kernel on demand' via a PERL scripting)
> 
> my only thought is that its gcc2.95.2 - and we've had problems under Linux
> making kernels with this version, correct?

Frist try, then if you pass the first 10 minutes of compilation, you now that
the makefile are ok, and that the gcc version is the culprit.

But only if you have time for fun stuff.

Friendly,

Sven LUTHER

Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4mne:_ADE=2FGG_and_APUS?=

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> if you are on the fun side of things, ... i longly thought that since the
> ppc-gcc stuff compiled elf binaries, contrary to the warpup stuff, it would be
> possible to compile an kenrel by the ppc compiler under amigaos. I think the
> steps needed for it would be to look at the CROSS variable in the Makefiles,
> and to add there the name of the gcc-ppc compiler, you would have to look
> around, i don't remeber about it exactly. And then this kernel _should_ be ok
> to run. Jesper don't believe in it thought, and from his expereince long time
> ago, it is very slow and memory hungry, ... It can be done though, since
> Jesper compiled the first apus kernel under amigaos (myself cross compiled
> under linux from m68k (that is 68040/25MHz) to ppc only, in the times of apus
> not working for blizzard board).

:-) does anyone have the variables that need to be changed in the
Makefiles?  My experience of gcc is really limited to basics - something
I aim to change (along with various other things - ie once I've
got my PERL stuff I can do this 'kernel on demand' via a PERL scripting)

my only thought is that its gcc2.95.2 - and we've had problems under Linux
making kernels with this version, correct?

alan

Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4mne:_ADE=2FGG_and_APUS?=

[Sven L. <lu...@dp...>]

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 11:47:29AM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote:
> hi,
> 
> > That's probably possible but I wouldn't recommend it. First of all, it would take forever to compile (even ppc hosted gcc is slow under amigaos) and second you run the risk of all sorts of trouble. Why do you even want to try if you've got linux/ppc running?
> 
> for fun of course! :-)  I'd would just be a dual convenience:   
> 
> One single ARexx script to perform 'kernel on demand' service
> I was thinking of.

Hello alan, ...

if you are on the fun side of things, ... i longly thought that since the
ppc-gcc stuff compiled elf binaries, contrary to the warpup stuff, it would be
possible to compile an kenrel by the ppc compiler under amigaos. I think the
steps needed for it would be to look at the CROSS variable in the Makefiles,
and to add there the name of the gcc-ppc compiler, you would have to look
around, i don't remeber about it exactly. And then this kernel _should_ be ok
to run. Jesper don't believe in it thought, and from his expereince long time
ago, it is very slow and memory hungry, ... It can be done though, since
Jesper compiled the first apus kernel under amigaos (myself cross compiled
under linux from m68k (that is 68040/25MHz) to ppc only, in the times of apus
not working for blizzard board).

Friendly,

Sven LUTHER