Thread: [Lily4jedit-devel] Video demonstration
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From: Valentin V. <v.v...@gm...> - 2008-04-01 16:55:55
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Hi Bertalan, hi everybody, As you may know, I'm publishing, each week, an opinion column about LilyPond, LilyPondTool and other related projects. So far I have only mentioned the Julie project, because I'm waiting for my audience to keep increasing; when I feel the time has come, I plan to write a "special-LilyPondTool" issue, with an interview of its author, a full review with screenshots etc, and some other stuff I still have to figure out. However, on next week's issue, I am about to present a video that Nicolas Sceaux sent me, demonstrating the speed of his LilyPond emacs mode (with real-time sound preview): http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/lilypond/lyqi.avi I thought It would be nice if someone could do a short video using LilyPondTool as well, using QuickLily shorcuts or the integrated LilyPiano keyboard -- just so I can feature both editors, and not just emacs. Alternatively, if we do not manage to make a LilyPondTool video this week, I can just add a advertising-like sentence such as "Have you been impressed by this video? In next week's issue, we'll feature a new video demonstrating LilyPondTool's power and speed; stay tuned!" Cheers, Valentin |
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From: Bertalan F. <lil...@or...> - 2008-04-01 19:47:34
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I think LilyPondTool's quicklily mode is not stable yet, it is experimental. LilyPondTool has an other very nice set of features. But one can use the two together easily. Just open the same file in emacs and jEdit will automatically reload it if you change it in emacs. Bert Valentin Villenave írta: > Hi Bertalan, hi everybody, > > As you may know, I'm publishing, each week, an opinion column about > LilyPond, LilyPondTool and other related projects. So far I have only > mentioned the Julie project, because I'm waiting for my audience to > keep increasing; when I feel the time has come, I plan to write a > "special-LilyPondTool" issue, with an interview of its author, a full > review with screenshots etc, and some other stuff I still have to > figure out. > > However, on next week's issue, I am about to present a video that > Nicolas Sceaux sent me, demonstrating the speed of his LilyPond emacs > mode (with real-time sound preview): > > http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/lilypond/lyqi.avi > > I thought It would be nice if someone could do a short video using > LilyPondTool as well, using QuickLily shorcuts or the integrated > LilyPiano keyboard -- just so I can feature both editors, and not just > emacs. > > Alternatively, if we do not manage to make a LilyPondTool video this > week, I can just add a advertising-like sentence such as "Have you > been impressed by this video? In next week's issue, we'll feature a > new video demonstrating LilyPondTool's power and speed; stay tuned!" > > Cheers, > Valentin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > _______________________________________________ > Lily4jedit-devel mailing list > Lil...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lily4jedit-devel > > |
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From: Valentin V. <v.v...@gm...> - 2008-04-01 21:25:18
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2008/4/1, Bertalan Fodor <lil...@or...>: > I think LilyPondTool's quicklily mode is not stable yet, it is > experimental. LilyPondTool has an other very nice set of features. But > one can use the two together easily. Just open the same file in emacs > and jEdit will automatically reload it if you change it in emacs. It's up to you; however, I still think a small video preview would have been great do emphasize both editors: their different features, different approach to notation. When speaking with users, I often realize they're not at all aware of LilyPondTool's most interesting features... Anyway, as I told you, I'll see how my weekly column evolves, and if it appears to keep being read by many people I'll prepare a full presentation of LPT, with your help (if you agree), in a few weeks. Cheers, Valentin |
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From: Bertalan F. <lil...@or...> - 2008-04-01 21:50:03
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Sure, a video is good. But not quicklily mode. And I'm very happy to help preparing that column. Bert Valentin Villenave írta: > 2008/4/1, Bertalan Fodor <lil...@or...>: > >> I think LilyPondTool's quicklily mode is not stable yet, it is >> experimental. LilyPondTool has an other very nice set of features. But >> one can use the two together easily. Just open the same file in emacs >> and jEdit will automatically reload it if you change it in emacs. >> > > It's up to you; however, I still think a small video preview would > have been great do emphasize both editors: their different features, > different approach to notation. When speaking with users, I often > realize they're not at all aware of LilyPondTool's most interesting > features... > > Anyway, as I told you, I'll see how my weekly column evolves, and if > it appears to keep being read by many people I'll prepare a full > presentation of LPT, with your help (if you agree), in a few weeks. > > Cheers, > Valentin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > _______________________________________________ > Lily4jedit-devel mailing list > Lil...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lily4jedit-devel > > |
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From: Valentin V. <v.v...@gm...> - 2008-04-02 09:41:09
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2008/4/2, Pierre Bach <pie...@bl...>: > The flash demo in http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/87.0.html look for me > excellent and an easy way to understand the advantage of the jedit plug-in. Yes, I already tried to embed it, *but* - It is too large :) - It is too long - It is too pedagogical, and therefore not convenient for my purpose; we dont want to teach people how to use jEdit, but just too impress them by showing them a live recording of someone working with it, and very quickly using many of LPT's various features :) Cheers, Valentin |
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From: Bertalan F. (LilyPondTool) <lil...@or...> - 2008-04-02 11:22:43
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So the question is: who creates the video? :-) Or should I ask qui vont preparer le video? :-) Valentin Villenave wrote: > 2008/4/2, Pierre Bach <pie...@bl...>: > > >> The flash demo in http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/87.0.html look for me >> excellent and an easy way to understand the advantage of the jedit plug-in. >> > > Yes, I already tried to embed it, *but* > - It is too large :) > - It is too long > - It is too pedagogical, and therefore not convenient for my purpose; > we dont want to teach people how to use jEdit, but just too impress > them by showing them a live recording of someone working with it, and > very quickly using many of LPT's various features :) > > Cheers, > Valentin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > _______________________________________________ > Lily4jedit-devel mailing list > Lil...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lily4jedit-devel > > -- LilyPondTool is the editor for LilyPond files. See http://lilypondtool.organum.hu |
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From: Valentin V. <v.v...@gm...> - 2008-04-02 12:11:50
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> Valentin Villenave wrote: > we dont want to teach people how to use jEdit, but just too impress > them by showing them a live recording of someone working with it, and > very quickly using many of LPT's various features :) 2008/4/2, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) <lil...@or...>: > > So the question is: who creates the video? :-) Or should I ask qui vont > preparer le video? :-) That was, more or less, my initial question :) (meaning I don't feel confident enough to do it myself: I use to type all the code manually without using any shortcut nor special LPT feature -- not because I don't find them useful, but just because I'm an indentation control freak, as I confessed on http://valentin.villenave.info/spip.php?article53#nb3 ) I can give it a shot though; but in that case I'd need you to help me creating the "scenario" of the video: - e.g. first use the New Score Wizard to create a score, - then use the LilyPiano to type a few notes, - then compile the score and open the PDF - then use the ruler to move an object and create an override in the clipboard, - then perhaps modify the override by looking at the relevant section in lilyJHelp - then compile (and perhaps play the score using the integrated MIDI player) Am I missing something? Cheers, Valentin |