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From: Mike N. <mh...@us...> - 2000-11-14 14:14:53
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At 09:44 PM 11/13/00 -0800, Mike Sensney <mse...@ow...> wrote: >I made a four leaf clover graphic in 2 sizes you might want to look at and >make suggestions about. > >http://users.owt.com/msensney/leaf/ Mike, You can see it in context at: http://www.mindspring.com/~pnoyes/leaf/ -- Mike Noyes mh...@us... http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf |
From: Rick O. <ri...@ma...> - 2000-11-14 13:46:07
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Mike Sensney wrote: > I made a four leaf clover graphic in 2 sizes you might want to look at and > make suggestions about. > http://users.owt.com/msensney/leaf/ It's cute, and I think it would be a nice supplemental graphic/logo. Does it scale down well to very small sizes? -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 ri...@ma... (work) th...@ps... (home) Help with LRP: lrp.c0wz.com 68 Camaro wanted: dingo.mcrnet.net Windows users: Please delete me from your contact list when done corresponding with me. You should trim your contact list often anyway. My opinions don't exist, and as such, are not anyone elses. I don't represent anyone, not even myself, and especially not my employer.. |
From: Mike S. <mse...@ow...> - 2000-11-14 05:45:38
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I made a four leaf clover graphic in 2 sizes you might want to look at and make suggestions about. http://users.owt.com/msensney/leaf/ |
From: Mike N. <mh...@us...> - 2000-11-13 22:24:10
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Pedro, Thanks, the page now validates as HTML 4.0 Transitional! At 04:04 PM 11/13/00 +0000, Pedro Barreto <pba...@ph...> wrote: >this two tag's don't have a background property, you must style'em via css; > >{Line 76, column 15: > <td background="images/tbar1.png" width="1%" height="17"><img src="ima ... > ^ >Error: there is no attribute "BACKGROUND" > >Line 169, column 33: > <tr bgcolor="#D1D5D7" background="images/steel3.jpg" align= > ^ >Error: there is no attribute "BACKGROUND"} -- Mike Noyes mh...@us... http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf |
From: Rick O. <ri...@ma...> - 2000-11-13 19:31:27
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Mike Noyes wrote: > Thanks, but I didn't have to do much. I just chopped out code from the > project summary page. The spelling errors are now corrected. If you see > anymore let me know. Sounds like how I got lrp.c0wz.com from www.linuxrouter.org.. ;) > The text is still under construction. If you have a definition for > "Internet leaf site", please send it to me. Can't say as I know a way to explain it gracefully. > BTW, Do you know of an easy way to correct the two errors I get from > http://validator.w3.org/ From http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mindspring.com%2F%7Epnoyes%2Fleaf%2F Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML parser. Line 76, column 15: <td background="images/tbar1.png" width="1%" height="17"><img src="ima ... ^ Error: there is no attribute "BACKGROUND" Line 169, column 33: <tr bgcolor="#D1D5D7" background="images/steel3.jpg" align= ^ Error: there is no attribute "BACKGROUND" I guess you can't use 'background' in a table. Lame. Then again, this could be a cryptic error message telling you not to use " marks, or some stupid thing.. ;) > Also, have you started on your submission yet? Heh..er...no...the dog ate my homework! ;) I guess I'll try to come up with something...but I really like what you've done. > -- > Mike Noyes > mh...@us... > http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 ri...@ma... (work) th...@ps... (home) Help with LRP: lrp.c0wz.com 68 Camaro wanted: dingo.mcrnet.net Windows users: Please delete me from your contact list when done corresponding with me. You should trim your contact list often anyway. My opinions don't exist, and as such, are not anyone elses. I don't represent anyone, not even myself, and especially not my employer.. |
From: <PBa...@ph...> - 2000-11-13 16:01:20
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this two tag's don't have a background property, you must style'em via css; {Line 76, column 15: <td background="images/tbar1.png" width="1%" height="17"><img src="ima ... ^ Error: there is no attribute "BACKGROUND" Line 169, column 33: <tr bgcolor="#D1D5D7" background="images/steel3.jpg" align= ^ Error: there is no attribute "BACKGROUND"} pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Noyes [mailto:mh...@us...] > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 3:33 PM > To: lea...@li... > Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Alpha web site > > > At 09:31 AM 11/13/00 -0500, Rick Onanian > <ri...@ma...> wrote: > >Mike Noyes wrote: > > > I've an Alfa quality Leaf home page available for preview at: > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~pnoyes/leaf/ > > > > > > Please, let me know what you think. > > > >Well, before letting it out of alpha, you'd have to work on > >your spelling a bit, but...looks great! :) > > Thanks, but I didn't have to do much. I just chopped out code > from the > project summary page. The spelling errors are now corrected. > If you see > anymore let me know. > > >People might not know what an 'internet leaf site' is, though. > > The text is still under construction. If you have a definition for > "Internet leaf site", please send it to me. > > BTW, Do you know of an easy way to correct the two errors I get from > http://validator.w3.org/ > > Also, have you started on your submission yet? > > -- > Mike Noyes > mh...@us... > http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf > > _______________________________________________ > Leaf-devel mailing list > Lea...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/leaf-devel > |
From: Mike N. <mh...@us...> - 2000-11-13 15:40:53
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At 09:31 AM 11/13/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <ri...@ma...> wrote: >Mike Noyes wrote: > > I've an Alfa quality Leaf home page available for preview at: > > http://www.mindspring.com/~pnoyes/leaf/ > > > > Please, let me know what you think. > >Well, before letting it out of alpha, you'd have to work on >your spelling a bit, but...looks great! :) Thanks, but I didn't have to do much. I just chopped out code from the project summary page. The spelling errors are now corrected. If you see anymore let me know. >People might not know what an 'internet leaf site' is, though. The text is still under construction. If you have a definition for "Internet leaf site", please send it to me. BTW, Do you know of an easy way to correct the two errors I get from http://validator.w3.org/ Also, have you started on your submission yet? -- Mike Noyes mh...@us... http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf |
From: Rick O. <ri...@ma...> - 2000-11-13 14:46:15
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Mike Noyes wrote: > I've an Alfa quality Leaf home page available for preview at: > http://www.mindspring.com/~pnoyes/leaf/ > > Please, let me know what you think. Well, before letting it out of alpha, you'd have to work on your spelling a bit, but...looks great! :) People might not know what an 'internet leaf site' is, though. > -- > Mike Noyes > mh...@us... > http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 ri...@ma... (work) th...@ps... (home) Help with LRP: lrp.c0wz.com 68 Camaro wanted: dingo.mcrnet.net Windows users: Please delete me from your contact list when done corresponding with me. You should trim your contact list often anyway. My opinions don't exist, and as such, are not anyone elses. I don't represent anyone, not even myself, and especially not my employer.. |
From: Ray O. <ra...@co...> - 2000-11-11 00:10:49
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At 03:32 PM 11/10/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >At 02:39 PM 11/10/00 -0800, Ray Olszewski <ra...@co...> wrote: ... >>I like it very much. Direct and to the point. Clear. The logo looks good -- >>not fancy, but as a direct result, also not obscure. > >Thanks, but I can't take credit for the logo. Pedro created that. I knew that, and I'd previously mentioned liking it in the abstract. This was our (my, anyway) first chance to see it in a context, and I'm pleased to see that it works as well as I'd hoped it would. Nice work, Pedro! -- ------------------------------------"Never tell me the odds!"--- Ray Olszewski -- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA ra...@co... ---------------------------------------------------------------- |
From: Mike N. <mh...@us...> - 2000-11-10 23:54:51
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At 10:32 PM 11/10/00 +0000, Pedro Barreto <pba...@ph...> wrote: >I like it! Thanks. >but can't we escape form that sourceforge layout? I mean I like it that >way, but a modern simple layout would be nice! This is just my idea, and it may not be the one we end up using. >by the way, eventually I'll end my work on the 3d logo, and then your are >going to drool!!! I hope! :) I'm salivating already. :) >no, really later this weekend I think it will be done, this last 2 month, >information technologies fairs have fried my brain! xml, xsl, xslt is fun, >but not all day, 7 days a week!... ok I'll shut up! > >I like it! Mike, I hope you don't think that I criticized it because I >proposed to make one, I was thinking more in the line of cooperation, so >if I have something to say, I say it because it's my opinion, nothing else. Please make your own submission. The more choices we have the better. This is just my submission, and I welcome all suggestions for it. Rick wanted multiple ideas for us to pick the eventual LEAF home page from. Then, once a choice is made we will start cooperating on improvements. -- Mike Noyes mh...@us... http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf |
From: Mike N. <mh...@us...> - 2000-11-10 23:36:03
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At 02:39 PM 11/10/00 -0800, Ray Olszewski <ra...@co...> wrote: >At 01:34 PM 11/10/00 -0800, Mike Noyes <mh...@us...> wrote: > >I've an Alfa quality Leaf home page available for preview at: > >http://www.mindspring.com/~pnoyes/leaf/ > > > >Please, let me know what you think. > >I like it very much. Direct and to the point. Clear. The logo looks good -- >not fancy, but as a direct result, also not obscure. Thanks, but I can't take credit for the logo. Pedro created that. I'm just starting one of my logo submissions, but I haven't found a royalty free red fireman's helmet for Tux yet. >In general, I'm tired of the "stupid Web tricks" I see at all too many >sites. You've stayed to the point and given the content of the site the >opportunity to speak for itself. Smart move. Keep up the good work. Thanks, I'm trying to integrate the Home Page with the SF project pages as much as possible. I still need to run the page through tidy, and verify it at w3.org. Also, I need to start on the sub pages for Oxygen, EigerStein, and affiliates. -- Mike Noyes mh...@us... http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf |
From: Ray O. <ra...@co...> - 2000-11-10 22:36:37
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At 01:34 PM 11/10/00 -0800, you wrote: >I've an Alfa quality Leaf home page available for preview at: >http://www.mindspring.com/~pnoyes/leaf/ > >Please, let me know what you think. I like it very much. Direct and to the point. Clear. The logo looks good -- not fancy, but as a direct result, also not obscure. In general, I'm tired of the "stupid Web tricks" I see at all too many sites. You've stayed to the point and given the content of the site the opportunity to speak for itself. Smart move. Keep up the good work. -- ------------------------------------"Never tell me the odds!"--- Ray Olszewski -- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA ra...@co... ---------------------------------------------------------------- |
From: Pedro B. <pba...@ph...> - 2000-11-10 22:32:13
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I like it! but can't we escape form that sourceforge layout? I mean I like it that way, but a modern simple layout would be nice! by the way, eventually I'll end my work on the 3d logo, and then your are going to drool!!! I hope! :) no, really later this weekend I think it will be done, this last 2 month, information technologies fairs have fried my brain! xml, xsl, xslt is fun, but not all day, 7 days a week!... ok I'll shut up! I like it! Mike, I hope you don't think that I criticized it because I proposed to make one, I was thinking more in the line of cooperation, so if I have something to say, I say it because it's my opinion, nothing else. pedro At 13:34 10-11-2000 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >I've an Alfa quality Leaf home page available for preview at: >http://www.mindspring.com/~pnoyes/leaf/ > >Please, let me know what you think. > >-- >Mike Noyes >mh...@us... >http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf > >_______________________________________________ >Leaf-devel mailing list >Lea...@li... >http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/leaf-devel |
From: Mike N. <mh...@us...> - 2000-11-10 21:38:32
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I've an Alfa quality Leaf home page available for preview at: http://www.mindspring.com/~pnoyes/leaf/ Please, let me know what you think. -- Mike Noyes mh...@us... http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf |
From: Mike N. <mh...@us...> - 2000-11-09 18:01:04
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At 12:22 PM 11/6/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >Unless someone objects, I'm going to request archival of SourceForge >group_id=776 later this week. If someone wants to use it in the future, >they can have it unarchived. Everyone should remove any links they have to >the LRP SF site. The SF LRP site is now archived. It no longer shows up in SF searches, and isn't listed in the software map. Also, developer memberships are removed. For some reason these URL's are still active. http://linuxrouter.sourceforge.net/ http://download.sourceforge.net/linuxrouter/ ftp://download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/linuxrouter/ ftp://linuxrouter.sourceforge.net/pub/linuxrouter/ -- Mike Noyes mh...@us... http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf |
From: Ray O. <ra...@co...> - 2000-11-08 20:23:59
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Slow day, huh? Me too. You remind me of a message I saw quite some time ago, which suggested that "GPL" could easily scan into the tune of "Jingle Bells". It prompted my son and me to write ... G P L, G P L, G P L's the way Oh what fun it is to code, and give your source away, oh ... G P L, G P L, G P L hooray! Coding's so much fun that we don't need no stinkin' pay. Much catchier than the GPL Anthem (a real song, which you can find recordings of Stallman sort-of "singing"). We did verses too ("grep'ing through the code ..." on debugging; also an emacs one), but I never liked them as much. At 02:32 PM 11/8/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: > >To the tune of 'how much is that doggy in the window' > > How much is that packet in the window? > The one with the TCP header... > >[insert next couple lines here] -- ------------------------------------"Never tell me the odds!"--- Ray Olszewski -- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA ra...@co... ---------------------------------------------------------------- |
From: Rick O. <ri...@ma...> - 2000-11-08 19:45:35
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To the tune of 'how much is that doggy in the window' How much is that packet in the window? The one with the TCP header... [insert next couple lines here] -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 ri...@ma... (work) th...@ps... (home) Help with LRP: lrp.c0wz.com 68 Camaro wanted: dingo.mcrnet.net Windows users: Please delete me from your contact list when done corresponding with me. You should trim your contact list often anyway. My opinions don't exist, and as such, are not anyone elses. I don't represent anyone, not even myself, and especially not my employer.. |
From: Mike N. <mh...@us...> - 2000-11-08 13:11:08
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Everyone, I just updated the "Mailing List Questions Answered" FAQ. http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=1465&group_id=13751 I have an open support request with SF. It concerns my inability to release the Eiger source on download.sourceforge.net. https://sourceforge.net/support/ \ ?func=detailsupport&group_id=1&support_id=107709 Our directory on download.sourceforge.net is available from these URLs: ftp://download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/leaf/ http://download.sourceforge.net/leaf/ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13751 I'm going to start work on my LEAF home page submission today. -- Mike Noyes mh...@us... http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf |
From: Mike N. <mh...@us...> - 2000-11-07 16:38:35
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Everyone, The leaf-devel list is now set to member_posting_only=yes. I'll update the Leaf list FAQ with pertinent information for people with different From and Reply-To addresses later today. -- Mike Noyes mh...@us... http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf |
From: David D. <ss...@ma...> - 2000-11-07 16:31:26
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I'm updating stty (it's been out of date for over a year!) and found something interesting. Using the old version, you get this: # stty --version stty (GNU sh-utils) 1.16 Using the NEW version, you get this: # ./stty --version stty (GNU sh-utils) 2.0 Written by David MacKenzie. Copyright (C) 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. Anyone notice all this blasted wordiness and legaleze? For anyone who can't read legaleze, this is what *I* read there: ... This is free software with strings; see the source. There is no warranty; we don't claim it works even for what we say it does; if it doesn't do what we say it does, it's not our fault. Who wants THAT in the version output? Not me... -- David Douthitt UNIX Systems Administrator HP-UX, Linux, Unixware ddo...@me... |
From: Kenneth H. <kh...@pa...> - 2000-11-07 15:27:06
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----- Original Message ----- From: "David Douthitt" <ss...@ma...> To: <lea...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: SYSLINUX 1.49 released > On 7 Nov 2000, at 6:29, Kenneth Hadley wrote: > > > I'm well aware that this is not a core component of LRP/LEAF > > however one of my major (probably ONLY) gripes about LRP is that the > > packages and support programs are rarely updated...... is this something that > > should change in LEAF? in my opinion ...yes.... but I'm curious what others > > think..... any voices? > > I'm surprised you haven't seen the packages I've been creating - and > I know Charles has been updating too. > > These days I'm working on the Oxygen core, updating everything. So > far, I've updated (at least) sed, syslinux, traceroute, tftp, and > others. Package-wise, I updated quite a few, but added many more. I > plan to keep updating things as long as I can. LOL ... :-) my apologies.....I neglected excluding you and Charles..... I havnt had a chance to test your packages but ive used Charles's quite often.... In fact if one takes ppp.lrp from my pppoe disk image based on Charles Eigerstein2Beta one will find the newest pppd v.2.3.11 in complete form (i think) since I did NOT merge the pppoe client (roaring penguin v.2.3 i think) with the pppd deamon... > -- > David Douthitt > UNIX Systems Administrator > HP-UX, Linux, Unixware > ddo...@me... -Kenneth Hadley |
From: David D. <ss...@ma...> - 2000-11-07 15:06:14
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On 7 Nov 2000, at 6:29, Kenneth Hadley wrote: > I'm well aware that this is not a core component of LRP/LEAF > however one of my major (probably ONLY) gripes about LRP is that the > packages and support programs are rarely updated...... is this something that > should change in LEAF? in my opinion ...yes.... but I'm curious what others > think..... any voices? I'm surprised you haven't seen the packages I've been creating - and I know Charles has been updating too. These days I'm working on the Oxygen core, updating everything. So far, I've updated (at least) sed, syslinux, traceroute, tftp, and others. Package-wise, I updated quite a few, but added many more. I plan to keep updating things as long as I can. -- David Douthitt UNIX Systems Administrator HP-UX, Linux, Unixware ddo...@me... |
From: Kenneth H. <kh...@pa...> - 2000-11-07 14:39:46
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----- Original Message ----- From: "David Douthitt" <ss...@ma...> To: <lea...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: SYSLINUX 1.49 released > On 6 Nov 2000, at 16:56, Kenneth Hadley wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hp...@zy...> > > To: <sys...@li...> > > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 1:04 PM > > Subject: SYSLINUX 1.49 released > > Sigh. As this was written, I updated Oxygen to use Syslinux 1.48. > Sigh. Sigh. :-) > > > > Changes in 1.49: > > > > * SYSLINUX: Default installer binary now compiled against > > > glibc 2.1. If this is inappropriate for your system and you > > > still want to use the offical version of SYSLINUX, please > > > follow the instructions in "distrib.doc" to rebuild the > > > installer. > > What does this mean to LRP? It won't compile? The precompiled > binary won't run? It won't install syslinux right? It won't boot > correctly? I'm confused..... Good question......I'll take a look at these questions tonight because they caught my eye as well Im pretty sure from the DOS prspective syslinux still will run but from the Debian Slink prespective it *appears* that it needs glib 2.1 but CAN be compiled differently via instructions in "distrib.doc" I will experiment with this tonight ... and yes...im well aware that this is not a core componant of LRP/LEAF however one of my major (probably ONLY) gripes about LRP is that the packages and support programs are rarely updated......is this something that should change in LEAF? in my opinion ...yes....but im curious what others think.....any voices? -Kenneth Hadley > -- > David Douthitt > UNIX Systems Administrator > HP-UX, Linux, Unixware > ddo...@me... |
From: Rick O. <ri...@ma...> - 2000-11-07 14:25:27
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David Douthitt wrote: > > > Changes in 1.49: > > > > * SYSLINUX: Default installer binary now compiled against > > > glibc 2.1. If this is inappropriate for your system and you > > > still want to use the offical version of SYSLINUX, please > > > follow the instructions in "distrib.doc" to rebuild the > > > installer. > > What does this mean to LRP? It won't compile? The precompiled > binary won't run? It won't install syslinux right? It won't boot > correctly? I'm confused..... LRP devel systems that run 'syslinux' to make a floppy bootable will have to have glibc 2.1 to run the pre-compiled binary from the syslinux site. Syslinux, as it's used in a LRP floppy disk system, is not a Linux binary and doesn't use any libraries; it's just some machine-level boot code in the boot sector of the floppy disk. > -- > David Douthitt > UNIX Systems Administrator > HP-UX, Linux, Unixware > ddo...@me... -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 ri...@ma... (work) th...@ps... (home) Help with LRP: lrp.c0wz.com 68 Camaro wanted: dingo.mcrnet.net Windows users: Please delete me from your contact list when done corresponding with me. You should trim your contact list often anyway. My opinions don't exist, and as such, are not anyone elses. I don't represent anyone, not even myself, and especially not my employer.. |
From: David D. <ss...@ma...> - 2000-11-07 14:09:25
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On 6 Nov 2000, at 16:56, Kenneth Hadley wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hp...@zy...> > To: <sys...@li...> > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 1:04 PM > Subject: SYSLINUX 1.49 released Sigh. As this was written, I updated Oxygen to use Syslinux 1.48. Sigh. Sigh. :-) > > Changes in 1.49: > > * SYSLINUX: Default installer binary now compiled against > > glibc 2.1. If this is inappropriate for your system and you > > still want to use the offical version of SYSLINUX, please > > follow the instructions in "distrib.doc" to rebuild the > > installer. What does this mean to LRP? It won't compile? The precompiled binary won't run? It won't install syslinux right? It won't boot correctly? I'm confused..... -- David Douthitt UNIX Systems Administrator HP-UX, Linux, Unixware ddo...@me... |