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From: Karl H. K. <kh...@kh...> - 2001-12-05 00:58:42
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Just add -lm to the linker flags in the Makefile. I don't have access to the sources right now, so I can not be more specific. If you need more information, just let me know and I'll try to come up with better instructions. Karl Heinz On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 04:01:35PM -0700, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: >=20 > I seem to recall hitting this before, and I don't think I ever > solved it, and if I did, for the life of me I can't remember what I > did. The system is a RedHat 7.1 OS (with that bloody GCC 2.96). lcms > version 1.07. >=20 > Building testbed... > /usr/lib/liblcms.a(cmsgamma.o): In function `FGamma': > /usr/local/src/ImageMagick/delegates/lcms-1.07/src/cmsgamma.c:62: > undefined reference to `pow' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >=20 > Suggestions anyone? >=20 > -- > W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. > +-------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:as...@pc...> . 303.442.6410 x130 > IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 > Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 > http://www.pcraft.com ..... . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Lcms-user mailing list > Lcm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user --=20 Karl Heinz Kremer kh...@kh... PGP Key at http://www.khk.net/download/khk.asc EPSON Sane Backend: http://www.khk.net |
From: Ashley M. K. <as...@pc...> - 2001-12-04 22:57:02
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I seem to recall hitting this before, and I don't think I ever solved it, and if I did, for the life of me I can't remember what I did. The system is a RedHat 7.1 OS (with that bloody GCC 2.96). lcms version 1.07. Building testbed... /usr/lib/liblcms.a(cmsgamma.o): In function `FGamma': /usr/local/src/ImageMagick/delegates/lcms-1.07/src/cmsgamma.c:62: undefined reference to `pow' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Suggestions anyone? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:as...@pc...> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com ..... . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. |
From: Armindo Da S. <tec...@wa...> - 2001-12-03 17:43:49
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Hi Marti, thanks for your tips, it works fine. You new web site is very nice. Your delphi sample is very interesting in particular concerning the icc = files inside the combobox..... thanks Armindo Hi, Just build your own descriptor: #define TYPE_LabA_8 = (COLORSPACE_SH(PT_Lab)|CHANNELS_SH(3)|BYTES_SH(1)|EXTRA_SH(1)) In delphi this equals to $a0099=20 Regards, Marti. Hello, in a 24 bits bitmap, instead of storing rgb value I store Lab value, I do some process and then I convert it to RGB with cmsDoTransform(hTransform, TheScanline, TheScanline, TheWidth); where hTransform :=3D cmsCreateTransform(LabProfile, TYPE_Lab_8, DisplayProfile, TYPE_BGR_8, INTENT_PERCEPTUAL,0); it works fine now I want to do the same with a 32 bits picture where instead of = Having RGBA I have LabA but now how can I do my transform with scaline? the problem for me = is that the TYPE_Lab_8 is only 3 bytes. Any idea? thanks Armindo |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-12-03 15:00:44
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Hi, The new 1.08 version is released, and available on site. http://www.littlecms.com Feel free to submit any questions about it. Regards, Martí Maria The little cms project http://www.littlecms.com ma...@li... |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-12-03 14:55:00
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Hi, Just build your own descriptor: #define TYPE_LabA_8 = (COLORSPACE_SH(PT_Lab)|CHANNELS_SH(3)|BYTES_SH(1)|EXTRA_SH(1)) In delphi this equals to $a0099=20 Regards, Marti. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Armindo Da Silva=20 To: lcm...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:07 AM Subject: [Lcms-user] Scanline Transform Hello, in a 24 bits bitmap, instead of storing rgb value I store Lab value, I do some process and then I convert it to RGB with cmsDoTransform(hTransform, TheScanline, TheScanline, TheWidth); where hTransform :=3D cmsCreateTransform(LabProfile, TYPE_Lab_8, DisplayProfile, TYPE_BGR_8, INTENT_PERCEPTUAL,0); it works fine now I want to do the same with a 32 bits picture where instead of = Having RGBA I have LabA but now how can I do my transform with scaline? the problem for me is = that the TYPE_Lab_8 is only 3 bytes. Any idea? thanks Armindo |
From: Armindo Da S. <tec...@wa...> - 2001-12-03 14:29:54
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Hello, in a 24 bits bitmap, instead of storing rgb value I store Lab value, I do some process and then I convert it to RGB with cmsDoTransform(hTransform, TheScanline, TheScanline, TheWidth); where hTransform :=3D cmsCreateTransform(LabProfile, TYPE_Lab_8, DisplayProfile, TYPE_BGR_8, INTENT_PERCEPTUAL,0); it works fine now I want to do the same with a 32 bits picture where instead of Having = RGBA I have LabA but now how can I do my transform with scaline? the problem for me is = that the TYPE_Lab_8 is only 3 bytes. Any idea? thanks Armindo |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-11-28 09:03:08
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Hi Great! Hope this would be a big step towards more compatibility, so many thanks for all the effort you have put on it :-) I am sending some comments to you by private email, just to avoid boring mailing list about installation specifics. Regards, Martí Maria The little cms project http://www.littlecms.com ma...@li... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurent Martelli" <la...@be...> To: <lcm...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: [Lcms-user] .debs for lprof 1.08 > I've just built some .debs for lprof and lcms 1.08. You can find them > at http://www.bearteam.org/debian. Or put this in your source.list : > > deb http://www.bearteam.org/debian/ ./ > > The packages are not perfect yet, but do not hesitate to report bug > (to me, I'm not a debian developper -- yet) > > -- > Laurent Martelli > la...@be... http://www.bearteam.org/~laurent/ > > _______________________________________________ > Lcms-user mailing list > Lcm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user > > |
From: Laurent M. <la...@be...> - 2001-11-27 20:32:50
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I've just built some .debs for lprof and lcms 1.08. You can find them at http://www.bearteam.org/debian. Or put this in your source.list : deb http://www.bearteam.org/debian/ ./ The packages are not perfect yet, but do not hesitate to report bug (to me, I'm not a debian developper -- yet) -- Laurent Martelli la...@be... http://www.bearteam.org/~laurent/ |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-11-14 10:38:41
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Yep, so, Kylix access can be done, since lcms can be linked as shared library. Nice. A bit late to include in 1.08, but I will try on next revision. Thanks for the info. Marti. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Armindo Da Silva" <tec...@wa...> To: <lcm...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:06 AM Subject: [Lcms-user] Kylix version > > > Do you know if Klinx can somehow call C code? > > > Of course, it is possible and in fact it's quite trivial thing. Please, > find the posting with subject "Huge .so files" in the newsgroup > borland.public.kylix.rtl where you'll find an example of working code, > which does exactly what you want. > > if you understand french you can also have a look at : > http://www.developpez.com/kylix/interfacage_C_CPP.htm > > > Armindo > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lcms-user mailing list > Lcm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user > > |
From: Armindo Da S. <tec...@wa...> - 2001-11-14 10:28:20
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> Do you know if Klinx can somehow call C code? Of course, it is possible and in fact it's quite trivial thing. Please, find the posting with subject "Huge .so files" in the newsgroup borland.public.kylix.rtl where you'll find an example of working code, which does exactly what you want. if you understand french you can also have a look at : http://www.developpez.com/kylix/interfacage_C_CPP.htm Armindo |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-11-14 09:34:31
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Hi > Is there a kylix version planned for LCMS? Not by now... I have no access to Klinx, but probably it could be done if Klinx is capable to use C routines. lcms does work in a multiple platforms, so the only question would be interfacing liblcms.a with Klinx. Do you know if Klinx can somehow call C code? > Any plan to port your lcms demo to 1.08? Ops, this should be done yet. Too few time and may things to do ;-) Also, a Qt demo would be nice. I will left for next revision. Regards, Marti. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Armindo Da Silva" <tec...@wa...> To: <lcm...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:58 AM Subject: [Lcms-user] Kylix version > Hi Marti, > > Is there a kylix version planned for LCMS? > > Any plan to port your lcms demo to 1.08? > > bye > > Armindo > > > _______________________________________________ > Lcms-user mailing list > Lcm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user > > |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-11-14 09:29:42
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Hi, Well, I'm not a lawyer, and of course this *could* have legal implications, so, this is my tech-only point of view: 4,500,919 ======== "A system for reproducing a color original in a medium using a selected multiplicity of reproduction colorants, comprising: a scanner for producing from said color original a train of appearance signals dependent on at least three color values of said original; aesthetic correction circuitry for introducing aesthetically desired alteration into said appearance signals to produce modified appearance signals; and colorant selection mechanism for receiving said modified appearance signals and for selecting corresponding reproduction signals representing values of said reproduction colorants to produce in said medium a color match of said modified appearance signals" This could refer to profiles.... lcms does only implement the mechanics for profile interpretation as described by International color consortium (ICC) www.color.org . lcms does NOT characterize any device, and does NOT introduce any aesthetic correction. Is up to the profile (and then up the profile generator) to embed such corrections in profile. Also, seems unapplicable to lcms, since there is no scanner involved. Another question is lcms could be used to build such system, but lcms does'n give this functionality out of the box. 5,432,906 ======= "A method and apparatus for generating a modified electronic image combines multiple image transforms into a single composite transform, and then modifies the electronic image in accordance with the composite transform. The composite transform includes sample values sequentially modified in accordance with each of the multiple image transforms being combined. The method and apparatus further provides a user interface allowing a user to select individual transforms for composition. The use of a composite transforms allows a user to interact with the image processing system more quickly and interactively while obtaining a desired modified image. " This patent is holded by Kodak, and is a bit more complex. Seems they have patented just the icc way to handle color management... However, again, lcms does NOT implement all they describe. lcms does NOT have any user interface (it acts as a daemon). Also, (and this is surprising, but true) the profiles DOES NOT hold sample values, but the complete algorithm to convert between colorspaces. lcms DOES smelt multiple image transforms into a single composite transform, but as an option selectable by programmer. Anyway, without this smelting, color management is so slow that is unuseable. These composite transforms are described by ICC as "device link profiles", and thus, supported by lcms as being part of the ICC standard. Again, don't take too seriously my comments. I'm not a lawyer, and this, of course, could cause problems with Kodak. lcms is intended to be a portable CMM engine to be used by programmers, not as a color management system for final users. I assume people using it are aware lcms can be used to build systems that breaks patents, but lcms per se isn't. Or at least that is what I belive. Humm... If I remember correctly, java does have some similar to lcms in awt, and seems nobody worries about patents on that. Regards, Marti. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kaelbling" <dr...@sg...> To: "Martí Maria" <ma...@li...> Cc: <dr...@sg...> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Kodak patent infringement? > Sorry for the slow response -- it took a while to find the details. All > we really have is FUD from our local Kodak representative, who hinted > that if we don't renew our license with them we *might* be in violation > of US patents 4,500,919 (excluding claim 5) and 5,432,906 if we switched > to lcms. If you could shed any light on this we'd greatly appreciate > it! > > Thanks, > David > > Martí Maria wrote: > > > > > I'm told that Kodak has some patents on color management. Is lcms known > > > to be free of them? > > > > ... > > > > I cannot assure the code is completly completly patent-free, but I have taken > > this issue seriously. If you or anybody does know some portion of code > > breaking any patent, please let me know. I will remove that part or provide > > a workaround as fast as possible. > > -- > David KAELBLING <dr...@sg...> Silicon Graphics Computer Systems > 1 Cabot Rd, suite 250; Hudson, MA 01749 781.839.2157, fax ...2357 > > |
From: Armindo Da S. <tec...@wa...> - 2001-11-14 08:19:42
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Hi Marti, Is there a kylix version planned for LCMS? Any plan to port your lcms demo to 1.08? bye Armindo |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-11-13 15:58:16
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Hi, > So if I undrestand well : > in the first case the result color is the result of a transform between > input and monitor or a specific color (if I use cmsSetAlarmCodes(int r, int > g, int b) if the color is out of gamut of the printer device. > (What I want) > in the second case the the result is the same except the color seen on the > monitor is the same as the one seen on the paper > Yes, that is. It works in such way assuming then you would need only one transform.If you don't give those flags, then the result is the image viewed on monitor. If you give flags and printer profile, you can check the gamut of printer or emulate printer output. Giving no flags and printer profile = NULL is same that cmsCreateTransform(). cmsCreateProofingTransform() is somehow a "superset" of cmsCreateTransform() Regards, Marti. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Armindo Da Silva" <tec...@wa...> To: "Martí Maria" <ma...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Profing > > > - Check gamut to see if a color is reproducible by a device. This always > works > > - Emulate a device. For example: See how will look a image when printed > > whithout printing. Printer profiles has gamut remapping, and thus, could > > change colors. This works only if adequate tag is present. > > So if I undrestand well : > in the first case the result color is the result of a transform between > input and monitor or a specific color (if I use cmsSetAlarmCodes(int r, int > g, int b) if the color is out of gamut of the printer device. > (What I want) > in the second case the the result is the same except the color seen on the > monitor is the same as the one seen on the paper > > > > > > |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-11-13 15:16:54
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Hi, cmsCreateProofingTransform() can do two things - Check gamut to see if a color is reproducible by a device. This always works - Emulate a device. For example: See how will look a image when printed whithout printing. Printer profiles has gamut remapping, and thus, could change colors. This works only if adequate tag is present. By default cmsCreateProofingTransform() does nothing (well, acts as a "normal" transform). Then, including one or both flags you add the desired function on "Proof" profile. cmsCreateProofingTransform uses 3 profiles, one for input, describing the image, one for monitor and a third for the profile being proofed. > is there a tag for ABSOLUTE COLORIMETRIC? No. Is up the CMM to build absolute colorimetric intent using relative colorimetric or perceptual one. If you have access to icSigPreview1Tag or icSigPreview0Tag, you got absolute colorimetric as well. Regards, Marti. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Armindo Da Silva" <tec...@wa...> To: <lcm...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Profing > Marti > > >for target device emulation, add > > cmsFLAGS_SOFTPROOFING. > > What do you mean by this ? > > > > To know if a profile does support softproofing, check the existence of > tags: > > > > icSigPreview0Tag = 0x70726530, /* perceptual */ > > icSigPreview1Tag = 0x70726531, /* relative > colorimetric */ > > icSigPreview2Tag = 0x70726532, /* saturation */ > > is there a tag for ABSOLUTE COLORIMETRIC? > > thanks > > Armindo > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lcms-user mailing list > Lcm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user > > |
From: Armindo Da S. <tec...@wa...> - 2001-11-13 14:48:34
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Marti >for target device emulation, add > cmsFLAGS_SOFTPROOFING. What do you mean by this ? > To know if a profile does support softproofing, check the existence of tags: > > icSigPreview0Tag = 0x70726530, /* perceptual */ > icSigPreview1Tag = 0x70726531, /* relative colorimetric */ > icSigPreview2Tag = 0x70726532, /* saturation */ is there a tag for ABSOLUTE COLORIMETRIC? thanks Armindo |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-11-13 14:03:22
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Hi Armindo, lcms 1.08 does support gamut checking even if no tag is present, this is new in this revision, and still not checked extensively, but seems to work well on my profiles. Proofing as emulating the target device still needs preview tag, and probably will need it on future revisions, since this is a task of the profiler instead of the CMM. To enable gamut checking you need to add cmsFLAGS_GAMUTCHECK on flags when calling cmsCreateProofingTransform(), for target device emulation, add cmsFLAGS_SOFTPROOFING. Note that those flags only works on cmsCreateProofingTransform(), and NOT in normal transforms. To know if a profile does support softproofing, check the existence of tags: icSigPreview0Tag = 0x70726530, /* perceptual */ icSigPreview1Tag = 0x70726531, /* relative colorimetric */ icSigPreview2Tag = 0x70726532, /* saturation */ with cmsIsTag(hProfile, <tag>) If the tag is present, profile does suport emulation. Printer profiles often has such tags. > it seems that the 1.08 works fine with delphi. Great! with this, I hope to be able (finally!) to release both new packages on next week. Thanks for the testing. Best Regards Marti. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Armindo Da Silva" <tec...@wa...> To: <lcm...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:36 AM Subject: [Lcms-user] Profing > Hola Marti, > > I would like to do proofing so a few questions : > > how could I know if a specific profile can alow proofing? > > I would like to make a colorpicker that alow me to select only printable > colors. > > So for this I must know if the printer profile alow proofing. > > Any suggestions for doing this? > > thanks > > Armindo > > > _______________________________________________ > Lcms-user mailing list > Lcm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user > > |
From: Armindo Da S. <tec...@wa...> - 2001-11-13 12:58:27
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Hola Marti, I would like to do proofing so a few questions : how could I know if a specific profile can alow proofing? I would like to make a colorpicker that alow me to select only printable colors. So for this I must know if the printer profile alow proofing. Any suggestions for doing this? thanks Armindo |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-11-12 09:19:11
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Hi, Just place the #include "lcms.h" AFTER #include "stdafx.h" This should work... I got several apps working with MFC without any problem. Hope this helps Martí Maria The little cms project http://www.littlecms.com ma...@li... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maik Wojcieszak" <mw...@wo...> To: <lcm...@li...> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 6:32 AM Subject: [Lcms-user] VC++6 MFC Question Hi, I tried to include lcms in my MFC application and got D:\Programme\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\MFC\INCLUDE\afxv_w32.h(14) : fatal error C1189: #Fehler : WINDOWS.H already included. MFC apps must not #include <windows.h> Fehler beim Ausführen von cl.exe. wRaster.obj - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en) what can I do ( except changing my app a non mfc) regards, maik ------------------------------------------------- Maik Wojcieszak wobe-team (http://www.wobe-team.com) _______________________________________________ Lcms-user mailing list Lcm...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user |
From: Maik W. <mw...@wo...> - 2001-11-11 09:54:51
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Hi, I tried to include lcms in my MFC application and got D:\Programme\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\MFC\INCLUDE\afxv_w32.h(14) : f= atal error C1189: #Fehler : WINDOWS.H already included. MFC apps must = not #include <windows.h> Fehler beim Ausf=FChren von cl.exe. wRaster.obj - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en) what can I do ( except changing my app a non mfc) regards, maik ------------------------------------------------- Maik Wojcieszak wobe-team (http://www.wobe-team.com) |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-11-10 20:22:45
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Hi, I've put the final beta of ver 108 in site. Now the linux package is supposed to be functional. There are two profilers, one for monitor and one for scanner working under Gnome (with Qt) and KDE, as well as a measurement tool. http://www.littlecms.com/ver108.htm If anybody has such platforms (Gnome w/ Qt, KDE or any machine with X11/Qt installed) and want to check, please drop me a note, just to know if it works. Thanks, Best regards, Martí Maria The little cms project http://www.littlecms.com ma...@li... |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-11-07 14:55:42
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Hi Armindo, > any plan to include in lcms the possibility to show the gamut of a = profile in 3D? Not currently. Graeme Gill has a free tool doing this, in his argyll = cms.=20 http://web.access.net.au/argyll/argyllcms.html Unfortunately, argyll is still a work in progress, and his tool only can = dump gamut=20 of forward transforms (scanners) and doesn't work in reverse way = (printers). He is=20 using VRML as a visualization tool.=20 I will add this on my wish-list for incoming revisions. > PS : I have tested lcms with Monaco proof (in this case printer = profile (epson=20 > stylus color 860, CIELab (from spectrocam ) to RGB (printer) ), = impressive result!! Glad to hear, :-) thank you! Best regards, Marti. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Armindo Da Silva=20 To: lcm...@li...=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 4:28 AM Subject: [Lcms-user] Gamut graph Hi Marti, any plan to include in lcms the possibility to show the gamut of a = profile in 3D? PS : I have tested lcms with Monaco proof (in this case printer = profile (epson stylus color 860, CIELab (from spectrocam ) to RGB = (printer) ), impressive result!! thanks Armindo |
From: Armindo Da S. <tec...@wa...> - 2001-11-07 07:49:07
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Hi Marti, any plan to include in lcms the possibility to show the gamut of a = profile in 3D? PS : I have tested lcms with Monaco proof (in this case printer profile = (epson stylus color 860, CIELab (from spectrocam ) to RGB (printer) ), = impressive result!! thanks Armindo |
From: Armindo Da S. <tec...@wa...> - 2001-10-31 16:21:43
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> Most printer profiles does contain ALL intents. With Monaco you can select only one.... > There is a function to know if a open profile does support a = particular intent > > cmsIsIntentSupported() Great!! > Oh! Thanks. Not now, but for shure I will ask your advice for this on future. You will be welcome. bye Armindo |
From: <ma...@li...> - 2001-10-31 16:01:22
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Hi, > >I would try perceptual & saturation, but I guess you will choose > >saturation as your working intent. > > So I suppose that if the profile contains Saturation I must use LCMS with > Saturation also? What happened if I chose another value? Most printer profiles does contain ALL intents. If you choose an intent which is not supported by the profile, lcms reverts to perceptual (that is always supported) There is a function to know if a open profile does support a particular intent cmsIsIntentSupported() > I know how to drive a spectrocam (www.spectrostar.com), if I could help.... Oh! Thanks. Not now, but for shure I will ask your advice for this on future. Best regards, Marti. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Armindo Da Silva" <tec...@wa...> To: <lcm...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:33 AM Subject: [Lcms-user] Need Advice > Hola Marti, > > > >lcms does support the four rendering intents. Also, a single profile can > >contain more than one intent. > > >I would try perceptual & saturation, but I guess you will choose > >saturation as your working intent. > > So I suppose that if the profile contains Saturation I must use LCMS with > Saturation also? What happened if I chose another value? > > > > >Besides, I'm almost ready to release a new revision. This one does > >include scanner & monitor profilers. For printers, it will take a bit more > >time. A preview of new release can be found at www.littlecms.com/ver108.htm > > I know how to drive a spectrocam (www.spectrostar.com), if I could help.... > > thanks > > Armindo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lcms-user mailing list > Lcm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user > > |