ktechlab-devel

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] Documentation for developers?

[kitts <ki...@ho...>]

On Monday 30 January 2006 06:03 IST, David Saxton wrote:
> I setup a wiki at http://wiki.ktechlab.org/ a week ago - it's still being
> tested - so not "officially" released. But it is starting to act as a
> focal point for development, and there are some useful resources there
> for development.

I have looked at the wiki and it is definitely a good start. One of the 
first things that i thought i wanted after trying ktechlab was the ability 
to move wires in the schematic. I was glad to see this in the wiki. To that 
i would like to add that it may not always be desirable to auto route even 
when the component is moved. Ability to just stretch the wires between the 
component and the wires nearest node (bend) should be an option. The auto 
route could mess up and be very frustrating for rather larger more complex 
schematics.

> > I am still hoping to see more and more microcontrollers supported. From
> > what i understand, the ktechlab is designed to accommodate others too,
> > I am interested in knowing how to make this possible. Is there any
> > documentation?
>
> There's no specific documentation (yet) for adding microcontroller
> support. So for information on it, you'll want to start by looking in the
> src/micro/ directory, and (for examples of gpsim integration): at the
> following classes: GpsimProcessor, PICComponent, PICComponentPin.

I shall take a look at the classes. Thanks for the pointers.

> > I hope KTechLab is not too PIC focussed! I would like to see easy
> > possibility to plug-in support for other micros with a common
> > interface. I hope the flow code concept can be supported too.
>
> Nope. It's mostly microcontroller neutral. But adding flowcode support
> for other microcontrollers either involves adding a different
> language-output option for flowcode (i.e. other than microbe), or
> extending microbe to support other microcontrollers.

The way i see it it would rather be better to have differrent language 
output options to flowcode. I don't know how much work this is but output 
in C / C++ can surely attract wider audience. Wonder how efficient would be 
the code it generates but its an attraction.

> > For a learning experience with KDE i could consider working on it when
> > i have the time. If there are any resources out there that can help me
> > get started...
>
> Hopefully the wiki is / will become a good resource :)

Yes! it is pretty good now and can always get better. I am really looking 
forward to this project growing much bigger with extended features.

I have seen on the wiki, the desire to have a component library. That is 
certainly necessary. However, i tend to think that with component libraries 
(hoping that they would be associated footprints eventually), it may be a 
good idea for the many (open source) schematic/PCB projects to have a 
common understanding of the file format used. I know it can be quite 
annoying but it can help reuse. Worth a try negotiating with Kicad and the 
gEDA projects?

KTechLab is more of a simulation system rather than a schematic capture 
hence it does not make much sense in giving the user something like library 
editor to edit and add symbols, but looking into the future a design that 
can later accommodate this would be nice. This with the ability to define 
the simulation model.

Sorry for my over enthusiasm here :-) I am looking forward to KTechlab as a 
complete EDA and more. A replacement for Eagle + VMLab; which are tools 
that i currently use along with the avr-gcc toolchain.
-- 
Cheers!
kitts

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] 16F88 instead of 16F84?

[<de...@on...>]

>I read that the 16F84 is obsolete and replaced by the 16F88.
>http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/16F88.html

I disagree with this guy in one thing: in some places 16F84 is actually c=
heaper
than most other PICs because it's the most common, so the electronic shop=
s
buy it in large quantities. Moreover the newest PICs are difficult to fin=
d.
So, for the small city where I live, located in a country where there is
not electronics industry, the 16F84 is the cheapest choice, and 16F88 is
nonexistent. Of course thanks to Microchip we can request free samples :-=
)

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] simple pic programmer

[<ma...@ha...>]

David Saxton a =E9crit :
> I didn't test all the programmer commands, so some of them may be wrong=
...
>=20
> For now though, you can add new programmer configurations in the "Progr=
ammerr"=20
> page of the settings dialog.

For some reason the configurations are locked, and I can't add new ones.
--
Marc

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] 16F88 instead of 16F84?

[David S. <da...@bl...>]

On Sunday 29 January 2006 23:59, Marc Lavall=E9e wrote:
> I wrote :
> > Another newbie question.
> >
> > I read that the 16F84 is obsolete and replaced by the 16F88.
> > http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/16F88.html
> >
> > Is it possible to use KTechlab for the 16F88?
>
> I can see that it's possible to use the 16f267/8 PICs.
> They are similar to te 16F88.
>
> But are Flowcode and Microbe supporting features like the PWM, UART,
> analog converters, timers, and comparators?

At the moment, Microbe development is quite slow; it's unlikely to gain suc=
h=20
features in the near future.

However, I may add the possibility of exporting flowcode to languages other=
=20
than microbe (such as C for compiling by SDCC).

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] simple pic programmer

[David S. <da...@bl...>]

I didn't test all the programmer commands, so some of them may be wrong...

=46or now though, you can add new programmer configurations in the "Program=
merr"=20
page of the settings dialog.

David

On Sunday 29 January 2006 04:17, Marc Lavall=E9e wrote:
> I need to build 10 copies of this (very simple) PIC programmer :
> http://www.jdm.homepage.dk/easypic.htm
> Is it compatible with picprog? :
> http://www.iki.fi/hyvatti/pic/picprog.html
> Is that the picprog in the "programmer" tab of the configuration window?
> Thanks for your help.
> --
> Marc

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] crashing when clicking

[David S. <da...@bl...>]

On Sunday 29 January 2006 21:47, Marc Lavall=E9e wrote:
> KTechLab (svn version) is often crashing in the circuit view when
> clicking on many components. It happens when in French, but not in
> English. why?

Sorry, I can't reproduce the crash. Nonetheless, the backtrace looks like i=
t=20
is related to getting context help for components. At the moment, the Frenc=
h=20
context help is retrieved via a different method to that for English contex=
t=20
help.

Are you currently translating ktechlab into French? If you have translated =
any=20
of the context help items, then could I have the updated fr.po file, so tha=
t=20
I can extract the context help strings into help-fr file? (as described in=
=20
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=3D9512828&forum_id=
=3D45708).=20
This should hopefully fix the crash.

David

[Ktechlab-devel] Slider behavior for variable components

[Thomas W. <ma...@th...>]

Hi,
I'm not sure, if this problem occurs since you moved my patch for the 
potentiometer slider to the Slider class, but I think the desired behavior 
for variable components is to get the maximum value allways on the right / 
upper slider position.
What I fixed was a special problem of the potentiometer due to it's centre 
tap. Because it's total resistance is split in two parts, in some positions 
the values were assigned to the wrong part.

Regards, Thomas

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] Documentation for developers?

[David S. <da...@bl...>]

I setup a wiki at http://wiki.ktechlab.org/ a week ago - it's still being 
tested - so not "officially" released. But it is starting to act as a focal 
point for development, and there are some useful resources there for 
development.

Also, there is the API documentation at http://ktechlab.org/api/ktechlab/ 
(this needs updating).

On Friday 27 January 2006 15:51, kitts wrote:
> Hi,
> I had once posted to this list appreciating the work that happens. I just
> installed ktechlab and it all seems pretty impressive!
:)

> I am still hoping to see more and more microcontrollers supported. From
> what i understand, the ktechlab is designed to accommodate others too, I am
> interested in knowing how to make this possible. Is there any
> documentation?
There's no specific documentation (yet) for adding microcontroller support. So 
for information on it, you'll want to start by looking in the src/micro/ 
directory, and (for examples of gpsim integration): at the following classes: 
GpsimProcessor, PICComponent, PICComponentPin.

> I hope KTechLab is not too PIC focussed! I would like to see easy
> possibility to plug-in support for other micros with a common interface. I
> hope the flow code concept can be supported too.
Nope. It's mostly microcontroller neutral. But adding flowcode support for 
other microcontrollers either involves adding a different language-output 
option for flowcode (i.e. other than microbe), or extending microbe to 
support other microcontrollers.

> For a learning experience with KDE i could consider working on it when i
> have the time. If there are any resources out there that can help me get
> started...
Hopefully the wiki is / will become a good resource :)

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] 16F88 instead of 16F84?

[<ma...@ha...>]

I wrote :
> Another newbie question.
> 
> I read that the 16F84 is obsolete and replaced by the 16F88.
> http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/16F88.html
> 
> Is it possible to use KTechlab for the 16F88?

I can see that it's possible to use the 16f267/8 PICs.
They are similar to te 16F88.

But are Flowcode and Microbe supporting features like the PWM, UART, 
analog converters, timers, and comparators?
--
Marc

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] Some backtraces...

[David S. <da...@bl...>]

Thanks for the backtraces.

ktechlab-bt1.txt - I've seen this crash a few times before, and have so far 
been unable to find a solution. It seems like it could be a bug with KDE's 
libraries - so I'll replace the code in use (which needs replacing anyway), 
and that should fix it.

ktechlab-bt2.txt - fixed (the bug was introduced recently when adding support 
for european-style logic gates).

David

On Saturday 28 January 2006 14:58, de...@on... wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I was testing Ktechlab from yesterday SVN and it crashed 2 times just
> clicking on the screen. The backtraces are attached.
>
> Thank you for your effort.

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] crashing when clicking

[<ma...@ha...>]

B.T.W., I'm using KDE 3.5.1

Marc Lavall=E9e a =E9crit :
> John Myers a =E9crit :
>=20
>> Can we have a backtrace please? When it crashes, the Dr. Konqi box=20
>> should come up. Please select the 'Backtrace' tab, click the 'Copy'=20
>> button, and paste that into an email.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> (no debugging symbols found)
> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1".
> (no debugging symbols found)
> (no debugging symbols found)
> (no debugging symbols found)
> (no debugging symbols found)
> (no debugging symbols found)
> (no debugging symbols found)
> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> [New Thread -1246984512 (LWP 24507)]
> [KCrash handler]
> #5  0x080f2f8d in QValueList<QCanvasItem*>::detachInternal ()
> #6  0x08267bc0 in ECDiode::construct ()
> #7  0x082685ba in ECDiode::construct ()
> #8  0x0826acf2 in ECNand::construct ()
> #9  0x0826ae3a in ECAnd::construct ()
> #10 0x0809836d in QObject::metaObject ()
> #11 0x08148023 in ContextHelp::staticMetaObject ()
> #12 0x0814898d in ContextHelp::staticMetaObject ()
> #13 0xb630cb57 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so=
.3
> #14 0xb630d0bd in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so=
.3
> #15 0x0814c643 in ComponentSelector::staticMetaObject ()
> #16 0x0814dafb in ComponentSelector::staticMetaObject ()
> #17 0x0814e724 in ComponentSelector::staticMetaObject ()
> #18 0x0814e80b in ComponentSelector::staticMetaObject ()
> #19 0xb630cb57 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so=
.3
> #20 0xb66b2776 in QListView::selectionChanged () from=20
> /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #21 0xb640fd3d in QListView::setCurrentItem () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.s=
o.3
> #22 0xb6413053 in QListView::contentsMousePressEventEx ()
>    from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #23 0xb6413775 in QListView::contentsMousePressEvent ()
>    from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #24 0xb6c421e7 in KListView::contentsMousePressEvent ()
>    from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4
> #25 0xb64434d7 in QScrollView::viewportMousePressEvent ()
>    from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #26 0xb6446187 in QScrollView::eventFilter () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so=
.3
> #27 0xb640a748 in QListView::eventFilter () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #28 0xb6309b52 in QObject::activate_filters () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.s=
o.3
> #29 0xb6309bdb in QObject::event () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #30 0xb6347dcd in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #31 0xb62a2698 in QApplication::internalNotify () from=20
> /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #32 0xb62a2c6b in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #33 0xb6a32fde in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
> #34 0xb6232653 in QApplication::sendSpontaneousEvent ()
>    from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #35 0xb622dae4 in QETWidget::translateMouseEvent ()
>    from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #36 0xb622bdbe in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent () from=20
> /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #37 0xb62458c0 in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.s=
o.3
> #38 0xb62bada2 in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #39 0xb62baccb in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #40 0xb62a1225 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #41 0x082a7af9 in DPImage::construct ()
> #42 0xb5b44ed0 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
> #43 0x08082b11 in ?? ()
>=20
> --=20
> Marc
>=20
>=20
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>=20

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] crashing when clicking

[<ma...@ha...>]

John Myers a =E9crit :
> Can we have a backtrace please? When it crashes, the Dr. Konqi box shou=
ld come=20
> up. Please select the 'Backtrace' tab, click the 'Copy' button, and pas=
te=20
> that into an email.


(no debugging symbols found)
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1".
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread -1246984512 (LWP 24507)]
[KCrash handler]
#5  0x080f2f8d in QValueList<QCanvasItem*>::detachInternal ()
#6  0x08267bc0 in ECDiode::construct ()
#7  0x082685ba in ECDiode::construct ()
#8  0x0826acf2 in ECNand::construct ()
#9  0x0826ae3a in ECAnd::construct ()
#10 0x0809836d in QObject::metaObject ()
#11 0x08148023 in ContextHelp::staticMetaObject ()
#12 0x0814898d in ContextHelp::staticMetaObject ()
#13 0xb630cb57 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#14 0xb630d0bd in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#15 0x0814c643 in ComponentSelector::staticMetaObject ()
#16 0x0814dafb in ComponentSelector::staticMetaObject ()
#17 0x0814e724 in ComponentSelector::staticMetaObject ()
#18 0x0814e80b in ComponentSelector::staticMetaObject ()
#19 0xb630cb57 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#20 0xb66b2776 in QListView::selectionChanged () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.s=
o.3
#21 0xb640fd3d in QListView::setCurrentItem () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.=
3
#22 0xb6413053 in QListView::contentsMousePressEventEx ()
    from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#23 0xb6413775 in QListView::contentsMousePressEvent ()
    from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#24 0xb6c421e7 in KListView::contentsMousePressEvent ()
    from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4
#25 0xb64434d7 in QScrollView::viewportMousePressEvent ()
    from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#26 0xb6446187 in QScrollView::eventFilter () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#27 0xb640a748 in QListView::eventFilter () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#28 0xb6309b52 in QObject::activate_filters () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.=
3
#29 0xb6309bdb in QObject::event () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#30 0xb6347dcd in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#31 0xb62a2698 in QApplication::internalNotify () from=20
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#32 0xb62a2c6b in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#33 0xb6a32fde in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#34 0xb6232653 in QApplication::sendSpontaneousEvent ()
    from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#35 0xb622dae4 in QETWidget::translateMouseEvent ()
    from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#36 0xb622bdbe in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent () from=20
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#37 0xb62458c0 in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.=
3
#38 0xb62bada2 in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#39 0xb62baccb in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#40 0xb62a1225 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#41 0x082a7af9 in DPImage::construct ()
#42 0xb5b44ed0 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#43 0x08082b11 in ?? ()

--
Marc

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] crashing when clicking

[John M. <ele...@el...>]

On Sunday 29 January 2006 13:47, Marc Lavall=E9e wrote:
> KTechLab (svn version) is often crashing in the circuit view when
> clicking on many components. It happens when in French, but not in
> English. why?
> --
> Marc
Can we have a backtrace please? When it crashes, the Dr. Konqi box should c=
ome=20
up. Please select the 'Backtrace' tab, click the 'Copy' button, and paste=20
that into an email.
=2D-=20
#=20
# electronerd, the electronerdian from electronerdia
#

[Ktechlab-devel] crashing when clicking

[<ma...@ha...>]

KTechLab (svn version) is often crashing in the circuit view when 
clicking on many components. It happens when in French, but not in 
English. why?
--
Marc

[Ktechlab-devel] picprog

[<ma...@ha...>]

I wrote:
> http://www.iki.fi/hyvatti/pic/picprog.html
> Is that the picprog in the "programmer" tab of the configuration window?

It looks like the right software, but the command options in the 
"programmer" tab are not exactly compatible with it. So where can I find 
the correct version of picprog to use with KTechLab?
--
Marc

[Ktechlab-devel] 16F88 instead of 16F84?

[<ma...@ha...>]

Another newbie question.

I read that the 16F84 is obsolete and replaced by the 16F88.
http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/16F88.html

Is it possible to use KTechlab for the 16F88?
--
Marc

[Ktechlab-devel] simple pic programmer

[<ma...@ha...>]

I need to build 10 copies of this (very simple) PIC programmer :
http://www.jdm.homepage.dk/easypic.htm
Is it compatible with picprog? :
http://www.iki.fi/hyvatti/pic/picprog.html
Is that the picprog in the "programmer" tab of the configuration window?
Thanks for your help.
--
Marc

[Ktechlab-devel] Some backtraces...

[<de...@on...>]

Hello.

I was testing Ktechlab from yesterday SVN and it crashed 2 times just cli=
cking
on the screen. The backtraces are attached.

Thank you for your effort.

[Ktechlab-devel] ktechlabui.rc missing </Menu>

[<de...@on...>]

Hello KTechlab developers.

'Make install' fails because there is a </Menu> missing in ktechlabui.rc
in today SVN. Please fix it.

Thank you.

[Ktechlab-devel] Documentation for developers?

[kitts <ki...@ho...>]

Hi,
I had once posted to this list appreciating the work that happens. I just 
installed ktechlab and it all seems pretty impressive!

I am still hoping to see more and more microcontrollers supported. From what 
i understand, the ktechlab is designed to accommodate others too, I am 
interested in knowing how to make this possible. Is there any 
documentation?

I hope KTechLab is not too PIC focussed! I would like to see easy 
possibility to plug-in support for other micros with a common interface. I 
hope the flow code concept can be supported too.

It would even be great to extend KTechLab to develop PCBs. This may be 
possible with the HID project of PCB (http://www.delorie.com/pcb/).

For a learning experience with KDE i could consider working on it when i 
have the time. If there are any resources out there that can help me get 
started...
-- 
Cheers!
kitts

P.S. I am not a subscriber to this list as yet. Hence i request any replies 
to be copied to kitts at hotpop.com as well.

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Re: [Ktechlab-devel] Context Help

[David S. <da...@bl...>]

I committed some code to SVN a couple of hours ago, which parses the HTML 
code, looking for anchor tags, then looks at the url in the anchor tags and 
colors it in or adds an image after it, depending on the type of link:

* Links to non-existant help now use the colour red, aka wikipedia-style.
* External links now use that wikipedia icon
* Links to local files use the icon that the user has globally associated with 
that mimetype (e.g. a link to an example circuit will have the ktechlab 
circuit icon after it).

So there's no need to add <img src=external.png> after each link.

Also, I have thought about the problem of external links possibly going dead 
or getting moved after the help has been released in a ktechlab release, and 
I think there is a simple solution:

The help HTML contains the url pointing at the external location - but the 
context-help viewer changes the url to something like 
"http://ktechlab.org/redirect.php?external_url". The "redirect.php" page will 
normally just forward the user straight to the site, but if the link goes 
dead at some point, then the redirect.php page can use a url 
substitution-table to replace bad urls with good ones.

On Wednesday 25 January 2006 22:28, Thomas Winkel wrote:
> If you give me a svn account I can commit the first version soon.
Sure - email me with a username and password.

> How to handle new files like images? Will I have to add them to the
> KDevelop project in order to make them known for "make install"?

To add an image (in the src/contexthelp/ directory, for example), you would 
need to edit the "contexthelp_DATA" line in src/contexthelp/Makefile.am. So 
if you wanted to install an image called "opamp.png", you would add it to the 
end of the line, making it look something like:

contexthelp_DATA = help-en_US help-it help-de opamp.png

Then, you just need to run "make" and "make install" to install the new file.

David.

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] Context Help

[Thomas W. <ma...@th...>]

Am Dienstag 24 Januar 2006 17:52 schrieb David Saxton:
> (that's what happens when I try and multitask by eating cornflakes at the
> same time as replying to emails :p ).

Beware, crumbs in the keyboard is a serious matter!! :)

> I've been thinking about where to store the changes. I think that the
> directory should be explicitly specified, instead of ktechlab trying to
> guess where to put them? How does attempting to write
> to /usr/share/apps/ktechlab/contexthelp/, and if that fails, it requests a
> directory location?

Asking for a location is a good idea, also in terms of usability because then 
a user directly knows where to find his writings.
I wouldn't try to overwrite the original file because of three points:
- by using a different file it is allways possible to restore to defaults by 
simply deleting it.
- A "desktop user" may be overstrained to find his changes in file system.
- When he sends his writings to the list, it's easier for us, if the file 
contains only his changes.

> That icon looks good - is it released under a GPL-compatible license?
> Or some appropriate license for distributing with ktechlab?

I'm sure it is, and I used it now. Wikipedia has created an extra stylesheet 
class to handle external links, but my html knowledge is not good enough for 
such things. Now I have an <img src=external.png> after each link.

> > When the user clicks on such a link, which has not been described so far,
> > the "This help item does not yet exist..." message should appear, such
> > that he can create it. Maybe such links can be marked red like in
> > Wikipedia. Great would be an option to create a link of a keyword which
> > needs further description in the editor.
> Good ideas.

Will I have to do something in the html code, or can KTechlab handle all this?

> I'm happy to tidy up any English text you enter. So short texts should just
> be fine - I'll expand any necessary sections.
I'll see what I can do, but at present I'm very busy with my diploma thesis 
and writing English text takes me much more time than German.

If you give me a svn account I can commit the first version soon.
How to handle new files like images? Will I have to add them to the KDevelop 
project in order to make them known for "make install"?

Thomas

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] Bug in flip flop?

[David S. <da...@bl...>]

Thanks for the bug report. As Thomas says, the D and JK flipflops should 
either be rising-edge triggered, or drawn with a circle on the clock pin.

I've added configurability for the edge-trigger in SVN. The flipflops now draw 
a circle on their clock pins if they are configured as falling-edge 
triggered.

David

On Wednesday 25 January 2006 12:06, asraniel wrote:
> i use ktechlab for school, and were are just learning how to use the D Flip
> Flip. My question, the D Flip Flop should be active if the clock goes up
> (steigende flanke in german) but as far as i can see it in ktechlab it is
> active on the down of the clock (sinkende flanke in german).
>
> and also the description "The output state is set from the input state when
> the clock is pulsed."  tells me that it should be active if the clock goes
> up..
>
> im using ktechlab 0.3

Re: [Ktechlab-devel] Bug in flip flop?

[Thomas W. <ma...@th...>]

You're right, the D-state should be taken with the rising clock edge. Or, in 
the actual configuration the clock entrance has to be inverted with a small 
circle. The same for the JK flipflop so far as I can see.

P.S.
The correct English translations are:
"rising edge" and "falling edge" ;)