From: Jim B. <jba...@ce...> - 2001-10-11 19:20:05
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Hi again. Thanks for the replies regarding qt3. I was just perusing the kde-devel list and noticed KOnCd is attempting to get pushed into the KDE CVS tree. Like I mentioned in my previous post, I feel both KreateCD and KOnCD are great apps ... however .. do we need 2? Do you think it would be possible to attempt to merge these 2 projects before either of them takes off too far? Maybe more of a merge of resources and ideas... It would be a shame to have either one die off if the other gets included into KDE proper, or a shame to duplicate resources if there isn't a good reason. I also realize choice is good and sometimes there is a need for more than one application for a given function ... so if this is the belief here that's a very valid answer to my question. No harm, no foul. Just curious ... please don't take this as flame bait. Jim Basilio |
From: Joseph W. <jo...@bi...> - 2001-10-12 08:01:03
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Hi I can't speak for the others, the following is MY OWN opinion > > Do you think it would be possible to attempt to merge these 2 projects > before either of them takes off too far? Maybe more of a merge of > resources and ideas... Perhaps we can exchange informations, ideas, ...., but I think KreateCD will and should stay an application of its own, if the KOnCD author would like to contribute to KreateCD, I have no problems. (Perhaps we should ask him) > > It would be a shame to have either one die off if the other gets included > into KDE proper, or a shame to duplicate resources if there isn't a good > reason. > We lived and will live quite well without being in KDE-CVS, one advantage of the current way is, that we don't have to obey the KDE release/feature freeze dates. That was one of the reasons, why we didn't put it there (at least for me) > I also realize choice is good and sometimes there is a need for more than > one application for a given function ... so if this is the belief here > that's a very valid answer to my question. No harm, no foul. > > Yes choice is always a good thing. I think open source projects should exchange as much help / information / code as possible, but I hate the idea of only one application for a specific task, because then development will finally stop or become slower, because there is no need for improvements, if there is no competitor. Kind regards Joseph Wenninger |
From: Alexander F. <Ale...@gm...> - 2001-10-12 10:57:09
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Am Fre, 2001-10-12 um 10.01 schrieb 1002873704: > Hi > > I can't speak for the others, the following is MY OWN opinion > > > > > Do you think it would be possible to attempt to merge these 2 projects > > before either of them takes off too far? Maybe more of a merge of > > resources and ideas... > > Perhaps we can exchange informations, ideas, ...., but I think KreateCD will > and should stay an application of its own, if the KOnCD author would like to > contribute to KreateCD, I have no problems. (Perhaps we should ask him) > Even if he wants to contribute to KreateCD, I think he will never give up KOnCD. KreateCD and KOnCD are very different projects. The developers of KOnCD probably have similar reasons not to "give up" KOnCD like we. I think there is place for both of them. If there is any code in KOnCD we could use - we should use them. If we have problems - it is a good idea to look into KOnCD's source code to see how they have solved it. The KOnCD developers are welcome to do the same. > > > > It would be a shame to have either one die off if the other gets included > > into KDE proper, or a shame to duplicate resources if there isn't a good > > reason. > > > > We lived and will live quite well without being in KDE-CVS, one advantage of > the current way is, that we don't have to obey the KDE release/feature freeze > dates. That was one of the reasons, why we didn't put it there (at least for > me) > This is the main reason for me too. We could gain popularity if we are in main KDE and have more bug fixers and contributors. But if KreateCD is good, people will use it anyway - even if KOnCD is already installed on their computer - like they don't use Windows for this although it was already installed on their computer before. If there is no one who likes KreateCD better than KOnCD - why should we force anybody to use KreateCD? > > > I also realize choice is good and sometimes there is a need for more than > > one application for a given function ... so if this is the belief here > > that's a very valid answer to my question. No harm, no foul. > > > > > > Yes choice is always a good thing. I think open source projects should > exchange as much help / information / code as possible, but I hate the idea > of only one application for a specific task, because then development will > finally stop or become slower, because there is no need for improvements, if > there is no competitor. > I agree with this. Different people need different applications. The look and feel of KOnCD and KreateCD are really different. They probably have very different concepts too. If I would be new to Linux and if I would have the choice to use KOnCD or start coding another CD recording front end - I would start coding immediately. This is exactly the reason why I started to code KreateCD. Competition is good and makes every single competitor better and better. Alexander Feigl |