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Re: [Kdenlive-devel] critique of 0.7.2.1
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From: aia8v <ai...@vi...> - 2009-02-15 15:09:10
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thanks for readying my suggestions. after writing them i realized that at least two of them are incorrect. - the group select by dragging a box works - the undock frame works sorry for not testing out the new kdenlive enough to realize these features. my kdenlive is very laggy when doing simple things, such as resizing gui or dragging clips around and i did not notice the dragging option to select a group of clips (thanks for keeping it in there!) as far as teh speed issue goes. my version is prohibitively slow. i am running debian and have the package from debian-multimedia.org. i might try the svn to see if that helps. also just to reiterate, quick volume and brightness(for fade in and out) would be nice to have. thanks a lot! alex Slavko Glamoc(anin wrote: > This seems like a great questionare for the FAQ. > > To summarize, the feature requests are: > - zoom be y axis (height) > - hard grouping of clips (lock clips, not just to be able to select > them as a group you can now) > - cache + proxy support > - keyframe framework for automation of effects/events > > You also seem to have a OS related problem, i can playback raw m2t @ > 1920x1080 25p without problems even with effects, and it seems to > affect your rendering too. > > Enjoy, > Slavko > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 3:10 PM, aia8v <ai...@vi... > <mailto:ai...@vi...>> wrote: > > im not sure if this kind of feedback is wanted or if this is the > right place to deliver it, but here are my thoughts on the newest > version of kdenlive. > > > *Background* > > I am a linux user who has been waiting for a decent video editor, > comparable to final cut and premier, for a long time. kdenlive is, > in my opinion, the only editor for linux which comes close. > > the 0.7.2.1 release shows awesome improvement, but a few very > essential features are missing/removed from kdenlive. because i > enjoy this software so much i thought i would give some feedback > to the developers. most of my editing needs are short clips put to > audio/music and put on the web, basically the average youtube user. > > * > * > > *Problems/suggestions* > > from my experience editing the multi-track frame is where all the > work is done, and this part of the editor is vital for the program > to be useful. the general multi-track editing is similar in all > track -editing programs, but there are a few essential features > which i think have been left out of kdenlive which really hurt its > usability. The most common operations should have functional > precedence and from my experience, volume control and fading are > the two most common operations. i find these very hard to do in > kdenlive. > > volume control and fading > -the way kdenlive adjusts clip volume is painful. i expect most > people want to adjust the volume of an entire clip. > this should be easy, like just dragging up and down on the clip > with a modifier key maybe. > - adjusting brightness,(luminosity) is basically the same function > to video as volume is to sound and should be > done in a similar way. (like a modifier key and drag to move the > brightness level for the whole clip. and if > more soffisticated curve is needed have a pen tool (double click > to make points) much like final cut or premier. > > Brightness can be edited by adding the brightness plugin (and you get > a nice line on the video clip itself to manipulate) > > > > group selection > -the group clip select seems to be left out. The drag box over > multiple clips or shift left-click feature is essential. > it seems to be replaced by the spacer tool, which i think is a bad > decision and makes it much slower to use. > > > multitrack editor zooming > -the multitrack frame could use hot-key zooming in both > x-axis(time) and y-axis(track height). this is really > useful when lining up transitions to audio waveforms and detail in > the waveform needed, or when using a > pen tool to make a complicated curve for volume or some effect. > > > features/tools > -I would prefer all features, or most all features, with hot-key > modifies in one tool. (and maybe have other > tools for specific functions for those who want it.) > > > the new version is extremely slow when rendering. > -even with no effect my clips play with some chop (720x640@30fps), > i am using the automatic video driver (could > there be a gl driver like mplayer has?) > -also, the render-out functionality i thought was like in final > cut or premier, to render transitions and what not to a > cache so playback is smooth. > > > video effects > - i think simple video effects (flip, color(enhance,adjust), > slow-mo, crop/resize) should be easier to get to than the other ones. > also premier has an awesome function that all settings on all > effects are animatable(adjust with time). i dont know > how easy this would be to impliment but its very powerful. > > > render out > -the render out interface is awesome, but most of the videos it > rendered did not work (couldnet even play in mplayer) i know > this is a complex issue and needs to be troubleshot before i can > give you useful feedback. right now i just use uncrompressed > output and compress with ffmpeg. > > > > conclusion > kdenlive is awesome, and i love using it. unfortanatly there are > some features which are very hard to use and these happen to > be the most important features, at least for me. common features > in both other major editors(finalcut and premier) are probably > good ones that most people like and i would like to see them > implemented in kdenlive. > i hope you all continue to improve kdenlive and my suggestions are > helpful. > > thanks a lot for all your efforts! > > alex > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San > Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source > code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > <mailto:Kde...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > |
