RE: [Jython-users] Where is Good guide to Jython??

[Guy Gascoigne-P. <gg...@tr...>]

I have to say that I like "Jython for Java Programmers" a lot.  It assumes
that you know Java and don't really know Python - which fit me pretty well
:-)  There is a good chunk of jython introduction, enough to get you started
though I'd still recommend getting something such as "Python Essential
Reference" by David Beazley which is also very good.

The part that I really liked in this book is the information on integrating
Jython as an embedded script interpreter.  I'm doing that right now and have
found that this book as saved me a lot of time, good examples and useful
explanations.  For me, this part alone would justify buying the book.  The
bulk of the book deals with issues to do with integrating java and jython,
how to extend one with the other.

Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jiger Patel [mailto:jig...@ho...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:38 PM
To: jyt...@li...
Subject: Re: [Jython-users] Where is Good guide to Jython??

Hi Mats,
        Could you tell me what all is covered in Robert's book 'Jython for 
Java Programmer'. Is is worth a buy, Does it cover topics from begineers to 
Advance. I dont want any intro on Java. But definately need good groundup on

python/jython. If it covers good topics on jython then I would definately 
think of buying one. also if any one could give a similar review on 'Jython 
Essentials' by O'Reilly.

Thanks & Awaiting ur replies,
Jiger




>From: Mats Wichmann <ma...@la...>
>To: Terry Hancock <ha...@an...>
>CC: jyt...@li...
>Subject: Re: [Jython-users] Where is Good guide to Jython??
>Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:48:10 -0700
>
>At 01:31 PM 1/26/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >dman wrote:
> >> experience.  Jython _is_ python -- it is an implementation of the
> >> python language and much of the standard library.  The docs on
> >> jython's web site are to alert people to the differences between
> >> cpython and jython and to introduce the special features (javabean
> >> support).
> >
> >O'Reilly is coming out with "Jython Essentials" in March,
> >I'm hoping that will be good.
>
>Don't discount Robert Bill's book.  I got an advance copy (electronic)
>and just had a chance to glance at it before life got busy, and it
>didn't seem anything special.  But now that I'm going through the
>printed book in detail, I'm very impressed.
>
> >IMHO, based on what I've seen on the jython site, experience
> >with Java is assumed, and Python is taught. I'd REALLY like
> >to see something from the opposite perspective, if any of
> >you folks have the ability/inclination to write it. As a
> >Python programmer, the attraction of Jython is being able
> >to run Python code in new places, such as in-browser applets,
> >and rapidly-installable applications on client computers.
>
>Well, I was in talks to do a Jython book a number of months
>back.  The project ended up having its wings fall off (permanently,
>I won't be competing with the two current books), but we
>did examine in considerable detail what the markets might be.
>My prospective publisher was not convinced that marketing a
>book as "Java for Python programmers" would fly at all, while
>"Python for Java programmers" might have some chance.  Since
>nobody's offering to pay for it, I'm not going to be writing
>either title!
>
>Some folks have tried to kick off a collaborative effort to
>develop some tutorials.  I thought I was going to participate,
>but as I said, things got busy.  If you're interested in
>pitching Jython as a kinder, gentler, approach to using Java,
>you could try - I think a discussion wiki is already set up.
>Maybe the time is right now, where it apparently wasn't last
>go-round.
>
>Good luck,
>
>Mats
>
>
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