Re: [Jython-dev] funding jython development

[Tobias K. <jy...@to...>]

  Hi Jeff and James,

Thank you very much for the positive feedback, and getting the  
opportunity to add a link to your webpage.  I really appreciate it!

Concerning Python 3, that has not been that much of an issue, to be  
honest.  I found that one of the most important things was to have  
Python-3-division (where / always returns a float and // is used for  
integer division), which is already supported by Jython out of the  
box.  Other changes like having a dialog box come up for user input  
were quite easy to put in, and these things do not have that much to  
do with what version of Python you are using.

With TigerJython's increase in popularity, the request for Python 3  
has started to sporadically come up, and I think it would be a good  
and important way forward.  But at the time being it is not that big  
of a deal for us, yet.

Unfortunately, a much bigger concern has recently been that more and  
more schools are using tablets with no support for Java whatsoever.   
This means that we had to create an additional browser-based version,  
which at least offers the same basic functionality (however, we have  
no intentions of dropping our Jython-based system).

Cheers,
Tobias

Quoting Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...>:

> Tobias:
>
> This looks really good. Congratulations. I have faced the same  
> problem but didn't know about TigerJython.
>
> I'm pleased we played a part. I only wish we could have a had a  
> Python 3 for you.
>
> Jeff Allen
>
> On 12/03/2019 15:45, Tobias Kohn wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> As I am a research associate at the computer laboratory in  
>> Cambridge, I would also be interested in collaborating on a project  
>> to move Jython forward within an academic setting.
>>
>> /> Also, it's always interesting to hear what people are doing with  
>> Jython, where it provides a unique advantage, both your work and in  
>> Fiji./
>>
>> On the danger of going slightly off topic, may I add that I have  
>> found Jython to be a great and outstandingly helpful tool in my  
>> work, too.  While I was teaching programming in high schools, I  
>> found Python to be a superb language, while IDLE and Python's  
>> standard packages were quite limited and limiting.  Since I was not  
>> allowed to install any software on the computers, but could run a  
>> Java application, I turned to Jython and built an education  
>> programming environment "TigerJython" on top of Jython [1, 2].  My  
>> initial "hack" turned into a PhD thesis and quickly gained large  
>> popularity in Switzerland.  It is by now one of the most frequently  
>> used programming environment in schools, and is being adopted in  
>> other countries as well.
>>
>> Indeed, the easy integration with Java turned out to be an  
>> essential feature and great asset, as it allowed to continue using  
>> libraries formerly designed for Java.  This also led to a  
>> collaboration where we used Jython as a basis for music-based  
>> programming [3].
>>
>> So, yes, Jython is really great work and extremely useful. Thank you all!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Tobias Kohn
>>
>> [1] http://jython.tobiaskohn.ch/
>> [2] https://tobiaskohn.ch/index.php/research/research-tigerjython/
>> [3] https://jythonmusic.me/
>
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