Re: [Jython-users] the health of Jython

[Matt R. <mjr...@gm...>]

I also implemented this stack for my work's automated test runs, but with
python robot. I have noticed though the robot python packages running
exceptionally slow on (aws) centos. I wanted to know if others ever
encountered such an issue?

On 19 Sep 2016 12:48 a.m., "Adam Burke" <ada...@gm...> wrote:

> We use it this way, but in different apps. A django web app which is
> CPython and BDD testing for Java applications using Robot + Jython.
>
> Adam
>
> 在 17 Sep 2016，3:03 PM，Matt Rutherford <mjr...@gm...> 写道：
>
> I'd be interested in hearing the various use cases people have for python
> that made them opt for 'both' as opposed to purely python or Java?
>
> On 17 Sep 2016 2:42 a.m., "Jon Christopher" <jon...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>> I love jython and use it frequently, and have over 3 decades of
>> programming experience----so not quite a newbie.
>>
>> Jython works like magic for the most part but the integration is so slick
>> sometimes I forget which platform I'm on.  The Java objects start looking
>> like python objects and vice versa (which is the whole point, after all),
>> but it can be a bit confusing---even though it all just works.
>>
>> So...I'm willing to cut the newbies some slack on their confusion here.
>>
>> -Jon
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Adam Burke <ada...@gm...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It doesn't, of course - it looks like a  reaction from a beginner who
>>> hasn't learnt to contextually separate a language from the platform
>>> surrounding it.
>>>
>>> It might speak to the need for clearer doco entry points, though. The
>>> dominance (and usefulness) of stackoverflow for new programmers is also
>>> interesting. Because the foundation of jython predates it, there's not as
>>> much of a community around Jython there, that I've seen.
>>>
>>> We made the wiki closed to anon edits because of nasty spam problems,
>>> but contributors are very welcome - just ask on this mailing list.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> > 在 17 Sep 2016，8:32 AM，Michael Chisholm <chi...@mi...> 写道：
>>> >
>>> > On 9/16/2016 1:13 PM, Guzdial, Mark wrote:
>>> >>> Apparently a lot of new programmers are being introduced to
>>> programming through CPython ... shouldn't the poor kids be learning Jython
>>> instead?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Actually, many of the students at University who are learning Python
>>> are actually learning Jython.  The textbook that Barbara Ericson and I
>>> wrote uses Jython: https://www.amazon.com/Introdu
>>> ction-Computing-Programming-Python-4th/dp/0134025547.  Last I saw
>>> market analysis, it's the third most popular Python University textbook, at
>>> least in the US.  If you read the reviews for the book, you'll see that
>>> lots of people are confused about Jython vs. Python.  Quoting one:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> This book is a prescribed text for a course: that's the only reason
>>> to buy it. Its biggest problem: false advertising. This is NOT a book on
>>> Python, it's about JYTHON - A Java based imitation of Python.
>>> >> Why? Well, there's some pretty software, available to download, which
>>> uses the the JRE. The author chose to stick with this "easy learning
>>> environment" and basically cripple anyone wanting to write Python code for
>>> Blender, Maya, Android etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> You may learn to program from this text, but don't expect a
>>> trouble-free life when you get exposed to the real language.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> The IDE that we wrote for the book, JES, is all Jython, and has been
>>> used by thousands of students for over a decade now: See
>>> http://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/205801-14-years-of-a-lea
>>> rner-centered-python-ide/fulltext
>>> >
>>> > So I'll just ask the obvious: CPython and Jython are supposed to be
>>> > alternative implementations of the same language, Python.  IronPython
>>> is
>>> > another.  How does a different implementation imply a different
>>> language?
>>> >
>>> > Andy
>>> >
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