From: Jim B. <jb...@zy...> - 2010-02-19 20:22:00
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We are having two bird-of-a-feather sessions for Jython tonight (Fri 7pm) and tomorrow (Sat 6pm) here at PyCon in the open space. Here are just some of the topics for us to discuss: Future work on 2.6, 3.x Clamp (covers most of what is missing from jythonc) Outstanding bugs Performance Targets - Android, applet Frameworks Missing 2.5 functionality - ctypes, bzip, etc. Documentation/web site Incorporation of the Jython book Update core Python library docs for Jython-related changes And of course, socialize! - Jim |
From: Philip J. <pj...@un...> - 2010-02-20 02:15:43
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On Feb 19, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Jim Baker wrote: > We are having two bird-of-a-feather sessions for Jython tonight (Fri 7pm) and tomorrow (Sat 6pm) here at PyCon in the open space. Here are just some of the topics for us to discuss: > > Future work on 2.6, 3.x > Clamp (covers most of what is missing from jythonc) > Outstanding bugs > Performance > Targets - Android, applet > Frameworks > Missing 2.5 functionality - ctypes, bzip, etc. > Documentation/web site > Incorporation of the Jython book > Update core Python library docs for Jython-related changes > > And of course, socialize! I'm not at PyCon, but I think we should do a 2.5.2 release soon. Hopefully you all can float that topic around a bit. -- Philip Jenvey |
From: Frank W. <fwi...@gm...> - 2010-02-22 22:04:33
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Philip Jenvey <pj...@un...> wrote: > I'm not at PyCon, but I think we should do a 2.5.2 release soon. Hopefully you all can float that topic around a bit. Late to this conversation -- but I think 2.5.2 needs to come out very soon as well. I was waiting on the java-integration branch, but I think it is just about time to call it pencils down/clean up for a release time for 2.5.2 and look for java-integration merging in 2.6. -Frank |
From: Alan K. <jyt...@xh...> - 2010-02-20 15:14:50
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[Jim] > We are having two bird-of-a-feather sessions for Jython tonight (Fri 7pm) > and tomorrow (Sat 6pm) here at PyCon in the open space. Here are just some > of the topics for us to discuss: Hi to all. I'm sorry I can't be at PyCon this year, and wish you all the best for a successful conference. I'd be delighted to read any reports of how the BoF sessions went. Regards, Alan. |
From: Josh J. <jun...@gm...> - 2010-02-20 15:46:31
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All- I'm very upset that I couldn't make it either. I also would be happy to read any notes that came out of the BoF sessions. If you get around to discussing the web site and/or integration of the Jython book, I'd definitely be happy to help out with adjustments or changes that are agreed upon. I think that we should make direct links in the Jython documentation to certain parts of the book. I also think that we can include some direct links to hot topics in the book from within the "Using Jython" section on the front page of jython.org...any thoughts? Lastly, I have a vested interest in the clamp project/proxy classes, etc. If there is anything I can do to help make it move forward then I'd be happy to hear about it. Enjoy the conference. Best Josh Juneau jun...@gm... http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com http://www.jythonpodcast.com Twitter ID: javajuneau On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Alan Kennedy <jyt...@xh...> wrote: > [Jim] > > We are having two bird-of-a-feather sessions for Jython tonight (Fri 7pm) > > and tomorrow (Sat 6pm) here at PyCon in the open space. Here are just > some > > of the topics for us to discuss: > > Hi to all. > > I'm sorry I can't be at PyCon this year, and wish you all the best for > a successful conference. > > I'd be delighted to read any reports of how the BoF sessions went. > > Regards, > > Alan. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Jython-users mailing list > Jyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-users > |
From: Leo S. M. <leo...@gm...> - 2010-02-20 19:19:51
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On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Alan Kennedy <jyt...@xh...> wrote: > [Jim] >> We are having two bird-of-a-feather sessions for Jython tonight (Fri 7pm) >> and tomorrow (Sat 6pm) here at PyCon in the open space. Here are just some >> of the topics for us to discuss: > > Hi to all. > > I'm sorry I can't be at PyCon this year, and wish you all the best for > a successful conference. > > I'd be delighted to read any reports of how the BoF sessions went. +1 to everything Alan said! [Plus I'm trying to get a revenge by attending EuroPython this year, but still not sure it will be possible] -- Leo Soto M. http://blog.leosoto.com |
From: Alan K. <jyt...@xh...> - 2010-02-20 19:40:41
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[Leo] > [Plus I'm trying to get a revenge by attending EuroPython this year, > but still not sure it will be possible] Well, if you're going to make it as far as Birmingham UK for Europython, then you'll have to consider attending the first ever PyCon Ireland(!), which happens the Saturday before Europython, July 17th. It's only a one day conference, but we're sure it's going to be good! Web page details to follow. Regards, Alan. |
From: Jim B. <jb...@zy...> - 2010-02-21 16:33:43
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Alan, Thanks for bringing up PyCon Ireland. At this point, there's a very good chance I will be attending EuroPython, and if so, I will definitely attend PyCon Ireland too! Tobias Ivarsson and I are thinking of expanding the talk on Python performance optimization I did for the San Francisco meetup into a tutorial, and I'm sure I would be interesting in doing something on Jython too. In other news, we had a great open space session on Jython last night, followed by a repeat of the open space we did at the Summer of Code mentors summit, "How to Implement a Python". We had developers from IronPython, Unladen Swallow, and of course Jython discussing internals with interested users (and perhaps future contributors). Also at the PSF members dinner last night, Wesley Chun, author of a number of Python books, brought in the first paper copy of The Definitive Guide to Jython we had seen. Frank Wierzbicki and I both signed it. It was simply a great feeling! Tomorrow we will be starting sprints on Jython. There seems to be a developing consensus that we should start work on getting out a 2.6 earlier (and pushing some of the 2.5.x work into it too, much like IronPython did). In part, this would help open up opportunities for new people to contribute. Simply put, there's a much lower barrier of entry for writing a Java implementation of a new module in 2.6 than some of the other work we have been doing for 2.5.x; see http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.6.html for some of the scope of the work. It's a long list, but it helps that it's never been better documented. This should also also be very helpful for the Summer of Code program. Readers on this list: if you are or you know a university student who has strong Java skills and loves Python, please be sure to apply. Relevant deadlines from http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline- March 18, students begin discussing opportunities with us, and April 9, applications are due. - Jim On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Alan Kennedy <jyt...@xh...> wrote: > [Leo] > > [Plus I'm trying to get a revenge by attending EuroPython this year, > > but still not sure it will be possible] > > Well, if you're going to make it as far as Birmingham UK for > Europython, then you'll have to consider attending the first ever > PyCon Ireland(!), which happens the Saturday before Europython, July > 17th. > > It's only a one day conference, but we're sure it's going to be good! > > Web page details to follow. > > Regards, > > Alan. > -- Jim Baker jb...@zy... |
From: Leo S. M. <leo...@gm...> - 2010-02-23 03:08:05
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On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Alan Kennedy <jyt...@xh...> wrote: > [Leo] >> [Plus I'm trying to get a revenge by attending EuroPython this year, >> but still not sure it will be possible] > > Well, if you're going to make it as far as Birmingham UK for > Europython, then you'll have to consider attending the first ever > PyCon Ireland(!), which happens the Saturday before Europython, July > 17th. That sounds *very* tempting. > It's only a one day conference, but we're sure it's going to be good! > > Web page details to follow. I look forward for those details and to be able to attend both conferences! Thanks for bringing up that info. Regards, -- Leo Soto M. http://blog.leosoto.com |
From: Alex G. <ale...@ne...> - 2010-02-22 22:08:51
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23.2.2010 0:04, Frank Wierzbicki kirjoitti: > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Philip Jenvey<pj...@un...> wrote: > >> I'm not at PyCon, but I think we should do a 2.5.2 release soon. Hopefully you all can float that topic around a bit. >> > Late to this conversation -- but I think 2.5.2 needs to come out very > soon as well. I was waiting on the java-integration branch, but I > think it is just about time to call it pencils down/clean up for a > release time for 2.5.2 and look for java-integration merging in 2.6. > > Does this mean that the proxy generation hooks won't make it into 2.5.2? > -Frank > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Jython-users mailing list > Jyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-users > |
From: Frank W. <fwi...@gm...> - 2010-02-22 22:25:49
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2010/2/22 Alex Grönholm <ale...@ne...>: > Does this mean that the proxy generation hooks won't make it into 2.5.2? It looks bad for proxy gen. Charlie Groves is too busy right now to get the java-integration branch in (a prereq for proxy gen hooks), and he's the ideal person to do it. I thought about trying, but I'm worried that it's late in the cycle for me to read the changes and get them in without breaking 2.5.2. I will probably be the one to take on the java-integration branch merge in 2.6, since 2.6 can take a bit longer to finish and I'll have more time to safely pull it in. -Frank |
From: Josh J. <jun...@gm...> - 2010-02-22 23:03:00
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Frank- I'd like to lend a hand with the Java integration if needed. I agree that 2.5.2 should be released sooner than later...so if you need help with Java integration targeted for the 2.6 release, count me in for some assistance. Josh Juneau jun...@gm... http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com http://www.jythonpodcast.com Twitter ID: javajuneau 2010/2/22 Frank Wierzbicki <fwi...@gm...> > 2010/2/22 Alex Grönholm <ale...@ne...>: > > Does this mean that the proxy generation hooks won't make it into 2.5.2? > It looks bad for proxy gen. Charlie Groves is too busy right now to > get the java-integration branch in (a prereq for proxy gen hooks), and > he's the ideal person to do it. I thought about trying, but I'm > worried that it's late in the cycle for me to read the changes and get > them in without breaking 2.5.2. I will probably be the one to take on > the java-integration branch merge in 2.6, since 2.6 can take a bit > longer to finish and I'll have more time to safely pull it in. > > -Frank > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Jython-users mailing list > Jyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-users > |